Do Dinosaur Fossils Validate the "Old Earth" Theory?

[SweetSavour]

i never said dinosaurs were around billions of years ago...dishonesty on your part...strike one...

Hmmm...

dinosaur fossils do not prove that the earth is billions of years old...

Sorry, not being dishonest I just saw "dinosaur fossils" and "billions of years". Just making
sure you knew dinosaurs weren't that old.

you ask for sources advocating non uniformitarian geology from journals of uniformitarian geology...self contradictory demand on your part...strike two...

[video=youtube;txzOIGulUIQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txzOIGulUIQ[/video]

And for those of you that think the Grand Canyon is the result of a global flood why
doesn't the rest of the world.....look like the Grand Canyon?!?!?!

MIND=BLOWN

giganotosaurus and spinosaurus fossils are never found together...yet that hasn't stopped paleontologists from saying that they lived at the same time...hypocritical standard of proof on your part...

I didn't mean physically touching each other side by side. Dinosaur fossils are
found in the same sediment layer as other dinosaur fossils. We don't find human fossils
in the same sediment layer as dinosaurs. Do you know why? Because humans never
coexisted with dinosaurs! The last dinosaurs died out about 65 million years ago.
Therefore, the latest dino fossils are 65 million years deep in the ground (geologically
speaking). Get it?

And furthermore, I'm assuming you use a car, cell phone, computer, medicine
and other scientific inventions. You accept and rely on these things that the
scientific method has produced and proved to work. They work - all because
of science. So tell me why do you reject our current understanding of geology
and biology when it's all based on the same scientific principles as the other
stuff? That's very hypocritical of you, I'm afraid.

strike three...you're out!

I've already won the game, sweetie. You're just being a sore loser in denial.

 

[Bowman]

Generally relativity implies black holes, which proves young earth.

John 1:1 ¶ In the beginning ... 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.


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No, brother.

GR & SR proves that light has always traveled at the same speed - thus making the Universe Billions of years old.

 

[SweetSavour]

How I imagine Rachelbiblestudent to look like:
(Definitely not a blonde)
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...except she must have a larger head to allow room for a larger brain.

Timothy 2:12
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet."

Does this apply to nonbelievers as well? As a woman who plans on going into the educational
field, I really need to know.

 

[GreatisHisGlory]

The two most proven principles in physics (Special & General Relativity) demonstrate an old earth.

One geological feature on this earth, pretty much proves a young earth. From my calculations I would say around 9,000-10,000 years old. The geological, monumental I speak of is, Mt.Everest. Mt.Everest is 8,848 meters tall, and it grows at an rate of 4 millimeters a year. Its height pretty much validates an earth of about 9,000-10,000 years old.

 

[Bowman]

One geological feature on this earth, pretty much proves a young earth. From my calculations I would say around 9,000-10,000 years old. The geological, monumental I speak of is, Mt.Everest. Mt.Everest is 8,848 meters tall, and it grows at an rate of 4 millimeters a year. Its height pretty much validates an earth of about 9,000-10,000 years old.

Is this a new kind of math that you are using?

 

[CoooCaw]

the experimental evidence is that C has been decreasing and was magnitudes higher in the past

No, brother.

GR & SR proves that light has always traveled at the same speed - thus making the Universe Billions of years old.

 

[Bowman]

the experimental evidence is that C has been decreasing and was magnitudes higher in the past

Actually, not.

The speed of light has always been the same.

However, feel free to provide a link...

 

[ProphetExcalibur]

There's the two theories: Old and new Earth.

Don't dinosaur fossils pretty much prove and Old Earth?

Yes Radius I do believe it is one of the things that prove and Old Earth,

 

[CoooCaw]

how many would you like?

this is your blind faith being challenged here

Actually, not.

The speed of light has always been the same.

However, feel free to provide a link...

 

[CoooCaw]

the dinosaur fossils found prove a young earth, special creation, and a worldwide flood

Yes Radius I do believe it is one of the things that prove and Old Earth,

 

[posthuman]

GR & SR proves that light has always traveled at the same speed - thus making the Universe Billions of years old.

i think what you meant to say was that Relativity (and just about all of Cosmology) assumes that the speed of light in a vacuum (and every other fundamental constant) is invariant over all time.

 

[danschance]

Timothy 2:12
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet."

Does this apply to nonbelievers as well? As a woman who plans on going into the educational
field, I really need to know.

I think you should ask RachelBibleStudent as I love to watch her do circles around your posts. It's very entertaining.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Most curious is that YEC's even think that the earth looks old - even to them!

But...being YEC's, they must then invent the notion that God created then earth with the appearance of age so that what they plainly see with their eyes can then match their interpretation of scripture...

the earth only 'looks old' if you assume that everything always happened at current rates...the assumption of uniformitarianism...

 

[SweetSavour]

I think you should ask RachelBibleStudent as I love to watch her do circles around your posts. It's very entertaining.

I had the last word and put an end to the nonsense. Looking forward to any other replies though.
I thoroughly enjoy a good debate.

 

[CoooCaw]

Speed Of Light May Not Be Constant After All, Physicists Say

Basic Summary

Orbital Time vs. Atomic Time | Across the Fruited Plain

Leap second - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[4enlightment]

Hmmm...



Sorry, not being dishonest I just saw "dinosaur fossils" and "billions of years". Just making
sure you knew dinosaurs weren't that old.

(Response)
Remember the Colorado river runs through it and which they'd said it was once had reached the top of it. In the old testament had said that the earth was filled with streams, hills, and valleys before biblical scholars had reproof it and made it into what it says now. It didn't mention about mountains until after the flood.

Site:
Anti-Christian sceptics often denounce the Bible as teaching a faulty cosmology. One example is the assertion that the Hebrew word raqiya‘, or ‘firmament’ in the KJV, denotes a solid dome over the earth, so that the Bible is guilty of scientific error.
Is the Raqiya‘ (‘Firmament’) a Solid Dome? - Answers in Genesis

The earth crust was once surrounded around the earth and which it had a water layer that lies underneath the crust and water that were on top of it which we called it lakes and river and the source of the rivers was a spring (Geysers) that pushes water from beneath the crust to the surface to water the land on top of it. That is what the scriptures had meant to separate the water from the waters; the water on top and the waters beneath the firmament (the earth crust). The earth crust (the surface collapsed and everything submerge into the depth of the waters beneath the firmament and which causing the illusion from ground level that great springs that had sprung up and cover the earth with water, but actually the earth had suddenly sank into the abyss. The core of the earth started to expanded pushing ( Lot of underwater volcanoes activities were going on underneath the waters) the the collapsed firmament (Earth crust) to emerge to the surface. And which causing the earth to go through a baptism (Cleansing process). That is what I perceive when reading the scriptures. Firmament in the scriptures doesn't mean "Sky", but it means "solid earth crus



MIND=BLOWN

And furthermore, I'm assuming you use a car, cell phone, computer, medicine
and other scientific inventions. You accept and rely on these things that the
scientific method has produced and proved to work. They work - all because
of science. So tell me why do you reject our current understanding of geology
and biology when it's all based on the same scientific principles as the other
stuff? That's very hypocritical of you, I'm afraid.

Did you ever had thought why was satan was showing off to Jesus his new kingdoms that he has created to during God's absence.

Matthew 4:9“All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”

Matthew 21:40“Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?”


I've already won the game, sweetie. You're just being a sore loser in denial.

Did you? From your thoughts you think you had won, but didn't.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Hmmm...



Sorry, not being dishonest I just saw "dinosaur fossils" and "billions of years". Just making
sure you knew dinosaurs weren't that old.



[video=youtube;txzOIGulUIQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txzOIGulUIQ[/video]

And for those of you that think the Grand Canyon is the result of a global flood why
doesn't the rest of the world.....look like the Grand Canyon?!?!?!

MIND=BLOWN

I didn't mean physically touching each other side by side. Dinosaur fossils are
found in the same sediment layer as other dinosaur fossils. We don't find human fossils
in the same sediment layer as dinosaurs. Do you know why? Because humans never
coexisted with dinosaurs! The last dinosaurs died out about 65 million years ago.
Therefore, the latest dino fossils are 65 million years deep in the ground (geologically
speaking). Get it?

And furthermore, I'm assuming you use a car, cell phone, computer, medicine
and other scientific inventions. You accept and rely on these things that the
scientific method has produced and proved to work. They work - all because
of science. So tell me why do you reject our current understanding of geology
and biology when it's all based on the same scientific principles as the other
stuff? That's very hypocritical of you, I'm afraid.



I've already won the game, sweetie. You're just being a sore loser in denial.

your video clip commits a logical fallacy called the 'no true scotsman' fallacy...

"No true Scotsman is an informal fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion. When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim, rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original universal claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule."

No true Scotsman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

real science doesn't tolerate logical fallacies...

your argument about the grand canyon is also invalid...because anyone could just as easily ask...'if the grand canyon is the result of millions of years of erosion then why doesn't the rest of the world look like the grand canyon?'

next you say that you didn't mean what you said when you wrote this..."Again, still waiting on just ONE dinosaur bone to be found lying next to human bones."

this is a dishonest argumentation tactic called 'moving the goalposts'...when one demand has been met or shown to be invalid...you come up with a different demand...

Moving the goalposts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

in any case this new demand of yours is also invalid...basilosaurus fossils and coelacanth fossils have never been found in the same sediment layer...yet nobody doubts that the basilosaurus and the coelacanth lived at the same time...

and actually your argument in this case is another logical fallacy called the 'argument from ignorance'...the claim that if you haven't seen definitive proof of something then it must be false...however someone could just as easily say that it is true but that definitive evidence has not yet been discovered...

Argument from ignorance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

finally your last argument is a logical fallacy called equivocation...using sloppy semantics to lump completely different things together...

Equivocation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the fact is that my cell phone and computer don't run on uniformitarian geology...they run on the principles of electromagnetism...and there is nothing about electromagnetism that requires that uniformitarian geology be true...

 

[SweetSavour]

Did you? From your thoughts you think you had won, but didn't.

Reality is really not that bad.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Timothy 2:12
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet."

Does this apply to nonbelievers as well? As a woman who plans on going into the educational
field, I really need to know.

you should really learn some basic reasoning skills before you consider trying to teach anyone anything...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

I had the last word and put an end to the nonsense.

your post that consisted entirely of logical fallacies only added to the nonsense you had already posted...