Re: "Women keep silent in the churches": Has that ceased or is it still for today?
This issue reminds my ex-wife and some discussions we had.
She used to say Paul was "machist". I don´t always agree on Paul´s and Peter HAD clearly said things on Paul´s writing. The thing is, as I said, we "leave" and "take" on the Bible.
Culture has mentioned certain things as "the essentials" of the biblical truth and I´m thinking THIS is bypassed.
I remember those days when I was unwilling to accept pastoral leadership of women, and some used the word "Pastor" to show Rachel was one of them (but of sheep) and in Judges there were women, as well Jezabel or her mother.
Just sharing ideas on what I remember...
I recently have visited places as sinagogues and lernt some things there... Culture and our secular present life will not back up that, but I´m sure this is NOT FAR from the original plan God thought.
"Let a WIFE learn in silence with entire submission. But I do not allow a WIFE to teach or have authority over HER HUSBAND; she must be silent. For Adam was created first, and then Eve.."
So isn't that even more extreme, and wouldn't it mean that the wife should learn in silence in the church as well instead of being the pastor and teacher over the husband and all the men?
So isn't that even more extreme, and wouldn't it mean that the wife should learn in silence in the church as well instead of being the pastor and teacher over the husband and all the men?
She used to say Paul was "machist". I don´t always agree on Paul´s and Peter HAD clearly said things on Paul´s writing. The thing is, as I said, we "leave" and "take" on the Bible.
Culture has mentioned certain things as "the essentials" of the biblical truth and I´m thinking THIS is bypassed.
I remember those days when I was unwilling to accept pastoral leadership of women, and some used the word "Pastor" to show Rachel was one of them (but of sheep) and in Judges there were women, as well Jezabel or her mother.
Just sharing ideas on what I remember...
I recently have visited places as sinagogues and lernt some things there... Culture and our secular present life will not back up that, but I´m sure this is NOT FAR from the original plan God thought.
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