Is Man Capable of Translating the Bible?
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The point is, the things you're scoffing at and claiming don't exist... you're falling for. You quote C.S. Lewis and he follows the same religion that Michael Angelo follows. Asland was the roaring lion seeking whom he may devour... but most Christians think represents Jesus. Because they have absolutely no discernment.
Acts 20:30Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.
Matthew 23:13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
Matthew 23:15“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.
John 16:13But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
Revelation 22:6 The angel said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place.”
Matthew 23:13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
Matthew 23:15“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.
John 16:13But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
Revelation 22:6 The angel said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place.”
Oh, but your wrong! Aslan is all over the King James Bible.
1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
The difference between you and I is that I recognize Aslan for who he is. Aslan told you that "earring" should be translated as "nose ring" and you believed him.
1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
The difference between you and I is that I recognize Aslan for who he is. Aslan told you that "earring" should be translated as "nose ring" and you believed him.
If your assertion is true, then the KJV is, by your standard, not inerrant. There are several occasions where the side-notes explain the meaning in the original language.
1 Sam 10:24 And Samuel said to all the people, See ye him whome the Lord hath chosen, that there is none like him among all the people? And all the people shouted, and saide, * God saue the King.
1 Sam 10:24 side note reference: Heb. let the king liue
That means, according to the KJV translators, this is the actual correct reading ("translated the same way they were originally written")
1 Sam 10:24 And Samuel said to all the people, See ye him whome the Lord hath chosen, that there is none like him among all the people? And all the people shouted, and saide, let the king liue.
1 Sam 10:24 And Samuel said to all the people, See ye him whome the Lord hath chosen, that there is none like him among all the people? And all the people shouted, and saide, * God saue the King.
1 Sam 10:24 side note reference: Heb. let the king liue
That means, according to the KJV translators, this is the actual correct reading ("translated the same way they were originally written")
1 Sam 10:24 And Samuel said to all the people, See ye him whome the Lord hath chosen, that there is none like him among all the people? And all the people shouted, and saide, let the king liue.
Hi Praus, It is my assertion that every word in the KJV came from God. Holy men of God wrote down what the Holy Spirit guided them to write. I never said the KJV was a direct translation from the copies of the originals. There are many places in the KJV where same Greek or Hebrew word was translated into different English words. God wrote the KJV for this English speaking group living at this time history.
Actually the reasons in this case are pretty clear and it's from King James not from God.
-> History of the King James Version
Which is exactly what the KJV translators did:
1 Sam 10:24 And Samuel said to al the people: See ye not him whom the Lorde hath chosen, and howe there is none lyke him among all the people? And all the people showted, and sayd: God saue the king.
You wrote:
That's the topic--cherish every single word of God and if worlds aren't in the Hebrew then that's an inerrancy issue.
That's known as lazy translation--it's a different issue and in my opinion that's what makes it less useful as a study Bible.
I use the KJV every day and I don't live in their "time history".
-> History of the King James Version
Which is exactly what the KJV translators did:
1 Sam 10:24 And Samuel said to al the people: See ye not him whom the Lorde hath chosen, and howe there is none lyke him among all the people? And all the people showted, and sayd: God saue the king.
You wrote:
That's the topic--cherish every single word of God and if worlds aren't in the Hebrew then that's an inerrancy issue.
That's known as lazy translation--it's a different issue and in my opinion that's what makes it less useful as a study Bible.
I use the KJV every day and I don't live in their "time history".
I haven't read all of this thread, but I do have a comment.
Natural man is not capable of translating anything into truth let alone the scriptures. But, Spiritual man, guided and taught by Holy Spirit will "see" and 'hear" "what saith the Lord".
Natural man is not capable of translating anything into truth let alone the scriptures. But, Spiritual man, guided and taught by Holy Spirit will "see" and 'hear" "what saith the Lord".
Thou respondeth to thy own posts now? Indeed, ....
A more literal translation can be found in the 1394 Wycliffe Bible:
1 Sam 10:24 And Samuel seide to al the puple, Certis ye seen whom the Lord hath chose; for noon in al the puple is lijk hym. And al the puple cryede, and seide, Lyue the kyng!
I'll quote myself:
So "live...", "let live...", even "long live the king" are good translations. The word "God" just isn't in there. This isn't a problem for those who still use the 1611 KJV but that's a fairly small minority.
This one's really nice--Latin typeface and has apocrypha -> Hendrickson.com - KJV Bible�1611 Edition
Indeed, ....A more literal translation can be found in the 1394 Wycliffe Bible:
1 Sam 10:24 And Samuel seide to al the puple, Certis ye seen whom the Lord hath chose; for noon in al the puple is lijk hym. And al the puple cryede, and seide, Lyue the kyng!
I'll quote myself:
So "live...", "let live...", even "long live the king" are good translations. The word "God" just isn't in there. This isn't a problem for those who still use the 1611 KJV but that's a fairly small minority.
This one's really nice--Latin typeface and has apocrypha -> Hendrickson.com - KJV Bible�1611 Edition
When the Holy Spirit's teaching is firmly restricted to "holy men" translating and interpreting the Word of Yahweh, all who believe the Only Begotten Son of Yahweh are excluded as being capable of learning enough to be living in the grace of the Blood of the Lamb, and we know we are all taught by the Holy Spirit, all, no exceptions among the saved.
The Holy Spirit is the only vehicle of God Who gives understanding to any believer, be it through a gifted teacher, reading or however the Father chooses for each to learn, it is of the Holy Spirit. Let us not fall into debauched, elitist intellectualism, for what is knowledge contained in this age will burn in the fire next time.
The Holy Spirit is the only vehicle of God Who gives understanding to any believer, be it through a gifted teacher, reading or however the Father chooses for each to learn, it is of the Holy Spirit. Let us not fall into debauched, elitist intellectualism, for what is knowledge contained in this age will burn in the fire next time.