Jerusalem is not Mystery Babylon the Great PERIOD!!!

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vic1980

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I hope folks here read this i trully do...

Praise God almighty, for his word and his holyspirit that speak truth.

There are none lead captive by the distruction of Mystery Babylon the Great period !!!

Jerusalem & her 1ST temple Jeremiah 52

The Temple and the City Burned

Now in the fifth month, in the tenth day of the month, which was the nineteenth year of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, came Nebuzaradan, captain of the guard, which served the king of Babylon, into Jerusalem, 13And burned the house of the LORD, and the king's house; and all the houses of Jerusalem, and all the houses of the great men, burned he with fire: 14And all the army of the Chaldeans, that were with the captain of the guard, brake down all the walls of Jerusalem round about. 15Then Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard carried away CAPTIVE certain of the poor of the people, and the residue of the people that remained in the city, and those that fell away, that fell to the King of Babylon,and the rest of the multitude.16But Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard left certain of the poor of the land for vinedressers and for husbandmen.

Summary

Nebuchadnezzar would lead his armies against Judah until they laid siege to Jerusalem for over a year, killing many people and destroying the Jewish temple, taking captive many thousands of Jews, and leaving Jerusalem in ruins.

Jerusalem & her 2 temple Luke 21

The Destruction of Jerusalem

20And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword , and shall be led CAPTIVE into all the nations : and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Summary:

In The Wars of the Jews, Book 6, Josephus notes that, on the eighth day of the of the Roman month Lous (Jewish month Ab), the ramps were finished and Titus ordered the battering-rams brought up and made ready for an assault on the Temple. With the battering-rams in place the Roman siege of Jerusalem, which began at Passover that year, would come to an end.

As soon as the walls were breached on the 9th of Ab in 70 A.D., a Roman military force of about 30,000 troops under the command of Titus marched into Jerusalem and began a systematic slaughter of the Jews and the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem—exactly as Jesus foretold 40 years earlier
The Romans brutally slaughtered an estimated 600,000 people in Jerusalem including many of the Passover visitors who had been trapped there for the 143 days during the Roman siege. Many of the people who were not killed by Roman soldiers were shipped off to the gladiatorial games, Roman mines, and otherwise exiled from Judea and scattered throughout the Roman empire and other nations.

Now Mystery Babylon the Great Revelation 18

Babylon is Fallen

1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4And I heard another voice from heaven,saying ,COME OUT OF HER , MY PEOPLE , that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remember her iniquities.6Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. 7How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. 8 Therefore shall her plagues COME IN ONE DAY, death, and mourning , and famine ; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Summary : There are none lead captive by the distruction of Mystery Babylon the Great period !!!

All that are in mystery babylon are destroyed ,not one lead away captive, i trully hope someone gets it.

God forgave Jerusalem for being a harlot , for chasing after Idols and turning to pagan worshiping , she had many Gods as she had towns Jeremiah 11:13, She played a harlot with egyptians, assyrians and others .As one can read it in Jeremiah & Isaiah God forgave her.

Isaiah 40

1Comfort ye, comfort ye my people , saith your God.

2Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned : for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins.

3The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

4Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:

5And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

We know this was John the baptise getting things prepared for the messiah, the temple had to be desolated due that it served its purpose, Our Lord went to the cross to draw all men to him, moses warned them of what was to come if they did not belive in that prophet.Jesus warned them what was to come. Mystery Babylon the Great ,is bigger than Jerusalem.

Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of ALL that were slain upon the earth.

thx for reading it ,Love you all & God bless you all, in Jesus mighty name :)

P.S.

Hebrew captive


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galah: to uncover, remove​
Original Word: גָּלָה
Part of Speech: Verb
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away into exile (2), banished (1), betray (1), captives (1), captivity (1), carried (1), carried and away (1), carried into exile (4), carried them into exile (3), carried them away into exile (2), carried them captive (1), carried away (14), carried away into exile (10), carried away to exile (1), carried away captive (1), carried...away into exile (4), carry them away as exiles (2), certainly go (3), certainly go into captivity (1), committed (1), depart (1), departed (3), deported (1), disappears (1), discloses (2), disclosing (1), exile (8), exiled (4), exiles (1), expose (2), exposed (3), go from you into exile (1), go into exile (6), go exiled (1), gone into exile (1), indeed reveal (1), inform* (1), known* (2), laid bare (3), lay bare (1), led him captive (1), led away (3), led away into exile (3), led...away into exile (2), lift (1), made (1), make (2), open (4), opened (1), opens (3), published (2), remove (1), removed (3), reported (1), reveal (5), reveal* (1), revealed (12), revealed* (2), revealing (1), reveals (4), revelation* (1), sent into exile (1), sent you into exile (2), set forth (1), shamelessly uncovers (1), show (1), strip off (1), stripped (1), taken (1), taken into exile (1), things revealed (1), uncover (22), uncovered (22), uncovers (1), went into exile (1).[/TD]
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Greek Captive

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aichmalótizó: to take or lead captive​
Original Word: αἰχμαλωτίζω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: aichmalótizó
Phonetic Spelling: (aheekh-mal-o-tid'-zo)
Short Definition: I take captive, subdue, ensnare
Definition: I take captive (in war); I subdue, ensnare.

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Word Origin
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captivate (1), led captive (1), making...a prisoner (1), taking...captive (1).

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STRONGS NT 163: αἰχμαλωτίζω

αἰχμαλωτίζω; 1 future passive αἰχμαλωτισθήσομαι;
a. equivalent to αἰχμάλωτον ποιῶ, which the earlier Greeks use.
b. to lead away captive: followed by εἰς with the accusative of place, Luke 21:24 (1 Macc. 10:33; Tobit 1:10). c. figuratively, to subjugate, bring under control: 2 Corinthians 10:5 (on which passage see νόημα, 2); τινα τίνι, Romans 7:23 (yet T Tr א etc. insert ἐν before the dative); to take captive one's mind, captivate: γυναικάρια, 2 Timothy 3:6 (not Rec.) (Judith 16:9 τό κάλλος αὐτῆς ᾐχμαλώτισε ψυχήν αὐτοῦ). The word is used also in the Sept., Diodorus, Josephus, Plutarch, Arrian, Heliodorus; cf. Lob. ad Phryn., p. 442; (Winer's Grammar, 91 (87); Ellicott on 2 Timothy, the passage cited).



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lead away captive, bring into captivity. From aichmalotos; to make captive -- lead away captive, bring into captivity.[/TD]
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cap·tive
ˈkaptiv/
noun
noun: captive; plural noun: captives




adjective
adjective: captive


  • 1.
    imprisoned or confined.
 
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vic1980

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Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven,saying ,COME OUT OF HER , MY PEOPLE , that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

It is quiet remarkable that many can miss such a important clue. So much written history we have on these events, of the destruction of Jerusalem her first & second temple, there where always prisoners captive taken from the land.

Here we can see clearly God Almighty aways, always, protects his people. "Come out of her my people" safe and sound.

Not as prisoners captive to other countries, as written in our historic records of Jerusalem and Her destruction. Mystery Babylon the Great and all her habitation of devils, and foul spirit (the wicked) will burn in fire, for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

I trully hope this will help clear things up on the mystery, God bless you all in Jesus mighty name :)
 

Katy-follower

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The missing color is blue :)


Rev 17:4: "The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls"

("The color for bishops and other prelates is purple, for cardinals scarlet... the prectoral cross should be made of gold and decorated with gems" (Our Sunday visitor's Catholic encyclopedia, 1991, pg 175,178,466)


Jerusalem does not fit. Why? There were 4 colors given by God, to be worn by the priests in Israel - gold, blue, purple and scarlet (Exodus 28). This color blue is not mentioned in Rev 17:4.

Numbers 15:37-40: Again the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the children of Israel: Tell them to make tassels on the corners of their garments throughout their generations, and to put a blue thread in the tassels of the corners. And you shall have the tassel, that you may look upon it and remember all the commandments of the Lord and do them, and that you may not follow the harlotry to which your own heart and your own eyes are inclined, and that you may remember and do all My commandments, and be holy for your God"[/QUOTE]
 

vic1980

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The missing color is blue :)


Rev 17:4: "The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls"

("The color for bishops and other prelates is purple, for cardinals scarlet... the prectoral cross should be made of gold and decorated with gems" (Our Sunday visitor's Catholic encyclopedia, 1991, pg 175,178,466)


Jerusalem does not fit. Why? There were 4 colors given by God, to be worn by the priests in Israel - gold, blue, purple and scarlet (Exodus 28). This color blue is not mentioned in Rev 17:4.

Numbers 15:37-40: Again the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the children of Israel: Tell them to make tassels on the corners of their garments throughout their generations, and to put a blue thread in the tassels of the corners. And you shall have the tassel, that you may look upon it and remember all the commandments of the Lord and do them, and that you may not follow the harlotry to which your own heart and your own eyes are inclined, and that you may remember and do all My commandments, and be holy for your God"
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This is great material that is true and not a lie, thank you Kate

I remember a great brother on here, in the chat room ,he use to teach and gave us a great in depth study on Exodus & Numbers on these very passage. I can't belive i miss this, thank you for reminding me and everyone :)

God Almighty is trully GREAT , God bless
 

vic1980

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Thank you Katy-Follower*

God bless
 

vic1980

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Proverbs 27:17 As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.
 

zone

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Jun 13, 2010
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I hope folks here read this i trully do...

Praise God almighty, for his word and his holyspirit that speak truth.

There are none lead captive by the distruction of Mystery Babylon the Great period !!!

Jerusalem & her 1ST temple Jeremiah 52

The Temple and the City Burned

Now in the fifth month, in the tenth day of the month, which was the nineteenth year of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, came Nebuzaradan, captain of the guard, which served the king of Babylon, into Jerusalem, 13And burned the house of the LORD, and the king's house; and all the houses of Jerusalem, and all the houses of the great men, burned he with fire: 14And all the army of the Chaldeans, that were with the captain of the guard, brake down all the walls of Jerusalem round about. 15Then Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard carried away CAPTIVE certain of the poor of the people, and the residue of the people that remained in the city, and those that fell away, that fell to the King of Babylon,and the rest of the multitude.16But Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard left certain of the poor of the land for vinedressers and for husbandmen.

Summary

Nebuchadnezzar would lead his armies against Judah until they laid siege to Jerusalem for over a year, killing many people and destroying the Jewish temple, taking captive many thousands of Jews, and leaving Jerusalem in ruins.

Jerusalem & her 2 temple Luke 21

The Destruction of Jerusalem

20And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword , and shall be led CAPTIVE into all the nations : and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Summary:

In The Wars of the Jews, Book 6, Josephus notes that, on the eighth day of the of the Roman month Lous (Jewish month Ab), the ramps were finished and Titus ordered the battering-rams brought up and made ready for an assault on the Temple. With the battering-rams in place the Roman siege of Jerusalem, which began at Passover that year, would come to an end.

As soon as the walls were breached on the 9th of Ab in 70 A.D., a Roman military force of about 30,000 troops under the command of Titus marched into Jerusalem and began a systematic slaughter of the Jews and the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem—exactly as Jesus foretold 40 years earlier
The Romans brutally slaughtered an estimated 600,000 people in Jerusalem including many of the Passover visitors who had been trapped there for the 143 days during the Roman siege. Many of the people who were not killed by Roman soldiers were shipped off to the gladiatorial games, Roman mines, and otherwise exiled from Judea and scattered throughout the Roman empire and other nations.

Now Mystery Babylon the Great Revelation 18

Babylon is Fallen

1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4And I heard another voice from heaven,saying ,COME OUT OF HER , MY PEOPLE , that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remember her iniquities.6Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. 7How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. 8 Therefore shall her plagues COME IN ONE DAY, death, and mourning , and famine ; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Summary : There are none lead captive by the distruction of Mystery Babylon the Great period !!!

All that are in mystery babylon are destroyed ,not one lead away captive, i trully hope someone gets it.

God forgave Jerusalem for being a harlot , for chasing after Idols and turning to pagan worshiping , she had many Gods as she had towns Jeremiah 11:13, She played a harlot with egyptians, assyrians and others .As one can read it in Jeremiah & Isaiah God forgave her.

Isaiah 40

1Comfort ye, comfort ye my people , saith your God.

2Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned : for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins.

3The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

4Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:

5And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

We know this was John the baptise getting things prepared for the messiah, the temple had to be desolated due that it served its purpose, Our Lord went to the cross to draw all men to him, moses warned them of what was to come if they did not belive in that prophet.Jesus warned them what was to come. Mystery Babylon the Great ,is bigger than Jerusalem.

Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of ALL that were slain upon the earth.

thx for reading it ,Love you all & God bless you all, in Jesus mighty name :)

P.S.

Hebrew captive


1540. galah​
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galah: to uncover, remove​
Original Word: גָּלָה
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: galah
Phonetic Spelling: (gaw-law')
Short Definition: uncover

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Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
to uncover, remove
NASB Translation
away into exile (2), banished (1), betray (1), captives (1), captivity (1), carried (1), carried and away (1), carried into exile (4), carried them into exile (3), carried them away into exile (2), carried them captive (1), carried away (14), carried away into exile (10), carried away to exile (1), carried away captive (1), carried...away into exile (4), carry them away as exiles (2), certainly go (3), certainly go into captivity (1), committed (1), depart (1), departed (3), deported (1), disappears (1), discloses (2), disclosing (1), exile (8), exiled (4), exiles (1), expose (2), exposed (3), go from you into exile (1), go into exile (6), go exiled (1), gone into exile (1), indeed reveal (1), inform* (1), known* (2), laid bare (3), lay bare (1), led him captive (1), led away (3), led away into exile (3), led...away into exile (2), lift (1), made (1), make (2), open (4), opened (1), opens (3), published (2), remove (1), removed (3), reported (1), reveal (5), reveal* (1), revealed (12), revealed* (2), revealing (1), reveals (4), revelation* (1), sent into exile (1), sent you into exile (2), set forth (1), shamelessly uncovers (1), show (1), strip off (1), stripped (1), taken (1), taken into exile (1), things revealed (1), uncover (22), uncovered (22), uncovers (1), went into exile (1).[/TD]
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Greek Captive

163. aichmalótizó​
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aichmalótizó: to take or lead captive​
Original Word: αἰχμαλωτίζω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: aichmalótizó
Phonetic Spelling: (aheekh-mal-o-tid'-zo)
Short Definition: I take captive, subdue, ensnare
Definition: I take captive (in war); I subdue, ensnare.

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Word Origin
from aichmalótos
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to take or lead captive
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captivate (1), led captive (1), making...a prisoner (1), taking...captive (1).

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STRONGS NT 163: αἰχμαλωτίζω

αἰχμαλωτίζω; 1 future passive αἰχμαλωτισθήσομαι;
a. equivalent to αἰχμάλωτον ποιῶ, which the earlier Greeks use.
b. to lead away captive: followed by εἰς with the accusative of place, Luke 21:24 (1 Macc. 10:33; Tobit 1:10). c. figuratively, to subjugate, bring under control: 2 Corinthians 10:5 (on which passage see νόημα, 2); τινα τίνι, Romans 7:23 (yet T Tr א etc. insert ἐν before the dative); to take captive one's mind, captivate: γυναικάρια, 2 Timothy 3:6 (not Rec.) (Judith 16:9 τό κάλλος αὐτῆς ᾐχμαλώτισε ψυχήν αὐτοῦ). The word is used also in the Sept., Diodorus, Josephus, Plutarch, Arrian, Heliodorus; cf. Lob. ad Phryn., p. 442; (Winer's Grammar, 91 (87); Ellicott on 2 Timothy, the passage cited).



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lead away captive, bring into captivity. From aichmalotos; to make captive -- lead away captive, bring into captivity.[/TD]
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cap·tive
ˈkaptiv/
noun
noun: captive; plural noun: captives




adjective
adjective: captive


  • 1.
    imprisoned or confined.

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...n-great-earthly-jerusalem-22.html#post1207433

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zone

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Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven,saying ,COME OUT OF HER , MY PEOPLE , that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

It is quiet remarkable that many can miss such a important clue. So much written history we have on these events, of the destruction of Jerusalem her first & second temple, there where always prisoners captive taken from the land.

Here we can see clearly God Almighty aways, always, protects his people. "Come out of her my people" safe and sound.

Not as prisoners captive to other countries, as written in our historic records of Jerusalem and Her destruction. Mystery Babylon the Great and all her habitation of devils, and foul spirit (the wicked) will burn in fire, for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

I trully hope this will help clear things up on the mystery, God bless you all in Jesus mighty name :)

Luke 21:20
20"But when you [<<<<<CHRISTIAN DISCIPLES - ELECT REMNANT JEWS WHO BELIEVED ON JESUS] see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then recognize that her desolation is near. 21"Then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains, and those who are in the midst of the city must leave, and those who are in the country must not enter the city........


....because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.


those who are in Judea must flee
those who are in the midst of the city must leave
those who are in the country must not enter the city


....because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.


COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE [ <<<<CHRISTIAN DISCIPLES - ELECT REMNANT JEWS WHO BELIEVED ON JESUS], that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.


....because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.

"Not as prisoners captive to other countries, as written in our historic records of Jerusalem and Her destruction." < addressed elsewhere.
find a way around that. i'll wait here.
 

zone

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#10
This is great material that is true and not a lie, thank you Kate

I remember a great brother on here, in the chat room ,he use to teach and gave us a great in depth study on Exodus & Numbers on these very passage. I can't belive i miss this, thank you for reminding me and everyone :)

God Almighty is trully GREAT , God bless
Vic, could you please use the rest of Scripture (i know the color blue is missing from a verse in Rev 17:)) to show The Great Harlot is the Vatican?

use the Bible.
thanks.
 
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Ariel82

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blue is associated with purity. the Great Harlot is anything but pure so why would she be clothed in blue?
 

vic1980

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God Judge , Jerusalem and her first temple captive taken away - yes

God Judge , Jerusalem and her second temple captive taken away - yes

God Judge , Mystery Babylon the Great captive taken away - none

If the punishment of Mystery babylon the great ,the mother of Harlots and the abomination of the earth, that fornificated with the kings of the earth. If her destruction are the same ,as the events when they destroy Jerusalem & the temple the first time around. Why does it not fit with what is written in rev 18 , the first and thee second have much similarities on these events , 70AD does not seem to fit the judgement of God by the context we have in the bible written in revelation 18 , clearly there are none taken away captive, not one !!! they are all killed period.

Revelation 18:8
Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

only his people are called out of her, there are none lead captive from the judgement God brought on Her Mystery Babylon the Great

captive=
a person who has been taken prisoner or an animal that has been confined.



Re-read Revelation 18 miss zone and God bless
 

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Luke 21:20
20"But when you [<<<<<CHRISTIAN DISCIPLES - ELECT REMNANT JEWS WHO BELIEVED ON JESUS] see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then recognize that her desolation is near. 21"Then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains, and those who are in the midst of the city must leave, and those who are in the country must not enter the city........


....because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.


those who are in Judea must flee
those who are in the midst of the city must leave
those who are in the country must not enter the city


....because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.


COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE [ <<<<CHRISTIAN DISCIPLES - ELECT REMNANT JEWS WHO BELIEVED ON JESUS], that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.


....because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.

"Not as prisoners captive to other countries, as written in our historic records of Jerusalem and Her destruction." < addressed elsewhere.
find a way around that. i'll wait here.
Ok i hope ,it simple.

Jerusalem & her 2 temple Luke 21

The Destruction of Jerusalem

20And when ye shall SEE Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword , and shall be led CAPTIVE into all the nations : and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled

SEE = perceive with the eyes; discern visually.

Revelation 18:4 And I HEARD another VOICE FROM HEAVEN,saying ,COME OUT OF HER , MY PEOPLE , that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Heard = perceive with the ear the sound made by (someone or something).

God bless
 

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Yes there where unbeliving Jews that where captive by rome soldiers, and sent to gladiator games and such forth, after the events Destruction of Jerusalem & Her Temple in 70 Ad. We agree with this. But here lies the problem of trying to connect 70Ad with Mystery Babylon the Great Revelation 18 clearly tells the reader there are none taken captive from her they all are killed in her. Only God people come out of her, my post cleary expain this miss zone.

captive= a person who has been taken prisoner or an animal that has been confined.

If you have anything on revelation 17,18,19 that says her habitation of devils, and foul spirit (the wicked) (thee unbeliving) where captive from Mystery Babylon the Great mother of Harlot , i will submit that i am wrong.

God bless and have a wonderful day :)
 

vic1980

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....because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.



find a way around that. i'll wait here.
There plenty in the Bible that is written, but not all of it is fullfilled, can i have clarification of these being fullfilled thx sister zone.

Revelation 19 - Rejoicing in Heaven , The Marriage of the Lamb , The Rider on the White Horse , Defeat of the Beast and False Prophet

Revelation 20 - Satan Bound the Thousand Years , Satan Cast into the Lake of Fire , The Final Judgment.

you pull this verse out , so i guess all thing which are written be fulfilled hmm...

because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.

Seriously all things, which are written, all of it, this fulfilled ???

cool God bless , be back in 7 days to check this thread

God bless you all in Jesus mighty name amen :)
 

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Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven,saying ,COME OUT OF HER , MY PEOPLE , that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

It is quiet remarkable that many can miss such a important clue. So much written history we have on these events, of the destruction of Jerusalem her first & second temple, there where always prisoners captive taken from the land.

Here we can see clearly God Almighty aways, always, protects his people. "Come out of her my people" safe and sound.

Not as prisoners captive to other countries, as written in our historic records of Jerusalem and Her destruction. Mystery Babylon the Great and all her habitation of devils, and foul spirit (the wicked) will burn in fire, for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

I trully hope this will help clear things up on the mystery, God bless you all in Jesus mighty name :)
to the OP, What happened to those who COME OUT OF HER / WILL COME OUT OF HER?
 

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Miss zone

7 Days are Determined Between you, and The Word Of Jesus Christ in the Book of Revelation
7 Days to prove that her habitation of devils, and foul spirit (thee wicked thee unbeliving), Where taken captive, out of Mystery Babylon the Great into the Nations.

When thee 7 Days have expired, Submit to God Almighty of your error and repent, For God has proven his WORD is TRUE and NOT a LIE.

let God be true, but every man a liar

God bless
 
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people think the most confident and witty namecalling wins the debate.
but i think it takes more than that. :cool:
 
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here is another scripture that rules out first century jerusalem...

revelation 18:15-18..."The merchants of these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, she who was clothed in fine linen and purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls; for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!' And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and as many as make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What city is like the great city?'"

it took -much- longer than an hour for the romans to destroy jerusalem...the siege lasted for several months...and even after the romans broke through the city wall the battles still lasted for weeks more before the temple was destroyed and the city was fully captured...
 

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Mystery Babylon is NOT Jerusalem.

It is the wicked Roman Catholic church, the Papacy and Vatican.



17 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. - Revelation 17:1-12 (King James Bible)



Mystery Babylon is symbolically called a woman.


Consider that this city reigns over the kings of the earth. Vatican city rules over the kings of the earth. Roman Catholicism, Vatican city is the only one that lines up with all the descriptions that are listed in Revelation 17.


The presidents and leaders from the many different countries all over the world go and bow before the pope and kiss his ring. Why is that? Because the Vatican rules over the kings of the earth, that's why.


It is Vatican city that has purple and scarlet as their offical colors.


Jerusalem has blue and white as their colors.


And notice that Mystery Babylon is drunken with the blood of the saints, and the blood of the marytrs of the Lord Jesus Christ.


Now if you have ever studied church history, what was the greatest satanic force used by Satan against Christians down through the centuries?


It was the Papacy. The Roman Catholic church.


So again; Jerusalem is NOT Mystery babylon.

And America is NOT Mystery Babylon either.

Mystery Babylon is clearly Vatican city. It is the Papacy and the Roman Catholic church.


Mystery Babylon

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