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MahogonySnail

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where i shop is none of your business. but if i was looking to buy some self righteous, arrogance, i know id be able to find plenty from you.
and im still waiting for you to justify your statement that no true christian shops at walmart.
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Wow Semiazas that I would expect from you, an unsaved person who can't contribute anything of value to these forums except to write cynical and bitchy two-line remarks towards what everyone else says.

So I guess my point is, as Christians we think nothing of corporate greed growing day by day under your noses and pushing the little guy out of business? And people like Oprah push this mass market corporate greed fuelled by the TV stations and advertising? Think bigger.
 
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hmmm my experience of Canadian walmart include it being the employer of my disabled cousin and her boyfriend. They both are proud of their jobs, are treated with great respect, earn decent wages (my one cousin has cerebal palsy and is in their accounting dept.) Her boyfriend had brain surgery a decade ago so he isnt the fastest thinker but he can clean up and stock shelves. He is so very proud of his employee of the month status. Anyway once again i feel like the thread is heading way out to left field walmart instead of way WAAAY up Heaven... what was it we were talking about anyhow??? :D:eek:
 
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Wow Semiazas that I would expect from you, an unsaved person who can't contribute anything of value to these forums except to write cynical and bitchy two-line remarks towards what everyone else says.
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This too is exactly what I would expect from you mahogony. A ''professing Christian'' acting any way but Christ- like, being hateful, insultive, and cursing. Yeah, what a witness.
 
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and watchmen waiting in the wings for a mahogany mistep to POUNCE :eek:... eieiei...you guys definitely keep us entertained... AAAANNNNYWAY about Heaven??:cool:
 
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Watchmen it's called a rebuke. If I have been hateful, insulting or cursing, then you need to show evidence. Just because I don't agree with your Oneness heresies, doesn't mean you have to find every opportunity to attack me.
 
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and watchmen waiting in the wings for a mahogany mistep to POUNCE :eek:... eieiei...you guys definitely keep us entertained... AAAANNNNYWAY about Heaven??:cool:
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hahaha ....lol, yeah what about heaven? This thread has been side tracked in about ten different ways....lol
 
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Watchmen it's called a rebuke. If I have been hateful, insulting or cursing, then you need to show evidence. Just because I don't agree with your Oneness heresies, doesn't mean you have to find every opportunity to attack me.
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We need not rebuke unbelievers, and the post I quoted from in my post was all the evidence you need. There are many, many people here that do not believe in Oneness the difference between them and you is they are not hateful, or bitter, holding strife in their hearts for others that do not bow to their every word.
 
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I don't care if they are believers or not, if someone attacks me as being self righteous and arrogant I feel deserved to point out their behaviour also. Particularly Semiazas often writes very cynical and derogatory remarks to what I and others say. I don't mind if they present some evidence to the contrary or words of wisdom but I don't like plain attacks out of the blue for no reason.

Watchmen you're the last person in here to be accusing others of being hateful, bitter and holding strife in their hearts, you're one of the biggest badgerers of how you're a "true" christian you and your "remnant", despite you believing in heresy. The way you label people as bad and mean or false or true Christian is wrong, you don't know my heart or me personally and most of the time you fight Christ not me.
 
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I don't care if they are believers or not, if someone attacks me as being self righteous and arrogant I feel deserved to point out their behaviour also
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Maybe you should look in the mirror and stop being so self righteous, and arrogant, instead instituting your right to point out their flaws. Everyone knows Simiazas is an unbeliever we should have no expectations of him at all.
 
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Watchmen you're the last person in here to be accusing others of being hateful, bitter and holding strife in their hearts, you're one of the biggest badgerers of how you're a "true" christian you and your "remnant", despite you believing in heresy. The way you label people as bad and mean or false or true Christian is wrong, you don't know my heart or me personally and most of the time you fight Christ not me.
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#1 Most of people who claim christianity as their ''religion'' are not truly saved. That is a simple fact, not me being hateful
#2 I do not know you personally or your heart, but I do not from personal experience, and observing how you treat others that you are hateful, and mean. If you so not like that, change it. No need to attack me for what anyone can plainly see.
 
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Part of me hopes that heaven is kind of like you just sort of keep living life, only it's awesome without all the stupid stuff you have to deal with.
 
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oh, and icecream won't have calories, in fact, it'llbe GOOD for you!
 
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I note that you borrow the words self-righetous and arrogant from Semiazas, not very original Watchmen. The truth is I'm not arrogant but I do stand for what I believe in and you confuse arrogance with boldness and confidence. And well if you prefer I can be one of those people who quiver and umm and ahh over their beliefs and believe there's 50 different answers to the same question and everyone is right just to keep everyone happy but I'm not like that. And if I'm self-righteous then I have to ask why in the world do I believe in Christ?

Now I don't care of Semiazas is a believer or not,but before he points the finger at me he should first point that finger at himself, hopefully to realise his own lost condition and state of his heart, and need for Christ. Watchmen you might be the kind of man that lets anyone walk all over you but I am not.
 
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I note that you borrow the words self-righetous and arrogant from Semiazas, not very original Watchmen.
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Actually I got them from your post :)
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I don't care if they are believers or not, if someone attacks me as being self righteous and arrogant
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#1 Most of people who claim christianity as their ''religion'' are not truly saved. That is a simple fact, not me being hateful
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The problem is people like yourself who don't even believe in some fundamental Christian doctrines that everyone else believes in, think they have the right to declare who is "truly saved" and who isn't. If I have ever made that judgement call please quote me. But when you judge others like that you imply they either go to heaven or hell and so it offends Christ.


#2 I do not know you personally or your heart, but I do not from personal experience, and observing how you treat others that you are hateful, and mean. If you so not like that, change it. No need to attack me for what anyone can plainly see.
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From experience I also know you like to call anyone who disagrees with you and calls you out for what you are - a heretic, as being hateful and mean. I don't say that to be mean or hateful I say that out of love because I do want you to be walking in the truth of sound doctrine and not on your own or part of a "remnant" and isolated from the rest of mainstream Christianity. If anyone takes offense at what I say they will usually let me know and I will apologise.
 
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where i shop is none of your business. but if i was looking to buy some self righteous, arrogance, i know id be able to find plenty from you.
and im still waiting for you to justify your statement that no true christian shops at walmart.
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not that mahogany needs any help & yes, harley angel I think there will be no calories in ice cream and we'll always feel that feeling of taking a ride with the wind in the hair on a luke warm day.
 
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The truth is I'm not arrogant but I do stand for what I believe in and you confuse arrogance with boldness and confidence.
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I do understand this, because many time my own confidence, and boldness are mistaking for arrogance. However I think we both need to take a step back, and see how we come across to others, and try to correct that so it does not ruin our testimony.
And well if you prefer I can be one of those people who quiver and umm and ahh over their beliefs and believe there's 50 different answers to the same question and everyone is right just to keep everyone happy but I'm not like that.
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No i would simply perfer you did not comdemn everyone who does not agree with you. II too hold firm to my beliefs , and will not be swayed by the doctrines of men. That is how God would want us to be.
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14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:


I believe both of us (not just you) have got verse 14 down pat, but still need to work on verse 15. We need not only speak the truth in boldness, but in love


And if I'm self-righteous then I have to ask why in the world do I believe in Christ?
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I also many times have been accuse of self righteousness, mainly because I do not believe in OSAS, and because I believe as Christians we need to be holy, separate, righteous, reflections of Christ.


Seems we are very much a like. You should not hate me because we differ in one doctrine that cannot save nor condemn us.
 
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When have I ever condemned anyone who doesn't agree with me? I will correct, I will give evidence, from the bible, theologians , logic, common sense, yeah I might ridicule sometimes with a little sarcastic wit, it's a useful debating tactic, but condemn anyone? Where did I do that exactly? I try not to. Where did I ever call you, Watchmen, "bad and mean", as you called me in a previous thread? If so I apologise.
Yet you still assume I "hate" you. I don't hate you brother I just don't want you to be like the many other loners out there I've met standing up for their own interpretations but drifting further and further away from well-established doctrines and becoming isolated. Yeah I agree with your assessment re: vs 15. As long as we understand that speaking truth in love does not mean failing to declare truth but our motives. Yeah I'm grateful for people who have rebuked me in the past even if they didn't say it with lovey dovey language and sweet little voices I know it comes from a heart of love that seeks and desires for me , the best.
 
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I do want you to be walking in the truth of sound doctrine and not on your own or part of a "remnant" and isolated from the rest of mainstream Christianity. If anyone takes offense at what I say they will usually let me know and I will apologise.
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I take offinse to almost everything you say, and you have never apologized to me. Further more you and I must have different opinions of what mainstream Christianity is. You are right I do not want to be associated with the mainstream of Christianity. I want to be associated with those that are truly serving Christ, those that reflect Christ, whether they be trinitarian or Oneness. Remember I go to a trinitarin church, and I am also a frequent attender of a house of prayer called RIHOP, that is 90% trinitarian. Both my church families are trinitarians. I would gladly be associated with them. Just not mainstream, liberal, American christianity, that looks nothing like the christianity described in the N.T.
 
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So, i always wondered what it would be like when an immovable object met an unstoppable force. I believe it's Watchmen and Mahogany...lol.
 
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