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Elizabeth619

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I think people should understand leviticak law before throwing out passages. Before you start saying tattoos are a sin you better make sure you're not breaking levitical laws yourself. Does anyone here eat shrimp? Catfish? According to levitical law it's a sin if ya do.
 

gb9

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I said the same thing about blended fabrics and got no real answers. people love to pick and chose which parts of the Bible to keep with out learning to use the whole Word.
 

Nautilus

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these are always goo threads for identifying the legalists. its helps to see whose opinion is meaningless.
 

Elizabeth619

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I know. Happens a lot. They'll have to answer for that in the end.
 

Hizikyah

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THEY ARE FORBIDDEN!

Leviticus 19:28, "You shall not cut your bodies for the dead, nor put tattoo marks upon yourselves. I am Yahweh."

Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your hneighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
I think people should understand leviticak law before throwing out passages. Before you start saying tattoos are a sin you better make sure you're not breaking levitical laws yourself. Does anyone here eat shrimp? Catfish? According to levitical law it's a sin if ya do.
No I dont eat any of that stuff, it all has parasites... very unhealthy

Deut 6:16, "You must not tempt Yahweh your Father..."

Only in Babylon and the children of Babylon is the Law "done away"

Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"

Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, hhe will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

Mattithyah 7:21, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."

iniquity is:

#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness

1 Yahchanan 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."

Yahchanan 5:14, "Afterward, Yahshua found him in the sacred precincts and said to him: Behold, you are healed. Sin no more, or a worse thing will come upon you."

Yahshua did not die to set us free from the Father, nor did He die to allow us to sin and say its ok, He Sacrificed Himself so we might be forgiven and turn to Yahweh and walk in His ways!

HalleluYAHWEH!
 

Elizabeth619

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No I dont eat any of that stuff, it all has parasites... very unhealthy

Deut 6:16, "You must not tempt Yahweh your Father..."

Only in Babylon and the children of Babylon is the Law "done away"

Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"

Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, hhe will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

Mattithyah 7:21, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."

iniquity is:

#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness

1 Yahchanan 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."

Yahchanan 5:14, "Afterward, Yahshua found him in the sacred precincts and said to him: Behold, you are healed. Sin no more, or a worse thing will come upon you."

Yahshua did not die to set us free from the Father, nor did He die to allow us to sin and say its ok, He Sacrificed Himself so we might be forgiven and turn to Yahweh and walk in His ways!

HalleluYAHWEH!
If you follow the bible exact then I assume you kill anyone who is of a different religion then, right?
Psychics and mediums should be stoned to death too.
 

john832

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I think people should understand leviticak law before throwing out passages. Before you start saying tattoos are a sin you better make sure you're not breaking levitical laws yourself. Does anyone here eat shrimp? Catfish? According to levitical law it's a sin if ya do.
Nope, I don't eat that stuff. I eat a clean diet. The Designer and Creator of the human body knows what is appropriate fuel for it. I trust what He says about what to put into it.
 

Elizabeth619

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Nope, I don't eat that stuff. I eat a clean diet. The Designer and Creator of the human body knows what is appropriate fuel for it. I trust what He says about what to put into it.
Ever read about Peter's vision?
 

Elizabeth619

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Acts 10
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reject-tech

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I imagine that the tattoos and the desire for them will be gone when we are resurrected.
So in my opinion, why bother?
 
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overcomer2

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I don't believe you should get tattoo. Don't pierce your body or put markings on it. It may be an old law but I'm wise enough to know its a good law. The Lord had so much to say about disease and cleanliness.

An alarming research study recently published by Dr. Bob Haley and Dr. Paul Fischer at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical School in Dallas uncovered that the "innocent" commercial tattoo may be the number one distributor of hepatitis C. The study was published in the journal Medicine (Haley RW, Fischer RP, Commercial tattooing as a potentially source of hepatitis C infection, Medicine, March 2000;80:134-151). Dr. Haley, a preventative medicine specialist and a former Center for Disease Control (CDC) infection control official, is exceptionally knowledgeable to prepare the study.
Dr. Haley concludes, "We found that commercially acquired tattoos accounted for more than twice as many hepatitis C infections as injection-drug use. This means it may have been the largest single contributor to the nationwide epidemic of this form of hepatitis."

The list is long I only shortened it to make my point.
2 Corinthians 7:1
Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
 

john832

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If you follow the bible exact then I assume you kill anyone who is of a different religion then, right?
Psychics and mediums should be stoned to death too.
We don't have to stone 'em, God will take care of that...

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Concerning the Laws and applying them, what about the ceremonial Laws? Why not do them today? One cannot. There has to be a Tabernacle oor Temple in existence (there is not) and there has to be a Levitical Priesthood in existence (there is not). The Priesthood has been changed and the Laws concerning the Priesthood are changed. Here is the famous passage used out of context 99% of the time, in context...

Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

What about certain civil Laws? Were the Israelites a bunch of vigilantes?

Lev 6:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 6:2 If a soul sin, and commit a trespass against the LORD, and lie unto his neighbour in that which was delivered him to keep, or in fellowship, or in a thing taken away by violence, or hath deceived his neighbour;
Lev 6:3 Or have found that which was lost, and lieth concerning it, and sweareth falsely; in any of all these that a man doeth, sinning therein:
Lev 6:4 Then it shall be, because he hath sinned, and is guilty, that he shall restore that which he took violently away, or the thing which he hath deceitfully gotten, or that which was delivered him to keep, or the lost thing which he found,
Lev 6:5 Or all that about which he hath sworn falsely; he shall even restore it in the principal, and shall add the fifth part more thereto, and give it unto him to whom it appertaineth, in the day of his trespass offering.
Lev 6:6 And he shall bring his trespass offering unto the LORD, a ram without blemish out of the flock, with thy estimation, for a trespass offering, unto the priest:
Lev 6:7 And the priest shall make an atonement for him before the LORD: and it shall be forgiven him for any thing of all that he hath done in trespassing therein.

Replace or repair and then repent and offer a sacrifice (the shadow of the coming perfect sacrifice) as a reminder of sin and what was coming to atone for it...

Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

In any case, justice was not to be by vigilante methods. The case was taken to the Levites and they made the decision. If it was too difficult for them, they took it to God and He answered by the Urim and Thummim.

To say we should run around stoning people today is a complete mischaracterization of the civil laws of Israel.
 
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jimmydiggs

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What I see mostly is people who want tatoos, want to be like the rest of the world. "oh, they have tattoos! I want one too. I'll get a tattoo that says: John 3:16" Like that, they sprinkle some Christian sprinkles onto the worlidness and now in their eyes it's okay.

Their are reasons for getting tattoos that aren't wrong, but I see this being the most prevalent among teens and college aged kids.
 
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Who was the FIRST person to have a tattoo? Then we know where they come from.... I know Jesus was the first pure man, so I know where he came from... But where does tattos come from if NOT OF GOD...

Who would want to wear something that doe not COME FROM GOD...

Bethy, who in your family has tattos that you are so ashamed of? Why if you have no tattoo fight to show TATOOS are OK... They ARE NOT! And nothing you say will make it OK...

All things NOT good is bad... Show me where TATTOOS are GOOD... The only reference to them by GOD is a BAD ONE... so DO NOT GET TATTOOS whosoever read this... DO NOT GET TATTOOS... They are NO GOOD!
 

gb9

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show me where it says he did not. God in this verse declared all food clean.
 
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Considering it was a VISION he probably didn't eat anything at all.

The vision was not about eating ONLY, it was about the habits, conduct and relationship between Israel and Gentile... The vision was to get Peter moving to Cornelius... And If you read about Cornelius, you might think it would be a good idea to be LIKE him in manner and life...
God thought highly of Cornelius, and that is why he sent Peter... It is an amzing rich Scripture that shows how God works...
Later Peter and Paul will have Words on the EATING with Gentiles and then Peter refraining because he was influenced by other JEWS... Facinating study... One that will enrich you greatly...
 

crossnote

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Those who are fastidious about the dietary laws, tatoos etc. may actually be disobeying the Lord they claim to follow...

Mark 7:14-23 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.
And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
 
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It seems to me it is important for each of us to settle for ourselves how we look at OT scripture. It is scripture, it is breathed by God. Christ says we are to listen, that it is not to be changed, and yet he also added to these laws. Now they were to be obeyed in spirit and truth, not just by what bible calls the letter of the law.

If we look at the law not to have tattoos in spirit and truth, we would not copy pagan worship, but we would also not put human marks on what God created. Yet, I put on lipstick etc. I do that to make the most of what God gave me, I accent it and it seems to me that is following God.

I also wear mixed fabrics. When a little polyester is added to wool, the wool looks the same and becomes washable, for instance. Perhaps I am fooling myself about trying to live as God directs and do that. I still think I am following God principles in spirit and truth, though. I use this principle in food, not eating what men changed food drastically like how they change flour, or even milk. I understand not to mix woman and woman, but mixing man with woman is how it was created. I think we are obeying in spirit and truth, perhaps I am kidding myself.