To Be Born Again Is To Be Resurrected!

[homwardbound]

Always remembering what you have posted here, we know sin finds its power in the law! But grace makes our sin null and void, the guilt of it is not held against any in Yeshua. If sin is still active after grace, and it is, it stands to reason following the Ten Commandments is very good. When we falter, we have grace. Blessed be the cleansing Blood of Yeshua, amen.

I know you are growing in the truth from God, and are learning much, and I am not by any means saying I am further along, for God has no respect of persons. I am only sharing what truth I have received that has set me free in him. Praying God shows you the picket fence line of flesh and Spirit of God that most are in and can't cross over because of flesh self effort in the way rather than deciding to die to self with Christ on the cross

 

[JaumeJ]

If my understanding is in error, I am innocent of any wrongdoing, however this teaching is direct from understanding of Paul's teaching from Romans.

As concerning my growing, all are growing in Yeshua. The work He began in us is ongoing until His great and glorious Day, for it is He Who perfects us, not we.

This may surprise some, though few, but some members of the Body of Yeshua are very advanced in their being perfected before leaving this age, while some have barely begun being perfected when they are taken from this age, both are made perfect on His Day. The last will be first and the first will be last, and it is ever so perfect, amen.

 

[SpiritofFire]

I think the key word there is "within". Its not around for us to look at quite yet

Do you think that this statement means that you have millions of buildings for us to live in inside us?

The kingdom is a state of mind. When we stop choosing death, it will be revealed to all.

 

[GOI]

The Bible is clear it s our spirit that was dead in tresspasses and sin that needs to be born again.

Where is it written so I can e clear on it?

 

[GOI]

To be a child of God, you need to be a direct creation by God. Adam and Eve were direct creations by
God as was Jesus in His Humanity. In Job, the angels are refered to as "sons of God" because they
too were direct creation of God. One needs to be "born again" and there God will make a direct
creation. The Bible says we are a new creation.

was Adam born of a woman
was Eve born of a woman

they were created

JOb was born of a woman

The angels were created like Adam an Eve

so I ask you how can the angels be born again
and can Adam and Eve be born again when they were without mother or father physically
did they come out of a mothers womb? I know you know the answer I just saying!

 

[JaumeJ]

If you are saying here we are children of Yahweh because we are directly created by Yahweh, you know we are when we are born again by the Holy Spirit. Keep in mind the term "pro-created" means reproduction but with Help............

was Adam born of a woman
was Eve born of a woman

they were created

JOb was born of a woman

The angels were created like Adam an Eve

so I ask you how can the angels be born again
and can Adam and Eve be born again when they were without mother or father physically
did they come out of a mothers womb? I know you know the answer I just saying!

 

[duewell]

mark 4 v11 And He was saying to them, “To you has been given the mystery of the kingdom of God, but those who are outside get everything in parables, 12 so that while seeing, they may see and not perceive, and while hearing, they may hear and not understand, otherwise they might return and be forgiven.

1 cor. 2 v 14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned

many is a word that only leaves you guessing, guessing bout a thing you really ought to know. you really ought to know

duewell
mark 4 v11-13
the rainbow connection

 

[homwardbound]

If my understanding is in error, I am innocent of any wrongdoing, however this teaching is direct from understanding of Paul's teaching from Romans.

As concerning my growing, all are growing in Yeshua. The work He began in us is ongoing until His great and glorious Day, for it is He Who perfects us, not we.

This may surprise some, though few, but some members of the Body of Yeshua are very advanced in their being perfected before leaving this age, while some have barely begun being perfected when they are taken from this age, both are made perfect on His Day. The last will be first and the first will be last, and it is ever so perfect, amen.

Thank You agreed 100%

 

[homwardbound]

Where is it written so I can e clear on it?

Genesis 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves coverings.

They after the eating from the tree were made aware of the flesh and knew they were naked. They from then on nad all those born after them were born of flesh Spirit, not god's Spirit.

Genesis 6:3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”
Ezekiel 11:19 Then I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within them, and take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh,

The above is where controversy starts, a flesh heart and a stony heart. A stony heart became them to till the ground and not maintain it.
To get back a heart of original flesh is what God is saying here, and this is done by God's Spirit coming to ive in us and through us
Ezekiel 36:26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.
Or better put a heart of Love, not the world's type God's type, shown in 1 cor. 13:4-13
Joel 2:28 [ God’s Spirit Poured Out ] “And it shall come to pass afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see visions.

The above has come to be after the cross, the resurrected Christ in the Spirit of God

Matthew 26:41 Watch and pray, lest you enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.”

So if one is born again of the Spirit of God and all are if believe God to do this through his Son at the cross, then we are controlled and listen to God's Spirit and are doers of the word of Love through the Spirit of God

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

When we all are first born we are born of the flesh period and when born again we are born of the Spirit of God that Adam and Eve lost. Christ is the second Adam and a life-giving Spirit. See that giving its free from God, if one will believe God
Love you GOI

 

[john832]

The entire context of John 3 is salvation wherein one is renewed and indwelt by the Holy Spirit. It baffles me how you and your buddies would insert the future resurrection into that passage.

What does it mean to be born of the Spirit? Let's examine other passages for scripture interprets scripture:
Eze 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

And...
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Tit 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Notice that Paul alluded to the same thing (born of the Spirit/the new birth). By faith the Spirit of God imparts life to the spiritually dead whereby they are set free from sin and enabled to walk in newness of life. To be born again means one has responded to the gospel of salvation, and is a partaker of the divine nature of Christ. If that happens at the resurrection then no one is currently saved. No one has eternal life right now, no one is sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise instead we are all still dead in sin!


In verse 8, Jesus compared the new birth (regeneration) by the Spirit of God to the wind. It is mysterious and unseen yet a gracious work of God.


I wrote this: "And salvation is a present possession...
John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life."

To which you responded with this and quoted 1 Cor 15:50-54:

Therefore I assume you are claiming that no one is saved until the resurrection?



Of course I am still flesh and blood. This corruptible body of mine have not been done away with, but spiritually speaking I am not flesh in that I am no longer walking after the flesh but in accordance with the Spirit of God by His grace.
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Are you after the flesh or the Spirit?

What baffles me is that you do not understand the resurrection...

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Shall be made is future tense. When does it occur?

1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

At His coming...

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

If you have flesh and blood, you cannot inherit the Kingdom. If you are flesh, you are flesh...

Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

A Christian has the Holy Spirit in them as a down payment, but not the inheritance...

Eph 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

The downpayment of our inheritance. Again, this is future tense looking forward to the future...

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

When do we become incorruptible? At the Last Trump, the return of Christ.

1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

Again, Paul is looking forward, this is future tense.

1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

When this has happened we will be as Christ says...

Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Born of the Spirit.

Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Now tell me, are you invisible? Do you move around without anyone knowing? Can you come and go without being seen?

If you answered yes to any of the above questions, I suggest you seek some counseling.

 

[homwardbound]

was Adam born of a woman
was Eve born of a woman

they were created

JOb was born of a woman

The angels were created like Adam an Eve

so I ask you how can the angels be born again
and can Adam and Eve be born again when they were without mother or father physically
did they come out of a mothers womb? I know you know the answer I just saying!

[h=3]1 Peter 3:18-20[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[h=3]Christ’s Suffering and Ours[/h][SUP]18 [/SUP]For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, [SUP]19 [/SUP]by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, [SUP]20 [/SUP]who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.

All those that believed were and are saved, this is the greatness of God whom is Merciful, if we will seek God's Mercy

 

[AlayaRose]

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Prophecy 1 Daniel 2:31-45​

Metal man with a Head of Gold, Chest of Silver, Thighs of Brass, Feet of Iron and Clay, Toes of Iron and Clay and The Rock that destroys the Metal man.
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Daniel
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[TD="width: 66"] 605 BC
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[TD="width: 348"] Head of Gold – Babylon
King Neb-u-chad-nez-zar is told his Kingdom of Babylon is the Head of Gold.
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[TD="width: 324"] [FONT=&quot]You, O king, are the king of kings. The God of Heaven has given you a kingdom and a throne. You have not achieved this preeminence according to personal prowess or talents. The God of Heaven has given you dominion, power, might and glory. He has placed mankind, the beasts of the field and the birds of the air under your control. Wherever they live, He has made you ruler over them all. Your kingdom is represented by the head of gold.[/FONT]
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[TD="width: 102"] 2:32,37,38
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[TD="width: 66"] P-1-B
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[TD="width: 66"] 538 BC
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[TD="width: 348"] Chest of Silver – Medo-Persia

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[TD="width: 324"] The Medo-Persian overtook the Babylon Empire
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[TD="width: 102"] 2:32,39
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[TD="width: 66"] 331 BC
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[TD="width: 348"] Thighs of Brass – Grecia

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[TD="width: 324"] The Grecian Empire overtook the Medo-Persian Empire. Known as the Bronze Age.
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[TD="width: 66"] 168 BC
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[TD="width: 324"] The Roman Empire overtook the Grecian Empire. Known as the Iron Age
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[TD="width: 102"] 2:33,40
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[TD="width: 324"] The nations that occupied Europe and Northern Africa overtook the Roman Empire. Currently there are 217 nations.
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[TD="width: 348"] Toes of Iron and Clay – Ten Kingdoms
Earths final Government. Lucifer will divide the world into ten sectors and appoint a king for each sector during the last year of the Great Tribulations. Approximately 297 days.
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[TD="width: 324"] [FONT=&quot]The Club of Rome had its beginnings in April of 1968, when leaders from ten different countries gathered in Rome. The organization claims to have the solutions for world peace and prosperity[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Club in Rome has been charged with the task of overseeing the regionalization and unification of the entire world. The Club’s findings and recommendations are published from time to time in special, highly confidential reports, which are sent to the power-elite to be implemented. On 17 September 1973 the Club released one such report, entitled Regionalized and Adaptive Model of the Global World System. The document reveals that the Club has divided the world into ten political economic regions, which it refers to as kingdoms.[/FONT]
Kingdom 1: Canada and the United states
Kingdom 2: European Union-Western Europe
Kingdom 3: Japan
Kingdom 4: Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Israel and Pacific Islands
Kingdom 5: Eastern Europe
Kingdom 6: Latin America, Mexico, Central and South America
Kingdom 7: North Africa and the Middle East
Kingdom 8: Central Africa
Kingdom 9: South and Southeast Asia
Kingdom 10: Central Asia

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[TD="width: 348"] Rock that destroys the metal man – Jesus
The God of Heaven shall set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to another people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
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[TD="width: 348"] A LION that stood on two feet like a man given the heart like a man rises from the sea. This lion becomes vain, arrogant and self-important like a man- only to be brought down by divine decree.
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[TD="width: 324"] [FONT=&quot]The first beast (Babylon) looked like a lion, but it had powerful wings like an eagle which allowed it to swiftly catch and devour its prey. As I watched, the lion’s wings were torn off and it could no longer fly and conquer its neighbors. The lion then focused on fortifying his kingdom. He paid no attention to warnings about arrogance and self-sufficiency. Over time, the lion became pompous and disgusting in God’s sight even though Nebuchadnezzar finally recognized the sovereign authority of the Most High God.[/FONT]
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[TD="width: 348"] A BEAR with three ribs in its mouth and one shoulder higher than the other.
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[TD="width: 324"] The Persian side of the Medo-Persian empire rose higher and dominated the Medo side. King Cyrus II invaded Babylonia in June of 539 BC and captured its capital, Babylon then devoured Libya, Egypt.
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[TD="width: 102"] Dan. 7: 5
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[TD="width: 348"] A LEOPARD with four heads rises from the sea.
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[TD="width: 324"] (King Alexander the Great 336 BC – 323 BC) Greece conquered the Persian empire in a mere ten years. He died at a very early age and his empire was divided among four generals.
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[TD="width: 348"] A MONSTER BEAST with ten horns rises from the sea.
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Luke 2:1
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[TD="width: 348"] A LITTLE HORN grows out of the Monster Beast; it uproots three of the original ten horns. (10+1-3=8 horns)
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[TD="width: 348"] THE LITTLE HORN POWER AND THE EXALTATION OF JESUS. The eighth horn dominates the remaining seven original horns, speaks boastfully and persecutes the saints for a time, times and half a time. (1260 years) At the end of the 1260 years, a meeting is called and conducted in Heaven. The thrones are arranged and the ancient of days (the Father) takes his seat and issues a restraining order against the Little Horn. Court is seated and the books are opened.
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[FONT=&quot]“The court was seated, and the books were opened.”[/FONT]
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[TD="width: 348"] LITTLE HORN RETURNS TO POWER and speaks boastfully. And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws:

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[TD="width: 324"] In 321 A.D. Constantine declared all Christian shall hold Sundays holy
[FONT=&quot]Stephen Keenan- A Doctrinal Catechism Third Edition "Question: Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept? "Answer: Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her-she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Catholic Press said, "Sunday is a Catholic institution, and its claims to observation can be defended only on Catholic principles . . . From beginning to end of Scripture there is not a single passage that warrants the transfer of week public worship from the last day of the week to the first."- CATHOLIC PRESS, (Sydney, Australia), Aug. 25, 1900.[/FONT]
The Vatican regained it church and state power when the Vatican became a Sovereign independent State in the world. The sovereign independent State of Vatican City was signed into existence July 1929 Signed by Premier Mussolini and Cardinal Gasparri.
[FONT=&quot]The Club of Rome had its beginnings in April of 1968, when leaders from ten different countries gathered in Rome. The organization claims to have the solutions for world peace and prosperity.[/FONT]
The UNITED RELIGIONS INITIVE was sign on June 26, 2000. This means the Vatican has become a One World Order Church and it has Global Moral Authority over all Christian organizations. All Christian Churches have membership with the Vatican.
[FONT=&quot]Sunday Sabbath keeping churches were given power to lobby law on march 7, 2006 by GW. Bush. United States President.[/FONT]
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[GOI]

To be born again requires not a change of mind not spirit but a change of heart. Often times it takes us to be at our lowest point to have this change of heart and be born again. it isn't an automatic full blown change of the heart but there is a spark in the change and it takes the ripple effect. day by day if we are born again our hearts become closer and closer to his own and eventually there is a connection made and we begin love others as he does and we see with a new pair of eyes.

This change happened to me after a while when I finally became a christian, and this connection of the hearts defines my faith because this connection is when the lord and I fell madly in love with each other. the speed of how this happens however depends on the person, for me it happened quite fast even though I am not sure why

The heart is the mind and the spirit those 3 are interchangeable! What you are talking about is what Jesus said here!
Matthew 13:[15] For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

 

[GOI]

It's pretty simple, We are born of corruptible seed, which is to say we belong to the family of Satan (Sin/rebellion) at birth. To be born again means to be taken out of this former family of Satan and placed into the family of God through faith by grace alone in the one sacrifice acceptable to God via the Son. By a genuine repentance and acceptance of this wonderful gift and by receiving Christ as our Lord and savior is by the means of which regeneration and salvation is obtained.

This is how I understand it.

Where is this written?
To be born of corruptible seed means we sin and we will die! A incorruptible seed cannot sin and cannot die!

lets head over to 1 Corinthians 15

1 Corinthians 15:42 KJV
[42] So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

 

[GOI]

Let me give you more on the Mystery of God hide in the O.T.. Study these passages ,not just one verse: Mk.4:11 ; Eph.1:9 3:3-4 6:19 ; Col.1:26 2:2 4:3 ;1Cor. 2:7 and all of ch.1 ; tie these all together with the theme of the whole Bible in Rom. 8:29-30 . The mystery of the O.T. is that, the elect of God are all saved the same way, "in Christ", eternally loved, eternally chosen, eternally called, eternally justified, eternally glorified, In Christ, salvation is a done deal! As good as done in the mind of God. The theme of the Bible is: God's eternal covenant of Grace. Therefore as we preach the Gospel we are garentteed success because God will save all His chosen children. and we must be careful to preach the whole message of 1.repent 2. trust and 3. obey Jesus, to the glory of God. Love to all. Hoffco

There is no mystery in bible what God wants us to know he revealed it to us! Or he will reveal it to us! A mystery is something we don't know! We know that born again means to be born over! It's actually very simple

 

[GOI]

Jesus made a very simple statement

John 3:1-3 KJV
[1] There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: [2] The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. [3] Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

MAN must be Born against to see God's kingdom
To be born again a man must be born of the spirit.
To be born again a man must be born of the water
To be born again a man cannot be flesh

[5] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

[6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

 

[GOI]

Nicodemus asked the best question about born again and no one considers what he said

John 3:4 KJV
[4] Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

Nico knew that we are born once into the man family via a woman

common sense tells us that to be born again means another birth must take place'

 

[GOI]

John 3:6 KJV
[6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.


We are born of the flesh so we are flesh
we are not born of the spirit so we are not spirit

When do we become spirit?

At the resurrection

 

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How is the dead raised

1 Corinthians 15:35 KJV
[35] But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

This is how we go from flesh to spirit

1 Corinthians 15:38-39,42,44 KJV
[38] But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. [39] All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. [42] So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: [44] It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.



At the resurrection

 

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We went from flesh to spirit at the resurrection!

It is a physical change