Why are we allowing our government to trample our Christian values?

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2 Peter 2:1-6 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

What has happened is that we have separated our religious thoughts from the everyday life that we live. We have (not on purpose, but by deception) labeled Israel as a failure when it came to keeping the law of God, labeling God’s instruction for peace and prosperity as a failure also. We see in the above scripture that judgment came upon Sodom and Gomorrah for practicing immorality, and we see in our current administration deception like never before. (I speak about the United States only) We have numerous scandals that have arisen with no answers or accountability in literally every case.

The scripture below tells us clearly, if a nation practices the statutes and judgments that God gave to Israel they would be seen by the entire world as having wisdom and understanding. Also in these scriptures we can see ourselves in that we are suppose to look at this Biblical Israel, and emulate these things that we read about in the scriptures. We know by the records of events, written in the Word of God, what caused Israel to flourish, and what caused them to diminish. It’s not hard to comprehend, and it isn’t a fairy tale of times past. We have separated those things from the Christian faith saying they were for them and not for us, or it’s all a thing of the past and doesn’t apply because that was then, and this is now. Look how far we’ve come. Seems like the more progressive we are, the faster we drive in reverse.

Deuteronomy 4:5-6 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.
 
I think you will be happier elsewhere. Many of us here do our best to adhere to scriptural morals and ethics as God laid them out, first to Israel so she could be an example for the rest of the world, then through Jesus Christ as He taught in the gospels of the New Testament. They are not the least bit like what liberals like Obama promote in America. And since God told us to boldly preach His Word and teach all of His ways, I doubt you will be comfortable here. But you are welcome to stay and learn.

I haven't awarded any ducats lately. I hereby award thee 1,322 ducats. Very good. Now go in the spirit of which thou hast shown here. May you prosper on your way. Spend all or none. Linger or meander. Doest thouest Knowest thatest thou hast greetedest a mostedest irritatedest Johnest? Thou hastest delieverdest a most honorabelest noticesest. Enoughest of thisest stuffest of myest. Okayest.

I can'stest stoppest thisest.
 
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I haven't awarded any ducats lately. I hereby award thee 1,322 ducats. Very good. Now go in the spirit of which thou hast shown here. May you prosper on your way. Spend all or none. Linger or meander. Doest thouest Knowest thatest thou hast greetedest a mostedest irritatedest Johnest? Thou hastest delieverdest a most honorabelest noticesest. Enoughest of thisest stuffest of myest. Okayest.

I can'stest stoppest thisest.

Job 38:41 Who provideth for the raven his food? when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of meat.

There Were Three Ravens
Thomas Ravenscroft (1611
:p)
1. There were three Ravens sat on a tree,
There were three Ravens sat on a tree,
There were three Ravens sat on a tree,
they were as blacke as they might be,
2. The one of them said to his mate,
The one of them said to his mate,
The one of them said to his mate
Where shall we our breakefast take?
3. Downe in yonder greene field
There lies a Knight slain under his shield,
4. His hounds they lie downe at his feete,
So well they can their Master keepe,
5. His Haukes they flie so eagerly,
There's no fowle dare him come nie,
6. Downe there comes a fallow Doe
As great with young as she might goe,
7. She lift up his bloudy hed,
And kist his wounds that were so red,
8. She got him up upon her backe,
And carried him to earthen lake,
9. She buried him before the prime,
She was dead her selfe ere euen-song time
10. God send every gentleman
Such haukes, such hounds, and such a Leman,
 
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I AWARD THE DUCATS FROM LANDS AFAR. I AWARD THEE DUCATS FROM HITHER AND THITHER. I AWARD THEE DUCATS FROM THIS GENERATION AND THE NEXT. THERE MUST BE A 'SUPER LIKE' SOMEWHERE.
Well you could always give rep with the rep button
 
What has happened is that we have separated our religious thoughts from the everyday life that we live. We have (not on purpose, but by deception) labeled Israel as a failure when it came to keeping the law of God, labeling God’s instruction for peace and prosperity as a failure also.
This is where our thoughts diverge. You say it's because (we) have labelled Israel a failure. I say it's because we have and continue to support and enable such wickedness. Who is right and wrong on this issue probably should be left for the other threads that discuss this, but I think we can both agree that this issue needs resolution before solutions can be realised in our own countries.

We see in the above scripture that judgment came upon Sodom and Gomorrah for practicing immorality, and we see in our current administration deception like never before. (I speak about the United States only) We have numerous scandals that have arisen with no answers or accountability in literally every case.
I also think that the immorality has been planned. Our nations are and have been wicked to indulge in iniquity, but where has the temptation come from? I say it was designed, as Balaam taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin and bring judgement on themselves.

The scripture below tells us clearly, if a nation practices the statutes and judgments that God gave to Israel they would be seen by the entire world as having wisdom and understanding. Also in these scriptures we can see ourselves in that we are suppose to look at this Biblical Israel, and emulate these things that we read about in the scriptures.
As per the New Covenant, yes.

We know by the records of events, written in the Word of God, what caused Israel to flourish, and what caused them to diminish. It’s not hard to comprehend, and it isn’t a fairy tale of times past. We have separated those things from the Christian faith saying they were for them and not for us, or it’s all a thing of the past and doesn’t apply because that was then, and this is now. Look how far we’ve come. Seems like the more progressive we are, the faster we drive in reverse.
Agreed. I would also add this immorality and iniquity isn't coincidence. It's being driven. Hollywood, TV programs, education centres, etc. Who is funding these? How is this funding available? Answer these questions, and you'll get closer to unmasking the true enemy (who ultimately is the devil, but he has his agents on Earth).
 
Blain, I just gave rep to another. I will give rep to the former. As for you, I give you a ducat.
Thank you
 
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That's funny.
It's a commoner's pence.
lol So very generous of you, I may be poor but I am rich in spirit. but as they say, when the pennies pile up so do the dollars. you should see me on my walks, I find pennies sometimes and say YAY A PENNY and people look at me weird lol
 
Revelation 3:15I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other!

Revelation 22:11
Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.

Rev. 22:12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
 
When the going gets tough, the tough get going.
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2 Timothy 2:3 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
 
Internment and Resettlement Operations

FM 39-40...

http://www.constitution.org/abus/intern/USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf

‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to cast some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.’

Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

But I will warn you whom to fear: fear the One who, after He has killed, has authority to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear Him!

For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God.


TORTURINGDEMOCRACY.ORG

Tribulation:

1. Great affliction, trial, or distress; suffering

Synonym: Torture?
 
lol So very generous of you, I may be poor but I am rich in spirit. but as they say, when the pennies pile up so do the dollars. you should see me on my walks, I find pennies sometimes and say YAY A PENNY and people look at me weird lol

Something about that penny found. Something about that "Yay a penny." Reminds me of Solomon's Ecclesiastes, in paraphrase: Enjoy the common, simple things of life, honest living, hard work, and God's goodness.
 
I've been reading about this hate campaign in the military. But I read on FB today, the government is backing off. Sorry, no link, I have so many American friends, I have no idea who might have posted it.

One thing, is when you actually read about the military press release, it was more about a certain organization, rather than all evangelical organizations, although I did hear that Southern Baptist chaplains and Catholic priests were forbidden to talk about God for a while there.

Hope someone finds the link to the new directive!