What Laws are still valid to christians
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Through faith by grace, we are righteous as regards our standing before God,
because of the gift of righteousness (Ro 5:17) from God (Ro 1:17, 3:21) to all those who are in Christ.
However, our character is not perfectly righteous.
That is the progessive work of the Holy Spirit in sanctification through obedience to the NT revelation.
So the answer to your question is: both righteous and imperfect.
because of the gift of righteousness (Ro 5:17) from God (Ro 1:17, 3:21) to all those who are in Christ.
However, our character is not perfectly righteous.
That is the progessive work of the Holy Spirit in sanctification through obedience to the NT revelation.
So the answer to your question is: both righteous and imperfect.
Yet it still does not say to ask for more forgiveness from God. God's payment for sin is blood period and without blood
Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Hebrews 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
no more offering is no more forgiveness for sin from God, it is finished by Son, done, completed, by Father through Son a gift to all that will appreciate and not take advantage as many do.
John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Colossians 1:22
in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
So consider by the death of Christ you are dead in the flesh and by his resurrection you are made alive in God the Father
And yes John writes to us to not sin anymore and not of self ever, of Christ living Christ's life that he lived through you, but if we do sin we have: and this is not to be taken fro granted, rather appreciated.
1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
It does not say to ask for further forgiveness, it says Christ is our fail safe (advocate) that if we do sin, we have Jesus as our advocate, our mediator, that we are forgiven so we can approach the throne of grace in confidence and learn from Father how to walk in the new life he gave us, whom by Christ sees no sin in the ones that believe, thanks be to Christ
We now can instead of trying to get more forgiveness can now say thank you for being forgiven and ask how to say no to unrighteousness and The teaching begins. ( Hebrews 8)
Praying you see this yourself and walk away from those sins that you hate, that you have been asking for him to get rid of and just can't. God will show you if believe God to have past tense taken away all sin in you by Son Jesus Christ at the cross
God loves you and all that deep
Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Hebrews 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
no more offering is no more forgiveness for sin from God, it is finished by Son, done, completed, by Father through Son a gift to all that will appreciate and not take advantage as many do.
John 19:30
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Colossians 1:22
in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
So consider by the death of Christ you are dead in the flesh and by his resurrection you are made alive in God the Father
And yes John writes to us to not sin anymore and not of self ever, of Christ living Christ's life that he lived through you, but if we do sin we have: and this is not to be taken fro granted, rather appreciated.
1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
It does not say to ask for further forgiveness, it says Christ is our fail safe (advocate) that if we do sin, we have Jesus as our advocate, our mediator, that we are forgiven so we can approach the throne of grace in confidence and learn from Father how to walk in the new life he gave us, whom by Christ sees no sin in the ones that believe, thanks be to Christ
We now can instead of trying to get more forgiveness can now say thank you for being forgiven and ask how to say no to unrighteousness and The teaching begins. ( Hebrews 8)
Praying you see this yourself and walk away from those sins that you hate, that you have been asking for him to get rid of and just can't. God will show you if believe God to have past tense taken away all sin in you by Son Jesus Christ at the cross
God loves you and all that deep
- Romans 5:8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
- Romans 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
- 2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
Hebrews 2:3 how shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
Can we imagine a hanger for a moment...
I think this was the point of what Christ said. The law "hangs" on the two commandments he gave. Christ's commandments don't replace the law. Like a hanger "holds up" and "supports" the clothes draped around it, loving the Father with every fiber of one's being, and loving your neighbor as if that neighbor was you, "holds up" and "supports" the Father's law and the words of the prophets. It's the "frame" by which the "suit" can maintain it's shape and not be wrinkled or damaged.
But in my analogy; if the law is likened to a suit and Christ's commandments likened to a hanger, would it make sense for the hanger to *replace* the suit? Without the clothes, what does the hanger hold up? Likewise, without the law what do Christ's commandments support? Again, without hangers clothes couldn't maintain their *proper form*...and without Christ's commandments the law can not be *properly fulfilled*.
You see the danger in not understanding this relationship is - and I by no means am accusing anyone here of this (including you Elin, I'm just making reference to your post) - if Christ's commandments do not "hold up" the law but replace it, it becomes acceptable for anyone to define their *own* version of "love" for the Father...because then the next logical question is "ok, *how* do I love the Father with all of my heart, soul, mind and strength?" And what I've often seen by many professed believers in my short time alive is they often superimpose the world's definition of "love" onto the Father, where "love" is merely an emotional feeling; a feel good moment whenever one "thinks about" the person or does something they "feel" that person would like or wouldn't mind, saying "oh what's wrong with me worshiping the Father *this* way? I can't see God having a problem with this."
It's a slippery slope that has led to multiple denominations, multiple religions, and even to "do what thou wilt" (the commandment of satanism).
Again, I'm not accusing anyone here...but there MUST - by necessity - be a immutable, eternal standard by which to love our Father, the Most High Yah...and Christ's commandments make conforming to that standard MUCH easier. "For my yolk is easy and my burden is light." (Matthew 11:30).
I think this was the point of what Christ said. The law "hangs" on the two commandments he gave. Christ's commandments don't replace the law. Like a hanger "holds up" and "supports" the clothes draped around it, loving the Father with every fiber of one's being, and loving your neighbor as if that neighbor was you, "holds up" and "supports" the Father's law and the words of the prophets. It's the "frame" by which the "suit" can maintain it's shape and not be wrinkled or damaged.
But in my analogy; if the law is likened to a suit and Christ's commandments likened to a hanger, would it make sense for the hanger to *replace* the suit? Without the clothes, what does the hanger hold up? Likewise, without the law what do Christ's commandments support? Again, without hangers clothes couldn't maintain their *proper form*...and without Christ's commandments the law can not be *properly fulfilled*.
You see the danger in not understanding this relationship is - and I by no means am accusing anyone here of this (including you Elin, I'm just making reference to your post) - if Christ's commandments do not "hold up" the law but replace it, it becomes acceptable for anyone to define their *own* version of "love" for the Father...because then the next logical question is "ok, *how* do I love the Father with all of my heart, soul, mind and strength?" And what I've often seen by many professed believers in my short time alive is they often superimpose the world's definition of "love" onto the Father, where "love" is merely an emotional feeling; a feel good moment whenever one "thinks about" the person or does something they "feel" that person would like or wouldn't mind, saying "oh what's wrong with me worshiping the Father *this* way? I can't see God having a problem with this."
It's a slippery slope that has led to multiple denominations, multiple religions, and even to "do what thou wilt" (the commandment of satanism).
Again, I'm not accusing anyone here...but there MUST - by necessity - be a immutable, eternal standard by which to love our Father, the Most High Yah...and Christ's commandments make conforming to that standard MUCH easier. "For my yolk is easy and my burden is light." (Matthew 11:30).
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90 pages on and closing in on 2000 posts and still we have no definitive list to the OP'S question.......I myself am confused over what laws are still valid, a question that in all of the posts that I'm aware of do not answer exactly what commandments was Jesus speaking about when He speaks about His commandments?
I think you have misread these others posts to your own interpretation and are afraid of being under Law as a curse. When we are not under we now uphold the Law as truth and perfect, and so we go to God to be alive and dead to the weak flesh that could not obey the laws of Love, and now can when one sees themselves as dead to their flesh with Christ as Paul so well said in Phil 3:1-11
so sister do we then make void the Laws of Love or see that no flesh can do these?
Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
so sister do we then make void the Laws of Love or see that no flesh can do these?
Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
to me its clear here
Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
Mattithyah 5:18 "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
I take Yahshua's words at face value.
Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
Mattithyah 5:18 "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
I take Yahshua's words at face value.
So I wonder then which of those ten virgins shall we be like, the five that are filled, born again in the Spirit of God doing as God wants, not as man demands?
or of self effort seeing themselves as not yet filled enough, working in accordance with their own self flesh that can never please God.
Thanks