What Laws are still valid to christians

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Josh321

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How are we to live righteously?
through the holy spirit, the holy spirit enables us to live according to God because the holy spirit is God, i explained what this look like in person, example look at someone with a jealous spirit the flesh will manifest the atributes of that spirit look at someone with a demon possessed spirit the flesh will manifest the fruits of that spirit, look at the HOLY SPIRIT THE FLESH WILL MANIFEST THE FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT automatically this is what you all fail to realize
 
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Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

The law speaks of continued obedience and obedience in all things. There is no provision for "trying to keep the commands of the Law". Either you keep it all continually, or you are under its "curse".

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Since the Law is not just the 10 commandments, but an indivisible unit (moral, civil and ceremonial) of 613 commandments, failing to keep it all makes you "guilty of breaking it all".

The more you try to keep the commands of the Law, the more it will keep you in its bondage and curse. The Law can only condemn you, it can never justify you or make you righteous.
 
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How are we to live righteously?
Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Galatians 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Galatians 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
 

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through the holy spirit, the holy spirit enables us to live according to God because the holy spirit is God, i explained what this look like in person, example look at someone with a jealous spirit the flesh will manifest the atributes of that spirit look at someone with a demon possessed spirit the flesh will manifest the fruits of that spirit, look at the HOLY SPIRIT THE FLESH WILL MANIFEST THE FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT automatically this is what you all fail to realize
that is the spirit of the law right there, the manifestation of the righteous of the law revealed through the flesh from the holy spirit, oh how i wish you can experience that to know what i am talking about..
 

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Did GOD the father command us (through the apostles) to listen to Moses, or to listen to Christ?

[Christ] was transfigured before them, and his face shone like the sun, and his clothing became bright as the light. And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with him. So Peter answered and said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good that we are here! If you want, I will make here three shelters, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah.” While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and behold, a voice from the cloud said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased. Listen to him!” Matthew 17:2-5​
To listen to Jesus, who told us to follow the Law. And the Law that He (Jesus) gave to Moses.
 

KohenMatt

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This is the love of GOD: that we keep his commandments.

What are his commandments? That we believe into the name of Christ, and love one another.

How do we love one another? Do to others as you would have them do to you. In other words, don't do things to them that you wouldn't want them doing to you.
Is believing in Jesus a purely mental and emotional excercise, or do we physically reveal it in anyway?
 

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through the holy spirit, the holy spirit enables us to live according to God because the holy spirit is God, i explained what this look like in person, example look at someone with a jealous spirit the flesh will manifest the atributes of that spirit look at someone with a demon possessed spirit the flesh will manifest the fruits of that spirit, look at the HOLY SPIRIT THE FLESH WILL MANIFEST THE FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT automatically this is what you all fail to realize
How does the Holy Spirit call us to live practically?
 

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To listen to Jesus, who told us to follow the Law. And the Law that He (Jesus) gave to Moses.
i wish you the best matt you just choose to never understand what anyone is trying to tell you, so stubborn..[h=3]1 Samuel 15:23[/h]King James Version (KJV)

23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.
 

KohenMatt

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that is the spirit of the law right there, the manifestation of the righteous of the law revealed through the flesh from the holy spirit, oh how i wish you can experience that to know what i am talking about..
What does the manifestation of the righteous through the flesh look like practically?

And believe me, I experience it all the time.
 
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Is believing in Jesus a purely mental and emotional excercise, or do we physically reveal it in anyway?
It's neither 'mental' or 'physical'....it's 'spiritual'.
The mind and body follow.....
- - Not in the ordinances that were nailed to a tree. But in salvation of the soul to a new man.
 

KohenMatt

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i wish you the best matt you just choose to never understand what anyone is trying to tell you, so stubborn..1 Samuel 15:23

King James Version (KJV)

23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.
Did Jesus tell His disciples to follow the Law?
 

Josh321

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What does the manifestation of the righteous through the flesh look like practically?

And believe me, I experience it all the time.
it manfiest as you dying to the world, and a " sensation" isn't born again, when you truly die to world you have been born again many people experience sensations, talk in tongues run up and down the church and think they receive the holy spirit but only when you die to the world and you recognise God working in your life you know you have been born again, you will also speak in a different tone of voice ( new tongue ) filthiness will never come from your mouth again
 

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The flesh only acts out what fruits our spirit have
 

KohenMatt

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since you choose to not understand what i am trying to tell you, i will just forget about it and not say anything anymore
I'm just looking for a practical example of how the Spirit causes you to live in a real and physical way. How do you show God that you love Him? How do you show your neighbor that you love him so that he knows it?
 
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You just cnt convince some people of all the work Jesus did for us , there's not enough time in the world to make someone who bases the whole lifetime of service to god in the law, compared to the freedom and grace that our lord has achieved on our behalf, but if we cnt then at least we can say we tried bt some will never see the freedom he has bought for us thank you lord Jesus.amen
 
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Very true. 100% true. So what does it look like when the mind and body follow the spiritual?
Love. Total love for your neighbor, for those that treat you with spite.
- - This, I am still working on....because I am sold into sin, but I know that I am, and the Holy Spirit convicts me of my mistakes....(which are like billboards to my conscience).
Brother, we'd all go crazy without the love of Christ Jesus. - (and the Comforter He provided)
 
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KohenMatt

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You just cnt convince some people of all the work Jesus did for us , there's not enough time in the world to make someone who bases the whole lifetime of service to god in the law, compared to the freedom and grace that our lord has achieved on our behalf, but if we cnt then at least we can say we tried bt some will never see the freedom he has bought for us thank you lord Jesus.amen
Hopefully, you're not referring to me, Welsh.