And your too prideful to understand that God is outside time and could have taken years in our world to create the world then add us into it. He could have worked once a week sunday in week 1 Monday in week 2 ect ect.
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And your too prideful to understand that God is outside time and could have taken years in our world to create the world then add us into it. He could have worked once a week sunday in week 1 Monday in week 2 ect ect.
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Shiloah
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Hmmm, three days and three nights with 12 hours each and you can count from sunset Friday to sunrise Sunday and get 72 hours?
You don't make change at a cash register do you?
Ok so now God has hands? God the Father has not body only God the Son does. You 7th day Adventists don't eat meat or cheese ect when St.Paul tells us that Christ made all food clean.
You seem to just want to insult me and get irritated rather than teach me your truths that's because Truth is nothing to the Portestant community because they all have different opinions as to what Truth is. The Orthodox that's right Orthodox have the Truth and all agree on what it is why is that because it is ONE. There aren't different opinions or different path's to be saved there is also ONE way to be saved that is the way of Christ, of Love. Christ saved us by His Love, the 2 greatest commandment are Love God and Love thy neighbor therefore we are saved thro Love not Faith alone (you must have Faith in God to Love God) nor is it Works (although if you Love God you will do His will.
I hope you think about this. Because I want everyone to be saved but you cannot be saved through any other path other then the True/Correct Path. Many Protestants on the other hand only want to save themselves they wave signs saying "God Hates Fags" ect. How is that the way of Love God loves everyone infinitly It is impossible for God to Hate anyone, however He hates sin which translates from Greek To miss the mark.
Uh, how do you reckon that? Do you think the Latin (pretty sure that Latin was not the language used in that area at that time) term "Anno Domini" i.e. "the year of our Lord" was used the day Christ was born?
This term was first used...
Word Origin & History
A.D.
1570s, from L. Anno Domini "Year of the Lord." First put forth by Dionysius Exiguus in 527 or 533 C.E., but at first used only for Church business. Introduced in Italy in 7c., France (partially) in 8c. In England, first found in a charter of 680 C.E. Ordained for all ecclesiastical documents in England - from Dictionary.com
Now first off making jokes (i.e taunting "You don't make change at a cash register do you?") is a sign of over-confidence (i.e. pride) second your taking it literally on the third day of His death not at the end of the 3rd day not in three days ect ect. ON THE THIRD DAY.
This is a very telling statement. I think we can safely assume you do not believe the scripture is the final authority.
Same thought crossed my mind...
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
the good ole "Primacy of Peter" principle.
Latin was used in that area at the time the Romans ruled over that area. yes that term prob wasn't used at the time but it is what we use to commenerate Christ and make His incarnation the center point of history. CE take Christ out of history in favor of technology.
Scripture and Tradition go hand and hand. The bible talks of 2 traditions that of God [usually refered with "What we have spoken unto you or given to you orally] and that of man. Botha are necessary Tradition keeps new beliefs from popping up like in the RCC Papacy infalliblity and immaculate conception ect. Without Tradition what do we compare doctrines to the bible doesn't have all the scriptures. Protestants don't read all the scripture because first off Martin Lutehr "went to the source" and threw out anything he couldnt find in Hebrew and he used an anti-Christian version of Jewish writings that "updated them" because they didn't want Christians using their scriptures.
Actually the scripture shows it has to be exactly three days and three nights, not more, not less...
Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Mat 27:63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.
Mat 17:23 And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry.
Now there is only one period of time that will agree with all three of these verses. He had to be raised up IN three days according to John 2:19. He had to be raised up AFTER three days had elapsed (on the exact second will satisfy this) according to Mat 27:63 and He had to be raised ON the third day (just at the very end, again the last second). Plus, He said...
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
My seven year old grandson understood this but then he is just learning to count.
And they knew in 1 AD to begin calling it A.D.? And the common language was Aramaic.
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Shiloah
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What's this got to do with the sabbath commandment, what He told us to do?
Ok well I am assuming ur an 7th day advetist is that correct???
Because I know that they don't eat meat and cheese when St.Paul tell us that Christ made all food clean.
Well I would love to stay and show you protestents the way, but I have more important things to do then talk about the beliefs I have and the beliefs you have and we all get along because we all pray to the same God and all that ecumenist garbage. You protestants seem to only want to attack the RCC and nothing but. They are evil they are the source of evil they are demonic ect ect. Well The Orthodox Church came before them u know in the year AD 33 at Pentecost. Yet they still have liturgy and an organized church like you claim that Rome made up in the 300's or whatever. The early Lutherans contacted the Patriarch of Constantinople thinking the Orthodox would be theologically Lutehrn when as it turned out otherwise that even a 1500 year old church free from papal corruption had less in common with Protestants than did Rome. Rome Is closer to you than the Orthodox. Protestantism sprouted from Rome Luther Calvin Henry VIII were all Roman CAtholics befoe the reformation in fact all of western Europe was. Protestants and Romcan Catholics alike believe persecution of the Church is evil. When it is the blood of marytrs that helps the Church grow.Early persecution is Roman EMpire show it so does the Ottoman persecutions and the Soviet persecutions only the Orthodox Church has been persecuted its whole lifespan. All other "churches" or rather anti-churches have had long periods of no persecution at all. Protestants relly only have the early reformation as persecution when Roma wasn't goning down without a fight. But after that they really haven't been persecuted why? because Satan sees no need to persecute them because they already spread confusion thro out the world.
Because I know that they don't eat meat and cheese when St.Paul tell us that Christ made all food clean.
Well I would love to stay and show you protestents the way, but I have more important things to do then talk about the beliefs I have and the beliefs you have and we all get along because we all pray to the same God and all that ecumenist garbage. You protestants seem to only want to attack the RCC and nothing but. They are evil they are the source of evil they are demonic ect ect. Well The Orthodox Church came before them u know in the year AD 33 at Pentecost. Yet they still have liturgy and an organized church like you claim that Rome made up in the 300's or whatever. The early Lutherans contacted the Patriarch of Constantinople thinking the Orthodox would be theologically Lutehrn when as it turned out otherwise that even a 1500 year old church free from papal corruption had less in common with Protestants than did Rome. Rome Is closer to you than the Orthodox. Protestantism sprouted from Rome Luther Calvin Henry VIII were all Roman CAtholics befoe the reformation in fact all of western Europe was. Protestants and Romcan Catholics alike believe persecution of the Church is evil. When it is the blood of marytrs that helps the Church grow.Early persecution is Roman EMpire show it so does the Ottoman persecutions and the Soviet persecutions only the Orthodox Church has been persecuted its whole lifespan. All other "churches" or rather anti-churches have had long periods of no persecution at all. Protestants relly only have the early reformation as persecution when Roma wasn't goning down without a fight. But after that they really haven't been persecuted why? because Satan sees no need to persecute them because they already spread confusion thro out the world.
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Shiloah
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The traditions of man? What's the traditions of man have to do with God's Laws? Besides, we don't need to know zip about the traditions of men. We only need the word of God which through Christ tell us exactly what He wants from us. You obviously are entirely dependent on what others tell you, having virtually nothing to do with what Christ tells you through scriptures.
Your Avatar says Orthodox Catholic, hence, I assume you are Orthodox Catholic.
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Shiloah
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I am not a 7th day adventist. However, whatever reasoning is used by a 7th day adventist as based on scriptures is what you should address. You obviously know nothing about anything other than your traditions which you obviously value above God's word, which you obviously believe must be interpreted for you by someone else. That puts you in an impossibly vulnerable position. You cannot think for yourself. You are entirely brainwashed by those you call your church authorities, who are just mortal men, and therefore, highly fallible.
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Shiloah
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There has been no more horrendous example of persecuting followers of Christ than the Catholic church itself.
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danschance
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I don't hate Catholics. I don't bash the Catholic church either. In fact I almost joined RCIA several years back, but I could not get past the things I saw which are not in the bible. I saw kneel and bow before statues of men and pray to them. The bible never mentions that deceased saints in Heaven are omniscient (One would need to know what was being said all over the world to hear those prayers offered all over the world and know all the languages spoken in prayer to them.) or able to hear a single prayer.
I talked it over with Father Edward and he said I should go find a protestant church that I felt comfortable in and I did. I now consider the Catholic church in error on praying to the saints.
Why are you referring to Edward as "Father"??? What about the Lord's instruction:
"Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven." (Matthew 23:9)
Calling Catholics by the title "Father" only gives creedence to their positions. Observance of Sunday is a mandate of the Church of Rome. So,,in reality,,Sunday-keeping churches are Daughters of the their Mother church,,,,,The Church of Rome!
The Leaders of the Catholic church view Protestants as "estranged". Sunday observance will be the uniting point. And the family will be united under the mandate of Rome,,which is the institution and exaltation of Sunday.
Ok so you cant call anyone Father bc God's our only Father? Ok then I guess God contradicted Himself when He said Honor they Mother and Father. And if you cant call anyone Father but God then you cant call your own father father or daddy (bc abba is more correctly daddy or dad like papa ect) you cant call anyone a teacher bc Christ is our Teacher or Pastor or Minister bc Christ is the only One of those.
That's according to you Protestants; however in the Orthodox Church we know that God is our only Father but the priest as well as our biological father take their fatherhood from God. God gave the priest and our dads their authority, something you prots have to learn. There is no AUTHORITY in Protestantsim. The believer is all on his own in Protestantism there is no one to go to for guidance.
And for the last time everyone I AM NOT A ROMAN CATHOLIC. I am an ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN member of the ORTHODOX CHURCH. ROME borke away from that Church in the year 1054. You prots are only prepared to rebuke Catholics you cannot rebuke the Orthodox bc the Orthodox Church didn't take part in the Crusades or any "holy wars" it spent it whole life being persecuted by Jews, pagans,heretics, Roman Catholics, and even Protestants (such as in Nazi Germany, a Protestant nation Hitler was Catholic yes but the German people who backed him were Protestant). Orthodoxy is the only Church that has a right to exist.(You may not agree with this but you better agree with the next statement)
Truth is above error therefore Truth has more of a right to exist then error. Pagans have no right to worship the way they do bc that is Not the way God told us to worship. It is not hate it is just putting God before men.