"The Sabbath is...

[timberdoodle]

You have not answer my question but i shall answer it for thee


Ironically the book of leviticus is the only book that mentions that sleeping with animals is wrong hmmm yet it is in the old . Since you dont believe that in law but grace alone then you should have no problem with people sleeping with animals because hmm we are in the new testement right ,

Not sure why we ended up here. Maybe we should refocus on Romans 14. We are a far cry from where we started. Romans 14:5 speaks of the Sabbath

Timber

 

[Kerry]

Is Daniel, If it were possible for man to keep law, then why did God become a man and sacrifice Himself as a Lamb that we might be saved? why couldn't the law do that? Step out of your zeal and think for a second. Why were the Pharisees who keep law as best they could called by Jesus a brood of vipers and blind guides and hypocrites. Just think about. The fathers had faith in the cross.

 

[Isdaniel]

Can good works save you? Yes or no? The answer is no. No matter how good we are , we fall short.

What does the Word of The Lord say on this issue?

Blessings



Timberdoodle

Hmm ironically though you did not answer my question hmmm well the bible clearly shows that evil works can and will lead someone to hell . This is also the answer if good works can save you or not .

 

[timberdoodle]

Hmm ironically though you did not answer my question hmmm well the bible clearly shows that evil works can and will lead someone to hell . This is also the answer if good works can save you or not .

OK! One thing is clear. You didn't read my post. My answer was obviously no.

Sorry that you missed that.

Now maybe you can answer mine.

Timberdoodle

 

[Isdaniel]

Is Daniel, If it were possible for man to keep law, then why did God become a man and sacrifice Himself as a Lamb that we might be saved? why couldn't the law do that? Step out of your zeal and think for a second. Why were the Pharisees who keep law as best they could called by Jesus a brood of vipers and blind guides and hypocrites. Just think about. The fathers had faith in the cross.

You need to read what Jesus said to them because they were not keeping the law Jesus callled them Hypocrite . Why did Jesus tell the persons he healed to go see the priest ?

 

[Isdaniel]

Can good works save you? Yes or no? The answer is no. No matter how good we are , we fall short.

What does the Word of The Lord say on this issue?

Blessings


Timberdoodle

Ezekiel 14

12 The word of the Lord came again to me, saying,
13 Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it:
14 Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord God.
15 If I cause noisome beasts to pass through the land, and they spoil it, so that it be desolate, that no man may pass through because of the beasts:
16 Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord God, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters; they only shall be delivered, but the land shall be desolate.

 

[Kerry]

The Pharisee's even had a law on the books that you could not comb your hair on the Sabbath. Because, you might comb out a grain of dirt and that would be considered work.

 

[timberdoodle]

Ezekiel 14

12 The word of the Lord came again to me, saying,
13 Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it:
14 Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord God.
15 If I cause noisome beasts to pass through the land, and they spoil it, so that it be desolate, that no man may pass through because of the beasts:
16 Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord God, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters; they only shall be delivered, but the land shall be desolate.

Are you going to answer my question or ignore it? Do good works save you?

Timberdoodle

 

[Kerry]

Is nothing like Daniel, have you ever come to the cross. Have you prayed the sinners prayer? Is Jesus the Lord of you life?

 

[Isdaniel]

Bingo. Spot on Thank you!

The idea that there is only one Sabbath is silly. The idea of Romans 14:5 is that some regarded one day over another. Others regarded all as being the same. If we think that we need to follow the Sabbath to be saved we are in serious trouble. Why? Because the Gentile community has no clue as to what following the Law really means.

Blessings

Timber

Romans 2

14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,
18 And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;
19 And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,
20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.
21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?
22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?
23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.

 

[Isdaniel]

Is nothing like Daniel, have you ever come to the cross. Have you prayed the sinners prayer? Is Jesus the Lord of you life?

What is the sinners prayer ? Is that in the bible ?

 

[timberdoodle]

Romans 2

14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,
18 And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;
19 And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,
20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.
21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?
22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?
23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.

Are you going to answer my question or not?

Timberdoodle

 

[Kerry]

What is the sinners prayer ? Is that in the bible ?

Thats what I thought. Good nite. Jesus loves you.

 

[timberdoodle]

What is the sinners prayer ? Is that in the bible ?

Yes! The sinners prayer is in the Bible but you aren't interested in that. You have neglected Romans 14:5 because you know that you cannot disagree and you have failed to answer my question on good works. Is the Lord pulling on your heat strings?

Timber

 

[Isdaniel]

Are you going to answer my question or ignore it? Do good works save you?

Timberdoodle

hmmm ironically the answer is in the above verse and also lets see i was busy looking at the post and i did not see you answer the question if evil works can cause you to lose salvation and go to hell why . before i answer your question hmmm

 

[timberdoodle]

hmmm ironically the answer is in the above verse and also lets see i was busy looking at the post and i did not see you answer the question if evil works can cause you to lose salvation and go to hell why . before i answer your question hmmm

I am looking for a respectful yes or no. Not into games or endless posts.

You tell me. I am not going to try to decipher from your posts and I do not have a magic decoder ring.

A yes or no will suffice.

Timberdoodle

 

[Isdaniel]

Yes! The sinners prayer is in the Bible but you aren't interested in that. You have neglected Romans 14:5 because you know that you cannot disagree and you have failed to answer my question on good works. Is the Lord pulling on your heat strings?

Timber

probaly your tone seems you are interestied in an arguement than a discussion , Well i did not come on the site for that . Also hmm thy emotions has so blinded you that you did not see i answered Romans 14 a long time ago .

And wher in the bible is the sinners prayer please enlighten me thanks

 

[Isdaniel]

I am looking for a respectful yes or no. Not into games or endless posts.

You tell me. I am not going to try to decipher from your posts and I do not have a magic decoder ring.

A yes or no will suffice.

Timberdoodle

I answer with the word of God

Ephesians 2


4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.


Hmm i wonder whst wre those works God want us to walk in and if we do not walk in them what works are we walkinh end hmmmm

 

[timberdoodle]

probaly your tone seems you are interestied in an arguement than a discussion , Well i did not come on the site for that . Also hmm thy emotions has so blinded you that you did not see i answered Romans 14 a long time ago .

And wher in the bible is the sinners prayer please enlighten me thanks

No! I answered your question respectfully. You have not answered mine. I do not appreciate that. Your evasiveness is understood by me as a negative. How can we have an honest discussion if you do not honestly participate.

Final chance. Are you saved by good works or not? I am not asking again. You are the one that chosen not to have a fair and balanced discussion not me. All you have done here is to avoid discussion.

Timberdoodle

 

[timberdoodle]

I answer with the word of God

Ephesians 2


4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.


Hmm i wonder whst wre those works God want us to walk in and if we do not walk in them what works are we walkinh end hmmmm

No you don't.

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost