What Laws are still valid to christians
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I do agree with the overall point, but I dont think that was the point of the verse, as He would have said "you of little/no faith/belief just as easily.
but to add to that and to show faith and works work hand in hand without both there is neither:
Hebrews 3:18-19, "And to whom did He vow that they would not enter into His rest, but to those who did not obey? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief."
Do you see how no distinction is made between disobedience and unbelief?
However the western mind makes a LARGE distinction between the 2.....
but to add to that and to show faith and works work hand in hand without both there is neither:
Hebrews 3:18-19, "And to whom did He vow that they would not enter into His rest, but to those who did not obey? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief."
Do you see how no distinction is made between disobedience and unbelief?
However the western mind makes a LARGE distinction between the 2.....
Mt 7:23 is about people think and say they follow the Messiah but they dont submit to Yahweh;s Law, unless you change the meaning of the word iniquity this is the meaning.
iniquity is:#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
iniquity is:#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
You know as well as I do that "he would have said" is no basis for objection.
And have you forgotten that disobedience is unbelief?
Did you miss their miraculous works?
Because disobedience is unbelief, they are the same Greek word, apeitheia.
Their counterfeit faith was unbelief which necessarily manifests in disobedience.
Because of their unbelief, they were disobedient workers of iniquity.
And have you forgotten that disobedience is unbelief?
Did you miss their miraculous works?
Because disobedience is unbelief, they are the same Greek word, apeitheia.
Their counterfeit faith was unbelief which necessarily manifests in disobedience.
Because of their unbelief, they were disobedient workers of iniquity.
Yaaqob 2:22 7 26, "Do you see that the faith worked together with his works, and by works the faith makes perfect?" "For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so the faith without works is dead also."
You know that is the beginning there is more, does one not have to actually do anything else Yahweh and Yahshua said....
Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."
1785. entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.
Revelation 14:12, "In this manner are the saints purified--by keeping the Laws of Yahweh, in conformity with the faith in Yahshua Messiah."
1785. entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.
Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your hneighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
You know that is the beginning there is more, does one not have to actually do anything else Yahweh and Yahshua said....
Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went to make war with those who forsook her seed; her seed being those who keep the Laws of Yahweh, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah."
1785. entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.
Revelation 14:12, "In this manner are the saints purified--by keeping the Laws of Yahweh, in conformity with the faith in Yahshua Messiah."
1785. entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.
Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your hneighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
They are the point of Mt 7:23.
These people worked miracles in the name of Christ (Jn 7:22),
they professed belief in Christ (Jn 7:21).
True faith in Christ
is the result of the new birth by the Holy Spirit,
justifies you (gives you the righteousness of God, right standing) before God,
saves you from condemnation (Jn 3:18, Ro 8:1),
gives eternal life and you can never perish (Jn 10:28-29; 6:39).
Those in Mt 7:23 never had any of these because they did not have true faith.
Without true faith, they perished as evildoers of unbelief (counterfeit faith) and disobedience.
These people worked miracles in the name of Christ (Jn 7:22),
they professed belief in Christ (Jn 7:21).
True faith in Christ
is the result of the new birth by the Holy Spirit,
justifies you (gives you the righteousness of God, right standing) before God,
saves you from condemnation (Jn 3:18, Ro 8:1),
gives eternal life and you can never perish (Jn 10:28-29; 6:39).
Those in Mt 7:23 never had any of these because they did not have true faith.
Without true faith, they perished as evildoers of unbelief (counterfeit faith) and disobedience.
Yet you completely gloss over the MEANING of the word iniquity...: "the condition of without law"
Get away from Me, you who reject Law
Get away from Me, you who are Lawless
and this doctrine matches the words of the Messiah OVER AND OVER.
Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
iniquity is:#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
I see a paradigm fantasia in may here
Get away from Me, you who reject Law
Get away from Me, you who are Lawless
and this doctrine matches the words of the Messiah OVER AND OVER.
Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
iniquity is:#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
I see a paradigm fantasia in may here
True faith includes obedience.
That is the meaning of true faith, the obedience does not have to be specified separately.
Obedience is the completing (perfecting) of, the acting out of, the expression of true faith.
That is what they did not have in Mt 7:23, they were disobedient, workers of iniquity,
which manifested their counterfeit faith.
They were condemned for the unbelief of their counterfeit faith which produced their disobedience.
That is the meaning of true faith, the obedience does not have to be specified separately.
Obedience is the completing (perfecting) of, the acting out of, the expression of true faith.
That is what they did not have in Mt 7:23, they were disobedient, workers of iniquity,
which manifested their counterfeit faith.
They were condemned for the unbelief of their counterfeit faith which produced their disobedience.
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God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, Has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, (DIVINE) whom He (FATHER)has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; Who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself (DIVINE/HUMAN) purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, Having become (AS A HUMAN) so much beter than the angels, as He (HUMAN) has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name (JESUS/LORD)than they." Heb.1:1-4 "God/Father, has (made an end of speaking) in His eternal Son. The greek word has te meaning of the final word. Meaning, there is no more speaking after Jesus got through inspiring His apostles to write down His interpretation of His minisyry. The Old t. was closed and the New was in force. There is no new revelation for us today. BUT, does thisleave room for a PERSONAL revelation to some one today? I think so.! BUT, that would be personal and not in force for anyone else. This is my opinion. I have always wished that The Father would give me a personal word at many times , but He never has, I have always had to go by the WRITTEN word of God. In the ultimate sense,it is all I need, but, in an immediate sense, I wish I had more to go by. BUT, not my will, but God's will be done. And, I will not trust the will of a man. Love to all. Hoffco
disobedience to what? their conscience? state law? j walking? catholic doctrine? their pastors words?.....
4 "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."
iniquity is being without Yahweh;s Law, that is what you are glossing over.
Messiah says He we reject those who are not subject to Yahweh's Law....and then we go in a circle and you say "His Law is to believe" according to the Messiah its more than that...
4 "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."
iniquity is being without Yahweh;s Law, that is what you are glossing over.
Messiah says He we reject those who are not subject to Yahweh's Law....and then we go in a circle and you say "His Law is to believe" according to the Messiah its more than that...