Christ's Gospel vs. Hebrew Roots
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I read about people who want nothing said unless it pleases them. They will only accept smooth words, no prophesy if it makes them uneasy, no teaching uless it truly tickles the ears. Anyone who teaches against any of the good and moral laws, statutes and/or ordinances of our Father, and they do it knowingly will need to anser to Jesus Christ, Yeshua, for He teahes this. I am very sorry if this teaching goes against anyone's theology, but that is the apostasy we are warned of by Yeshua. Watch out for being told you are trying to earn your Salvation because you just want to be good because it has happened here in the forum before. Yahweh bless you always KohenMatt............
I almost forgot my reference for the lead-in, it is from my daily Hebrew study, Isaiah 29...
I almost forgot my reference for the lead-in, it is from my daily Hebrew study, Isaiah 29...
1 Corinthians 12:12-13
For just as ithe body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, jso it is with Christ.13 For kin one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—lJews or Greeks, slaves4 or free—and mall were made to drink of one Spirit.
There we go this answers - any idea of partiality - no jew no greek no second baptism of the Holy Spirit or second blessing - fist in face
For just as ithe body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, jso it is with Christ.13 For kin one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—lJews or Greeks, slaves4 or free—and mall were made to drink of one Spirit.
There we go this answers - any idea of partiality - no jew no greek no second baptism of the Holy Spirit or second blessing - fist in face
I am so confused about this continuing statement that people who do not follow Hebrew roots deny sin. I certainly do not see it in this post. I have not seen any of the mainstream Christians deny that we sin and need to repent.
The entire Bible is the story of Jesus, who came to redeem us from sin. The Old Testament is about how Judah and Israel totally failed in most generations to serve and obey God. In fact, the worst sin was worshiping other gods.
The New Testament is filled with warnings to walk with God and repent if we fail.
"My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. [SUP]2 [/SUP]He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world."
I know I spend a lot of time confessing my sins daily and repenting, and that has born much fruit in my life. But obeying the Law of Moses or celebrating feast day are not defined as sin in the New Testament.
And yes, too much time spent on this topic. And sad that some people think they have to go back to the law, when Christ came to set us free from the law! (AND NOT SO WE WOULD SIN!! But instead so that we would follow Christ with all our hearts, minds souls and strength.)
It is the Holy Spirit that convicts, leads and guides and directs us. I have read the Bible at least 50 times, I know the laws and I know that I could never keep all those dietary and Levitical laws. But I can praise God that I do not have to, because:
"So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed." John 8:36
I would highly appreciate it if the Hebrew Roots people would stop telling me that I do not believe in sin, or I am not walking with the Holy Spirit and trying to live my life totally for God. The more I read the Bible, the more I realize the awesomeness of Christ's death and resurrection.
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. [SUP]18 [/SUP]He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." John 3:16-18
The entire Bible is the story of Jesus, who came to redeem us from sin. The Old Testament is about how Judah and Israel totally failed in most generations to serve and obey God. In fact, the worst sin was worshiping other gods.
The New Testament is filled with warnings to walk with God and repent if we fail.
"My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. [SUP]2 [/SUP]He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world."
I know I spend a lot of time confessing my sins daily and repenting, and that has born much fruit in my life. But obeying the Law of Moses or celebrating feast day are not defined as sin in the New Testament.
And yes, too much time spent on this topic. And sad that some people think they have to go back to the law, when Christ came to set us free from the law! (AND NOT SO WE WOULD SIN!! But instead so that we would follow Christ with all our hearts, minds souls and strength.)
It is the Holy Spirit that convicts, leads and guides and directs us. I have read the Bible at least 50 times, I know the laws and I know that I could never keep all those dietary and Levitical laws. But I can praise God that I do not have to, because:
"So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed." John 8:36
I would highly appreciate it if the Hebrew Roots people would stop telling me that I do not believe in sin, or I am not walking with the Holy Spirit and trying to live my life totally for God. The more I read the Bible, the more I realize the awesomeness of Christ's death and resurrection.
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. [SUP]18 [/SUP]He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." John 3:16-18
Living in grace by the Blood of Yeshua, the guilt of sin is no longer imputed against us, as the Pslamist writes in Psalm 32. Sin will exist as long as perfection has not been acheived.
Can you or anyone you have known replace Yeshua, the Lamb of Yahweh without blemish? Of course not, as is written, it is enough that we are made like Him, but we will never be He.
Anyone who believes Yeshua and says he has no sin is a liar, as taught by John. Now the curse of the Law, that is the punishment and death are destroyed on the Cross, but the law is not destroyed, it is completed by our Lord, Yeshua, for us.
Incidentally, I am not Hebrew Roots, although I do recognize our spiritual roots go back to Abraham. Yeshua teaches this.
Can you or anyone you have known replace Yeshua, the Lamb of Yahweh without blemish? Of course not, as is written, it is enough that we are made like Him, but we will never be He.
Anyone who believes Yeshua and says he has no sin is a liar, as taught by John. Now the curse of the Law, that is the punishment and death are destroyed on the Cross, but the law is not destroyed, it is completed by our Lord, Yeshua, for us.
Incidentally, I am not Hebrew Roots, although I do recognize our spiritual roots go back to Abraham. Yeshua teaches this.
Again, anyone teaching sin is no longer is not learning from Paul or from John or from anyone who knows the Word. Paul teaches to the Romans, "shall we sin more so grace abounds? God forbid." Paul is addressing those who believe, so is John in the following reference. He too is addressing those who believe. Are these great teachers wrong? I think not. John says anyone who says he does not have sin is a liar and the truth is not in him. All who have itching ears will love the teaching that sin no longer exists. Why is it written that when we do err, we have a Mediator between man and God, Yeshua.
If people want to claim they believe Yeshua, they should be quiet and learn before they put themselves in the place of a teacher for teachers will have much more for which answer come the Kingdom Beware of what you tell the innocent is true.
If people want to claim they believe Yeshua, they should be quiet and learn before they put themselves in the place of a teacher for teachers will have much more for which answer come the Kingdom Beware of what you tell the innocent is true.
Then a few hours later pride compelled you to post again so you could make a circus show of out dishonesty. I wonder why? 
Matt 7:20 Therefore, by their perot (fruits) you shall have da’as of them. (OJB)
Here's some real daily Hebrew study that won't tickle your ears jaumej...
Mishle 6:16-19 These shesh (six) things doth Hashem hate; indeed, shevah (seven) are an abomination unto His Nefesh; Haughty eyes, a lashon sheker, and hands guilty of shefach dahm naki, A lev that deviseth wicked machshevot (plans), raglayim that are swift in running to ra’ah, An ed sheker that speaketh lies, and he that soweth midanim (contention, strife, discords) among achim. (OJB)
Matt 7:20 Therefore, by their perot (fruits) you shall have da’as of them. (OJB)
Here's some real daily Hebrew study that won't tickle your ears jaumej...
Mishle 6:16-19 These shesh (six) things doth Hashem hate; indeed, shevah (seven) are an abomination unto His Nefesh; Haughty eyes, a lashon sheker, and hands guilty of shefach dahm naki, A lev that deviseth wicked machshevot (plans), raglayim that are swift in running to ra’ah, An ed sheker that speaketh lies, and he that soweth midanim (contention, strife, discords) among achim. (OJB)
Phil 3:8-9 Yea doubtless, and I count all things [but] loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them [but] dung, that I may win Christ, And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
