WHY ARE PEOPLE WORSHIPING ON SUNDAY?

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josh123

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That is because this is more than a mindset. It is a religious spirit similar to what the pharisees had. The pharisees accused Jesus of breaking the sabbath, casting demons out of people by using demons and of blasphemy and each time they did this they felt they were doing God's will.
your absolutely correct... i actually heard a sermon about something similar like that the religious spirit vs the holy spirit did you know a spirit is a life, what i mean is look at a cancer for instant it is a demonic spirit it starts small and if you notice it early you might be able to get rid of it but if you choose not to acknowledge it it will build up into something big and hard to control and eventually eat away your own will and form a new life, it's the same thing as a religious spirit it starts small but over the years it keeps building up and up and making a huge barrier so it's hard to bring it down, that's exactly what is happening here and around the world in alot of churches also so when the truth is presence they cannot accept it because the religious spirit has full control of them, it's very sad to see though... the spirit is now manifesting in the flesh just like how the holy spirit manifested itself in the holy the outer appearance the fruit of the spirit is manifested in the flesh, so the religious spirit is also being manifested in the flesh
 
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that's even worst we suppose to be looking out for each other so we all end up in the right place.. and make sure we are doing the right thing to end up here... i'm trying to tell you to accept christ in your heart and let he live the life for u and me and your trying to tell me to be " religious " on a certain day and that is going save me... which one seems like the right thing to do.. and if you tell me that is the commandments we must keep their is tons of scriptures that prove it was the jews in the first place and the 10 commandment was abolished and god made a new covenant with the jews
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Sabbath keeping will not save anyone. Anyone who entertains the idea that salvation can be obtained through law keeping will make shipwreck of faith. No no, there is salvation for us but only through the merits of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Moreover, keeping the Sabbath is not a work. It is a rest. Nobody complains because he has to rest. The rest that is in the Sabbath day is not a mere physical rest from our physical labors. It is spiritual rest first and foremost. This physical rest from our physical labors to earn a living is a symbol of the spiritual rest that we have in Christ which causes us to cease from our own works in order to gain Heaven or God's approval.

"He that is entered into His rest has ceased from his own works as God did from His." Hebrews 4:11.

Notice that on the cross Jesus said, "It is finished." The sun was going down and the Sabbath was beginning. He rested in the tomb on the Sabbath day and rose on the morning of the first day of the week.

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josh123

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that's even worst we suppose to be looking out for each other so we all end up in the right place.. and make sure we are doing the right thing to end up here... i'm trying to tell you to accept christ in your heart and let he live the life for u and me and your trying to tell me to be " religious " on a certain day and that is going save me... which one seems like the right thing to do.. and if you tell me that is the commandments we must keep their is tons of scriptures that prove it was the jews in the first place and the 10 commandment was abolished and god made a new covenant with the jews
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Sabbath keeping will not save anyone. Anyone who entertains the idea that salvation can be obtained through law keeping will make shipwreck of faith. No no, there is salvation for us but only through the merits of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Moreover, keeping the Sabbath is not a work. It is a rest. Nobody complains because he has to rest. The rest that is in the Sabbath day is not a mere physical rest from our physical labors. It is spiritual rest first and foremost. This physical rest from our physical labors to earn a living is a symbol of the spiritual rest that we have in Christ which causes us to cease from our own works in order to gain Heaven or God's approval.

"He that is entered into His rest has ceased from his own works as God did from His." Hebrews 4:11.

Notice that on the cross Jesus said, "It is finished." The sun was going down and the Sabbath was beginning. He rested in the tomb on the Sabbath day and rose on the morning of the first day of the week.

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it is a spiritual rest not just a physical rest from work god doesn't get tired and since god died for all of us we receive ETERNAL rest when we accept him in our hearts that is why sabbath is made for man and not man for sabbath, sabbath means rest, the rest of christ jesus in us not just resting from physical labor that isn't gonna save us we must have eternal rest to be saved, honestly i don't have anything against taking a break and just relaxing from work on whatever day you want but when someone takes it religiously that's where the problem comes from
 
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Do you still not understand the book of Hebrews?

Heb 7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

Heb 9:1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
Heb 9:2 For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.
Heb 9:3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
Heb 9:4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
Heb 9:5 And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.
Heb 9:6 Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
Heb 9:7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
Heb 9:8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
Heb 9:9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Now these were the schoolmaster to lead us to Christ...

Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Hebrews explains this brief comment by Paul. Put ALL the scriptures together before drawing a conclusion.
Paul himself continued animal sacrifice and he understood the Book of Hebrews really well. Animal sacrifice is still required for those who keep Sabbath.

Acts 21:26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.
 

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Paul himself continued animal sacrifice and he understood the Book of Hebrews really well. Animal sacrifice is still required for those who keep Sabbath.

Acts 21:26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.
Well then, if Paul did it then should you?
 

john832

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Not at all I don't keep Sabbath or any Mosaic Law, so it's not for me, I'm a Pauline Christian.
Do what Paul did?

Act 13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.
Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

Act 16:12 And from thence to Philippi, which is the chief city of that part of Macedonia, and a colony: and we were in that city abiding certain days.
Act 16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.

Act 17:1 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews:
Act 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

Act 18:1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth;
Act 18:2 And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome:) and came unto them.
Act 18:3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers.
Act 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

In each case Paul was preaching to Gentiles in Gentile cities on the Sabbath.
 
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adventbeliever

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Not at all I don't keep Sabbath or any Mosaic Law, so it's not for me, I'm a Pauline Christian.

Praus
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The ten commandment law of which the fourth commandment
is at the very heart of, was first spoken by Christ
on Mount Sinai. Because the people were afraid of the Voice
of God at Sinai Christ wrote it with His own finger upon tablets
of stone. Even the ceremonial laws God gave to Moses cannot
be said to be "Mosaic" for God is the Author of both the moral
law and the ceremonial law.

The ceremonial law was abolished at the cross but the moral law
is eternal.

Praus, If you wish to imitate Paul you will pay respect to the fourth
commandment which is at the very heart of the moral law. Was it
not Paul who said, "Do we make the law void by faith? God forbid.
We establish the law." Rom.3:31.

Here he could only be referring to the ten commandments for he himself
knew that the ceremonial law had been abolished at the cross when
type met antitype.

The Sabbath of the fourth commandment was never a part of any
ceremonial law for it was instituted in Eden before the fall.

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freeman4

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There is none perfect but Jesus Christ. The keeping of the 10 commandments are kept by those who are of Christ, it is automatic if you are His, You do not Kill, You do not steel. But what about the SABBATH, 7TH.day. the same applies, if you are Christ's you will observe it and if not, you want. God did not set one day for some and then say, oh my, I forgot the other group and set aside another day for them, He just don't do things that way..
 
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People worship on Sunday because it is tradition. End of story. If there eas another reason it was madeup
 

john832

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John you could of fooled me.
There are over 500 different groups or organizations in the Sabbatarian world, the Seventh Day Adventists are but one. But then, most have not even looked into this subject.
 

john832

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There is none perfect but Jesus Christ. The keeping of the 10 commandments are kept by those who are of Christ, it is automatic if you are His, You do not Kill, You do not steel. But what about the SABBATH, 7TH.day. the same applies, if you are Christ's you will observe it and if not, you want. God did not set one day for some and then say, oh my, I forgot the other group and set aside another day for them, He just don't do things that way..
You make excellent points freeman4!
 
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Do what Paul did?

Act 13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down.
Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

Act 16:12 And from thence to Philippi, which is the chief city of that part of Macedonia, and a colony: and we were in that city abiding certain days.
Act 16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.

Act 17:1 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews:
Act 17:2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

Act 18:1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth;
Act 18:2 And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome:) and came unto them.
Act 18:3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers.
Act 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

In each case Paul was preaching to Gentiles in Gentile cities on the Sabbath.
Yes we preach every Sabbath, and every other day, that's exactly what Paul wrote in 2 Tim. Sabbath includes rest and animal sacrifice, Paul couldn't bothered as the Greco-Syrian (goy) author of Acts makes that clear.

2 Tim 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. (KJV)
 
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Not at all I don't keep Sabbath or any Mosaic Law, so it's not for me, I'm a Pauline Christian.

Praus
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The ten commandment law of which the fourth commandment
is at the very heart of, was first spoken by Christ
on Mount Sinai. Because the people were afraid of the Voice
of God at Sinai Christ wrote it with His own finger upon tablets
of stone. Even the ceremonial laws God gave to Moses cannot
be said to be "Mosaic" for God is the Author of both the moral
law and the ceremonial law.

The ceremonial law was abolished at the cross but the moral law
is eternal.

Praus, If you wish to imitate Paul you will pay respect to the fourth
commandment which is at the very heart of the moral law. Was it
not Paul who said, "Do we make the law void by faith? God forbid.
We establish the law." Rom.3:31.

Here he could only be referring to the ten commandments for he himself
knew that the ceremonial law had been abolished at the cross when
type met antitype.

The Sabbath of the fourth commandment was never a part of any
ceremonial law for it was instituted in Eden before the fall.

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adventbeliever,

I'm the direct descendant of 100 generations or more of Antiochian Christians who lived less than 10 miles from Tarsus, the birthplace of the Apostle Paul. Your post is an odious and racist attempt to steal my ethnic and religious heritage as well as that the of the Jewish people.
 

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its funny how sunday is the last day of the weekEND...so it the end of the week...also the amount of threads on this topic is ridiculous and stupid
 
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adventbeliever

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its funny how sunday is the last day of the weekEND...so it the end of the week

Nautilus
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Any calendar will tell you that Sunday is the first day of the week
and that Saturday is the seventh day of the week which God blessed as
the day of rest forever.

"And God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because that in it He
had rested from all His works which God created and made
." Gen.2:2,3.

"For You bless, O Lord, and it shall be blessed forever." 1 Chronicles 17:27.


When people get off work on friday afternoon, do they not say,

"Have a good week-end"?

This alone shows that friday is the last day of the week and saturday
is the day of rest, not Sunday.
 

zone

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tHe rested in the tomb on the Sabbath day and rose on the morning of the first day of the week.

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and BEHOLD He is Alive FOREVERMORE.

days; weeks; months; moons; why?

the Lord is eternal and those baptized into his death have also ceased from their works.
and have been raised into new and everlasting life.
 
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Laodicea

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and BEHOLD He is Alive FOREVERMORE.

days; weeks; months; moons; why?

the Lord is eternal and those baptized into his death have also ceased from their works.
and have been raised into new and everlasting life.
Romans 6:4 KJV
(4) Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
 

zone

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Romans 6:4 KJV
(4) Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
hi Lao:)
and your point is?
i know you are a soul sleep advocate.

but what did Jesus say?

John 5:24
"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.

did Jesus REALLY mean to say -

SDA SOULSLEEP 5:24
"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has to go into soul sleep for thousands of years but when they come out of their grave on the last day they will not be judged at that time they will cross over from death to life?

NO.:)
He never ever said anything like that.
 
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Laodicea

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hi Lao:)
and your point is?
i know you are a soul sleep advocate.

but what did Jesus say?

John 5:24
"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.

did Jesus REALLY mean to say -

SDA SOULSLEEP 5:24
"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has to go into soul sleep for thousands of years but when they come out of their grave on the last day they will not be judged at that time they will have crossed over from death to life?
No point I read your post and that was the first text that came to mind so I posted it