What Laws are still valid to christians

[Isdaniel]

13. Christianity tries hard to ignore Mary Magdalene, to shunt her into the role of an object lesson, but Jesus made it obvious she was an apostle, too.

Is ther a difference between an Apostle and a disciple ?

 

[Isdaniel]

Did Jesus the Mighty God baptize?

are you asking if He was baptise or if He baptise anyone

 

[wordsponge]

are you asking if He was baptise or if He baptise anyone

Let's just say that everyone, without exemption, must use the ONE law of retun.

 

[Isdaniel]

Let's just say that everyone, without exemption, must use the ONE law of retun.

John's followers became upset by Jesus' baptisms. "And they came to John and said to him, 'Rabbi, He who was with you beyond the Jordan, to whom you have testified -- behold, He is baptizing, and all are coming to Him!'" (John 3:26). John explain that this was what was supposed to happen.The Jews also took note of the baptisms. "Therefore, when the Lord knew that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John (though Jesus Himself did not baptize, but His disciples), He left Judea and departed again to Galilee" (John 4:1-3).

 

[Isdaniel]

Let's just say that everyone, without exemption, must use the ONE law of retun.

Matthew 3

13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.
14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased

 

[Isdaniel]

Let's just say that everyone, without exemption, must use the ONE law of retun.

.Just out of curiousity what is your favourite proverb and why ?

 

[wordsponge]

John's followers became upset by Jesus' baptisms. "And they came to John and said to him, 'Rabbi, He who was with you beyond the Jordan, to whom you have testified -- behold, He is baptizing, and all are coming to Him!'" (John 3:26). John explain that this was what was supposed to happen.The Jews also took note of the baptisms. "Therefore, when the Lord knew that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John (though Jesus Himself did not baptize, but His disciples), He left Judea and departed again to Galilee" (John 4:1-3).

That is what Jesus called the Strait Gate to him and his Father.

It still works and then no arguing because the Spirit is doing the identical work in each one.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

What is your favourite proverb ? why

What is your favorite question? why

 

[Isdaniel]

Let's just say that everyone, without exemption, must use the ONE law of retun.

Can one be not baptise and be saved in God's kingdom ?

 

[Isdaniel]

What is your favorite question? why

[h=3]Proverbs 26[/h]King James Version (KJV)

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Because of his faith, he was declared innocent, but was disciplined by GOD for his disobedience.

2 Samuel
13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” Nathan replied, “The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die.
14 But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for[a] the Lord, the son born to you will die.”​

 

[wordsponge]

.Just out of curiousity what is your favourite proverb and why ?

I don't have a fav. but here is an eye opener.

Prov.25
[2] It is the glory of God to conceal/ hide a thing
but the honour of kings (righteous) is to search (seek) out a matter. (by asking)
​

 

[Isdaniel]

I don't have a fav. but here is an eye opener.

Prov.25
[2] It is the glory of God to conceal/ hide a thing
but the honour of kings (righteous) is to search (seek) out a matter. (by asking)
​

my favourite is this because it is the key to answered prayers

proverbs 28

9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

 

[wordsponge]

2 Samuel
13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” Nathan replied,
“The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die.
14 But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for[a] the Lord, the son born to you will die.”
QUOTE]

My 2 cents; That was under the O.T. when the children paid for the sins of the parents.

I hate people to think that we are still there .....

 

[wordsponge]

my favourite is this because it is the key to answered prayers

proverbs 28

9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

That is ok and can still apply under the N.T.

For a non Israelite you are stuck pretty good.
Now even some of them are catching on.

If O.T. applied I would NEVER take my position.

We cannot make a fool of GOD. It turns back on us.

 

[Isdaniel]

2 Samuel
13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” Nathan replied,
“The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die.
14 But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for[a] the Lord, the son born to you will die.”
QUOTE]

My 2 cents; That was under the O.T. when the children paid for the sins of the parents.

I hate people to think that we are still there .....

Was not this in the old also

Deuteronomy 24

16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

 

[wordsponge]

Was not this in the old also

Deuteronomy 24

16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death or the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

That is a switch for you and the big 10.
Exod.20
[5] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them:
for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,
visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children
unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Jer.31
29] In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge.
[30] But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.
[31] Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:


Maybe you can help me here.

 

[Isdaniel]

That is ok and can still apply under the N.T.

For a non Israelite you are stuck pretty good.
Now even some of them are catching on.

If O.T. applied I would NEVER take my position.

We cannot make a fool of GOD. It turns back on us.[/QUOTe


According to the bible all of Gods people must be Jews and that is an spiritual Israelite

Romans 2
[SUP]25 [/SUP]For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
[SUP]27 [/SUP]And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
[SUP]28 [/SUP]For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
[SUP]29 [/SUP]But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

 

[wordsponge]

Was not this in the old also

Deuteronomy 24

16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

Honestly don't remember seeing it.

Where I am no problem.

The Divine nature take care of things.

All gifts no boasting BUT happily singing out the praises...

 

[Isdaniel]

That is a switch for you and the big 10.
Exod.20
[5] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them:
for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God,
visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children
unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Jer.31
29] In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge.
[30] But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.
[31] Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:


Maybe you can help me here.

Ezikiel 18


10 If he beget a son that is a robber, a shedder of blood, and that doeth the like to any one of these things,
11 And that doeth not any of those duties, but even hath eaten upon the mountains, and defiled his neighbour's wife,
12 Hath oppressed the poor and needy, hath spoiled by violence, hath not restored the pledge, and hath lifted up his eyes to the idols, hath committed abomination,
13 Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.
14 Now, lo, if he beget a son, that seeth all his father's sins which he hath done, and considereth, and doeth not such like,
15 That hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, hath not defiled his neighbour's wife,
16 Neither hath oppressed any, hath not withholden the pledge, neither hath spoiled by violence, but hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment,
17 That hath taken off his hand from the poor, that hath not received usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live.
18 As for his father, because he cruelly oppressed, spoiled his brother by violence, and did that which is not good among his people, lo, even he shall die in his iniquity.
19 Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live.
20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.