What Laws are still valid to christians

[homwardbound]

Too all reading this.......
Use it to die daily, and pick up our cross daily a follow. Use it to appreciate the sacrifice of Jesus, and to learn the aspects of presenting yourselves as a living sacrifice. Study it to know how to love God's way, not our way.

1 Corinthians 15:31 (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.

Luke 9:23 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

Hebrews 7:27 (KJV)
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

Romans 12:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

Leviticus 19:9-18 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the LORD your God.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Keep in mine that there are exactly the same number of days between the Passover, and the giving of the Mosaic Law at Sinai, as there is between the death of Christ, and Pentecost. It's all relative, the law and the prophets, along with New Testament teaching by the apostles, and Peter and John,and the letters to Timothy etc.

Exodus 19:1-16 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For they were departed from Rephidim, and were come to the desert of Sinai, and had pitched in the wilderness; and there Israel camped before the mount.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And Moses went up unto God, and the LORD called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people unto the LORD.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes,
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And he said unto the people, Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.

Keep in mind that all of what Jesus taught before His death was Old Testament.

Hebrews 9:16-17 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

May God bless all that understand this.

Maybe, just ask God to do the living through you in place of your old self daily

[h=3]Matthew 5:13-16[/h]Living Bible (TLB)

[SUP]13 [/SUP]“You are the world’s seasoning, to make it tolerable. If you lose your flavor, what will happen to the world? And you yourselves will be thrown out and trampled underfoot as worthless. [SUP]14 [/SUP]You are the world’s light—a city on a hill, glowing in the night for all to see. [SUP]15-16 [/SUP]Don’t hide your light! Let it shine for all; let your good deeds glow for all to see, so that they will praise your heavenly Father.

 

[homwardbound]

I think that using the law lawfully is knowing that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane...

exactly, for those that still need Christ to be fulfilled in them and through them do the Laws of Love unto all, even as Christ did
Romans 5:6 When we were utterly helpless, with no way of escape, Christ came at just the right time and died for us sinners who had no use for him.
Romans 7:4 Your “husband,” your master, used to be the Jewish law; but you “died,” as it were, with Christ on the cross; and since you are “dead,” you are no longer “married to the law,” and it has no more control over you. Then you came back to life again when Christ did and are a new person. And now you are “married,” so to speak, to the one who rose from the dead, so that you can produce good fruit, that is, good deeds for God.
Romans 8:34 Who then will condemn us? Will Christ? No! For he is the one who died for us and came back to life again for us and is sitting at the place of highest honor next to God, pleading for us there in heaven.
Romans 8:39 or where we are—high above the sky, or in the deepest ocean—nothing will ever be able to separate us from the love of God demonstrated by our Lord Jesus Christ when he died for us.

What does "Nothing" include, who is Faithful to show us truth, me. you, or anyone. Are we not nothing more that just waterers and or planters? Is it not God that does the increase? So why the delineation and making void the Law? The law is Holy, flesh is not shown to us all by Adam and Eve from the eating of that tree of Evil.
end of story.

 

[homwardbound]

Exodus 20:1-17

King James Version (KJV)

20 And God spake all these words, saying,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
[SUP]10 [/SUP]But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Thou shalt not kill.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Thou shalt not commit adultery.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Thou shalt not steal.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.


Romans 13:8-9

King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]8 [/SUP]Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Only in the Spirit of God shalt thou not do it, of the flesh trying one will do it hiding behind closed doors
No man can have two faces one to the crowd and another to self behind closed doors, without eventually being perplexed as to which one is true, and thus their calling to making a choice to either believe God or continue to act as if good when no one is good but GOD.

 

[just-me]

The above is not entirely correct.

• Passover was eaten in the evening of the 14th.
• Unleavened Bread began on the 15th and lasted for 7 days.
• Firstfruits was the day after the next sabbath and commemorated firstfruits of the barley harvest.
• The feast of weeks was Pentecost and was the 50th day after Firstfruits. Pentecost commemorated firstfruits of the wheat harvest.

The next day according to Hebrew culture starts at sundown
The feast of unleavened bread was for 7 days

Exodus 13:6-7 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, and in the seventh day shall be a feast to the LORD.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Unleavened bread shall be eaten seven days; and there shall no leavened bread be seen with thee, neither shall there be leaven seen with thee in all thy quarters.

Leviticus 23:15-17 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, (1 day) from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto the LORD.

From what I read, there are 7 weeks counted plus one day = 50 days and then the first fruits in chronological order.

Leviticus 23:15-17 (CJB)
15 "'From the day after the day of rest -that is, from the day you bring the sheaf for waving -you are to count seven full weeks,
16 until the day after the seventh week; you are to fifty count days; and then you are to present a new grain offering to ADONAI.
17 You must bring bread from your homes for waving-two loaves made with one gallon of fine flour, baked with leaven -as firstfruits for ADONAI.

Daily Bible Study - Pentecost
Pentecost originated after the Exodus when it was variously called the Feast of First Fruits, the Feast of Weeks, or the Feast of Harvest (Leviticus 23:15-21, Deuteronomy 16:9-12). It was observed 50 days after the ceremonial cutting of the first grain offering after the Passover - hence the origin of the Greek word Pentecost, which means "fiftieth." By no coincidence, the New Testament Pentecost, as we read in the opening verses, occurred 50 days after the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the "first of the first fruits."

 

[homwardbound]

John 17:4-5 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Looks like the plan of salvation was complete, but not fulfilled yet, before God created the world. It was completed, and fulfilled when Jesus said...
John 19:30 (KJV)
[SUP]30 [/SUP]When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

This shows us the doorway to new life in the Spirit of God is through the death of Christ for us all that believe and might see life in the Spirit if we put no confidence in the flesh and be dead to it at the death of Christ


Philippians 3:1-11

King James Version (KJV)

3 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
[SUP]10 [/SUP]That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;


Matthew 27:33-34 (KJV)
[SUP]33 [/SUP]And when they were come unto a place called Golgotha, that is to say, a place of a skull,
[SUP]34 [/SUP]They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.
Greek=vinegar 3690=swift, rapid sour wine “oxos”


As I contemplated this scripture, and started to investigate why Jesus didn’t drink the vinegar at the start of Him being nailed to the cross, I found that the word for vinegar is the same as leaven in three different passages found in the Old Testament. Therefore, to compare these Old Testament relationships with the leaven found in the New Testament, I will quote three verses in 1 Corinthians that would apply.

1 Corinthians 5:6-8 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
Greek=leaven 2219=fermentation as in boiling up “zume”

One glories in either of their own flesh and or others flesh as well, or they glory in God only, as Paul was clear on, all gory to God alone

 

[homwardbound]

jesus raised from the dead, and went back to heaven. at what point is completed mean. he sent out the holy spirit. just a thought.

I would say at the reception of the Holy Ghost it is completed as each person that believes, receives and then sees personaqlly it is then completed in that person as well as it is already completed in Christ so we see this:
[h=3]1 John 3:3[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)


[SUP]3 [/SUP]And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1 John 2:2 and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Daily Bible Study - Pentecost
Pentecost originated after the Exodus when it was variously called the Feast of First Fruits, the Feast of Weeks, or the Feast of Harvest (Leviticus 23:15-21, Deuteronomy 16:9-12). It was observed 50 days after the ceremonial cutting of the first grain offering after the Passover - hence the origin of the Greek word Pentecost, which means "fiftieth." By no coincidence, the New Testament Pentecost, as we read in the opening verses, occurred 50 days after the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the "first of the first fruits."

This is incorrect. Firstfruits was part of the feast of unleavened bread. The wave sheaf was the firstfruits of the barley harvest.

50 days later came Pentecost, with two leavened wave loaves made from the firstfruits of the wheat harvest.

The feast of harvest was tabernacles in the fall of the year.

 

[just-me]

Of course the giving of the law of Moses and the giving of the spirit both occurred 50 days after Firstfruits. One was the law of the old covenant; the other is the law of the new covenant.

Originally Posted by just-me

The 14[SUP]th[/SUP] day is Passover
The 15[SUP]th[/SUP] day starts the (**)feast of weeks lasting 49 days.
On the 50th day is the feast of (***) first fruits, commemorating Pentecost, and the Israelites acting upon the commandments given to Moses. The growing season took 50 days for the barley to ripen representing the leaven of truth, ministered first to the Israelites, and then to the world through Christ.

The above is not entirely correct.


· Passover was eaten in the evening of the 14th.
· Unleavened Bread began on the 15th and lasted for 7 days.
· Firstfruits was the day after the next sabbath and commemorated firstfruits of the barley harvest.
· The feast of weeks was Pentecost and was the 50th day after Firstfruits. Pentecost commemorated firstfruits of the wheat harvest.

The next day started at sundown according to the Israelites.

*I've always understood, from what I have read in the Bible, that first fruits and Pentecost were both the same on the same day as the giving of the law. All three together relates it to the vinegar Jesus refuse at 9AM and at 3PM drank the vinegar at His death relating the vinegar to the leaven.

This is incorrect. Firstfruits was part of the feast of unleavened bread. The wave sheaf was the firstfruits of the barley harvest.

50 days later came Pentecost, with two leavened wave loaves made from the firstfruits of the wheat harvest.

The feast of harvest was tabernacles in the fall of the year.

OK straighten me out. Crops were planted in the spring, (Passover as I understand) and it took 50 days for the earliest crops to mature, and then it was harvested. Was that the first fruits from the previous year that was part of the feast of unleavened bread, or did the Israelites make leaved bread from that harvest in the same year? I ask because of what you said “50 days later came Pentecost, with two leavened wave loaves made from the first fruits of the wheat harvest.” The way it appears is that “first fruits, and Pentecost, and the giving of the law were all the same day. *So as I understood, first fruits wasn't just one week after Passover, it was 50 days after the Passover. Could be that I misunderstood you.

Leviticus 23:15-21 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:

(start counting from the time of the wave offering 49 days)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto the LORD.

(leaven bread is baked at that time and called the "first fruits)

[SUP]18 [/SUP]And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto the LORD, with their meat offering, and their drink offerings, even an offering made by fire, of sweet savour unto the LORD.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Then ye shall sacrifice one kid of the goats for a sin offering, and two lambs of the first year for a sacrifice of peace offerings.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]And the priest shall wave them with the bread of the firstfruits for a wave offering before the LORD, with the two lambs: they shall be holy to the LORD for the priest.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, that it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work therein: it shall be a statute for ever in all your dwellings throughout your generations.


Deuteronomy 16:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Observe the month of Abib,(first month of the year out March and/or April) and keep the passover unto the LORD thy God: for in the month of Abib the LORD thy God brought thee forth out of Egypt by night.
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Deuteronomy 26:1-2 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]And it shall be, when thou art come in unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, and possessest it, and dwellest therein;
[SUP]2 [/SUP]That thou shalt take of the first of all the fruit of the earth, which thou shalt bring of thy land that the LORD thy God giveth thee, and shalt put it in a basket, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose to place his name there.
Shavu'ot, the Festival of Weeks, is the second of the three major festivals with both historical and agricultural significance (the other two are Passover and Sukkot). Agriculturally, Festival of Weeks commemorates the time when the first fruits were harvested and brought to the Temple, and is known as Hag ha-Bikkurim (the Festival of the First Fruits). Historically, it celebrates the giving of the law at Mount Sinai.

*The Feast of Pentecost: The Firstfruits of God's Harvest
Web site
The Feast of Pentecost: The Firstfruits of God's Harvest | United Church of God

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

*I've always understood, from what I have read in the Bible, that first fruits and Pentecost were both the same on the same day as the giving of the law. All three together relates it to the vinegar Jesus refuse at 9AM and at 3PM drank the vinegar at His death relating the vinegar to the leaven.

Firstfruits followed the beginning of unleavened bread, and preceded pentecost by 50 days. It foreshadowed the resurrection of Christ, firstfruits out of the dead.

OK straighten me out. Crops were planted in the spring, (Passover as I understand) and it took 50 days for the earliest crops to mature, and then it was harvested. Was that the first fruits from the previous year that was part of the feast of unleavened bread, or did the Israelites make leaved bread from that harvest in the same year? I ask because of what you said “50 days later came Pentecost, with two leavened wave loaves made from the first fruits of the wheat harvest.” The way it appears is that “first fruits, and Pentecost, and the giving of the law were all the same day. *So as I understood, first fruits wasn't just one week after Passover, it was 50 days after the Passover. Could be that I misunderstood you.

Barley was planted in the winter and harvested in the spring around Passover. A sheaf of the firstfruits of that crop was presented after the beginning of unleavened bread, but 50 days before Pentecost, which was the firstfruits of the wheat harvest. Barley symbolizes Christ's humiliation because barley was considered a food for cattle and peasants.

The two loaves of leavened wheat bread waved at Pentecost, IMO, symbolize Israel and the church, which were both born on that day. The multitude who were saved at Pentecost were firstfruits of the church. So basically, there were two times when firstfruits were offered, but the first one around Passover is technically called Firstfruits.

The 7 appointed times are Passover, unleavened bread, firstfruits, Pentecost, day of trumpets, day of atonement, tabernacles.

 

[just-me]

Firstfruits followed the beginning of unleavened bread, and preceded pentecost by 50 days. It foreshadowed the resurrection of Christ, firstfruits out of the dead.



Barley was planted in the winter and harvested in the spring around Passover. A sheaf of the firstfruits of that crop was presented after the beginning of unleavened bread, but 50 days before Pentecost, which was the firstfruits of the wheat harvest. Barley symbolizes Christ's humiliation because barley was considered a food for cattle and peasants.

The two loaves of leavened wheat bread waved at Pentecost, IMO, symbolize Israel and the church, which were both born on that day. The multitude who were saved at Pentecost were firstfruits of the church. So basically, there were two times when firstfruits were offered, but the first one around Passover is technically called Firstfruits.

The 7 appointed times are Passover, unleavened bread, firstfruits, Pentecost, day of trumpets, day of atonement, tabernacles.

Thanks.
How does the leaven bread fit in with the feast of first fruits?

 

[SirLucan]

All of them.

Ye art artful. Very artful. Just be more thorough. Read verse 20, "For I say unto, that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees, you shall not enter the kingdom of heaven." What say you? Pray tell.

 

[royalscot]

I would say at the reception of the Holy Ghost it is completed as each person that believes, receives and then sees personaqlly it is then completed in that person as well as it is already completed in Christ so we see this:
1 John 3:3

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)


[SUP]3 [/SUP]And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1 John 2:2 and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

how dose this complete his interpretation of danels vision, lol

 

[royalscot]

to begin with, I do not see Moses as killing that Egyptian on purpose, he saw the cruelty, and out of compassion for fellow man, not knowing they were yet his family, I think as of yet, anyway it was not on his heart to kill, yet it happened, he was stopping the cruelty that he saw as not being just.
So no matter why he fled, he fled.
One could ask why did his Mother put him in the river? how did she know to do this from fear or by God saying to do this? that is not recorded. what is recorded is she did as she did, and Moses did as he did. God is a Loving, Merciful God to those that seek God, find God today, now through Christ.
David killed, as well, yet saw a Godly repentance afterwards, in place of the worldly one he had. When the Prophet Nathaniel, told David the truth that God told him to tell David, and this was in private, David could have furthered his selfishness and killed the Prophet, rather he repented and from their put full trust into the living God, Just as Moses did, and by Faith did as God instructed, and the people that cried out for 430 years in slavery were delivered, by God through Moses, and they cried even more afterward in the deliverance, this is what flesh does when one does not truly believe. They stay in captivity and whine and complain, even though they saw all the miracles from God through Moses.
I personally do not know how God is going to get me through my mess, but I know God will. So I am going to walk in Faith each and every day I have here and now on this earth in trust. God to this day has never failed me, even when it appears God has, just as Jesus yelled out why has thou forsaken me, when Father never did, the flesh is deceptive and Christ yelling that out shows us all that. prayerfully we all learn from our tragedies in our lives here and now. Quit seeing them as punishment, rather as being perfected through them, if we decide to learn and quit the complaining, start the learning from adversities, what a wonderful future we shall have in eternity, seeing that from here right now today and living each day in the present, for that is what a present is from God to live in the present becomes the Present.
Praying this is helpful, and Thank you for asking

it was to make a point howardbound, on judgements.

 

[just-me]

Firstfruits followed the beginning of unleavened bread, and preceded pentecost by 50 days. It foreshadowed the resurrection of Christ, firstfruits out of the dead.



Barley was planted in the winter and harvested in the spring around Passover. A sheaf of the firstfruits of that crop was presented after the beginning of unleavened bread, but 50 days before Pentecost, which was the firstfruits of the wheat harvest. Barley symbolizes Christ's humiliation because barley was considered a food for cattle and peasants.

The two loaves of leavened wheat bread waved at Pentecost, IMO, symbolize Israel and the church, which were both born on that day. The multitude who were saved at Pentecost were firstfruits of the church. So basically, there were two times when firstfruits were offered, but the first one around Passover is technically called Firstfruits.

The 7 appointed times are Passover, unleavened bread, firstfruits, Pentecost, day of trumpets, day of atonement, tabernacles.

I did make one mistake according to my calculations. Barley was planted like what we planted as “winter wheat” when I was a kid. I assumed that barley took 50 days to mature, because, as a kid we never grew barley. My assumption was incorrect concerning the maturity rate.

Here is what I found on an agricultural site concerning the rate of barley maturity.
For a particular variety this figure will vary considerably depending on location, season, and date of seeding. It tends to be lower in the south because of increased heat units.

80 to 100 days to flower, with harvest is 6-8 weeks after flowering.

Leviticus 2:14
[SUP]14 [/SUP]“If you offer a grain offering of firstfruits to the Lord, you shall offer for the grain offering of your firstfruits fresh [SUP]f[/SUP]ears, roasted with fire, crushed new grain.

This is the rest that I found concerning the relationship to the “firstfruits” and Pentecost. As I understand the above verse, the “firstfruits” were tender plants and had to be dried by fire to be acceptable. They were the first of the season to mature. That sounds familiar. Cool, baptized with fire.

Matthew 3:11 (KJV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP]I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
I think this will confirm that Pentecost and firstfruits are on the same day. If there is a scripture to say different, I would like to know. Sincerely.

The rest is what I found on the web:

This Day of Pentecost in A.D. 31 was the beginning of the Church of God. The disciples who had been trained by Christ for 3½ years had received the Holy Spirit and began to fulfill their responsibilities as apostles. The sending forth of God’s Spirit is the central meaning of Pentecost. This feast also depicts the small early spring harvest, which typifies those called into God’s Church in this age as firstfruits.

Pentecost is mentioned in these two places after the event recorded in Acts 2. In Acts 20:16, Luke recorded that Paul was determined to keep this feast in Jerusalem. I Corinthians 16:8shows Paul informing the Church at Corinth that he would stay in Ephesus until Pentecost. All the Holy Days were important milestones and the apostles often used these days as benchmarks in time. One more important reference is often overlooked due to a mistranslation. In apostolic times, this Holy Day was often referred to as the “day of weeks.” The day of weeks was another term for the Feast of Weeks, also called the Feast of Firstfruits and Pentecost by those who spoke Greek.

The two loaves of bread represented the times of the Old Testament Church and the times of the New Testament Church (called out ones). In the offering at this Feast, one loaf portrayed ancient Israel and the other loaf portrayed the true Church. The fact that both loaves contained leavening shows that even those called after the time of Christ are in the process of overcoming sin and developing character.

In Summary
God gave the Ten Commandments from Mount Sinai on the Feast of Pentecost. Although the Law was written in stone at that time (Ex. 31:18), those whom God calls into His Church are to have the Law written in their hearts (Jer. 31:33).

 

[Elin]

HalleluYAHWEH brother Greybeard!, I agree but want to add, its more than 10:

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be.

Note what work Jesus said that God would have us do: "This is the work of God: to believe in the one he has sent."

"Repent, and believe the good news!" (Mk 1:16)

I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."

Note that it is outside the New Jerusalem, which is the Bride of the Lamb (Rev 19:7-8).

All those not included in the Bride of the Lamb are dogs, sorcerers, and whoremongers.

Yahchanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."

Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your hneighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Shaul knew this:

Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather,
we establish the Law!"

Yes, faith frees us from the condemnation of the law, which is now written on the heart and which loving fulfills.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Thanks.
How does the leaven bread fit in with the feast of first fruits?

Leavened bread was not a part of Firstfruits. No leaven was allowed during that week. The leaven in the two loaves at Pentecost symbolizes sin that yet exists in GOD's people.

 

[royalscot]

I would say at the reception of the Holy Ghost it is completed as each person that believes, receives and then sees personaqlly it is then completed in that person as well as it is already completed in Christ so we see this:
1 John 3:3

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)


[SUP]3 [/SUP]And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1 John 2:2 and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sin,

how dose this complete his interpretation, lol

it should read like this.

 

[Hoffco]

This has been a very delightful read, with no arguments and fighting, thanks. I love to see how Christ fulfilled and did away with the Old Testament feasts etc. and then How Jesus and the Holy Spirit taught the Apostles the New Testament truths, which is the fulfillment of the O.T.. NOW, it is obvious, to me, that Jesus will return and finish fulfilling the rest of the O.T.. I have a question, as to why will there be any other feast, the Day of Atonement, associated with Jesus 2nd. coming? I n my opinion the Passover finished the Atonement for sin. Why is there another day of atonement in the Jewish feasts? Jesus only has to die once.! Love to all. Hoffco

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

I have a question, as to why will there be any other feast, the Day of Atonement, associated with Jesus 2nd. coming? I n my opinion the Passover finished the Atonement for sin. Why is there another day of atonement in the Jewish feasts? Jesus only has to die once.! Love to all. Hoffco

On the day of atonement, the high priest entered the holiest place twice. The second time was to make atonement for his people. When he emerged from the second visit, he placed the sins of Israel on a goat and banished it away from the congregation into the wilderness.

This was all a shadow of Christ who has entered the holiest place twice, but has not yet emerged to put away sin forever. He is yet making atonement for his people in the holiest place. So this is the indication that this day has not been fully fulfilled yet.

 

[just-me]

Originally Posted by just-me

Thanks.
How does the leaven bread fit in with the feast of first fruits?

Leavened bread was not a part of Firstfruits. No leaven was allowed during that week. The leaven in the two loaves at Pentecost symbolizes sin that yet exists in GOD's people.

Leviticus 23:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto the LORD.