Women and teaching in the church

[Imperfect]

It comes down to what's being done, as, like banananapie said, sometimes, in a church that needs a pastor to come forth none comes forth, none wants to wear 'the pants.'

So, God PUTS a woman in charger of the pastor role in a church and she does a FINE job, I'll add and she has 'fruit' becoming huge, big, ripe, dropping all over the place ; why, ALAS!, is this working out, green!!!

Because, my young grasshoppers, she has been CALLED by the Lord, just as I said in my last post, just as mystydancer's said in one of her posts.


The Lord leads. "...you follow Me." John 21:22

i have a hard time accepting this as this would make the Lord contradicting in His teachings.

also, your avatar.. that monster logo, thats really "666" in hebrew.

 

[KohenMatt]

also, your avatar.. that monster logo, thats really "666" in hebrew.

Uh-oh!! The makers of Monster Energy Drinks are the Anti-Christ, and anyone who drinks them is taking the mark of the Beast!

 

[Gjolll]

When women are pressed into that service it is always because the men are too weak to fulfill their given ministry and they are an embarrassment to God.

You're saying that a woman leading a church is not an embarrassment to God? Hey, if I walked into a church where a woman was taking the service, I'd walk straight back out again, as I have done on some occasions.

 

[GreenNnice]

And, I've never said that Scripture lies, imperfectperfection, as you allude--and do you like putting words in peoples mouths as you were being said to be doing that to mystydancer if I'm not mistaken -- , I simply said that oleherm is not telling the Truth.

Make sense ?


And, let's get this straight, I believe, that women should not seek after becoming pastors unless they hear from God that they are to 'wear the pants,' that is, there is no man that is coming to the plate to pastor a church that has no pastor, or, similar.

Do I think women should preach to men and teach men of Christ as a general rule in the church? No.

But, can a woman be called to be a teacher or pastor to a church that men are in to? Absolutely. The Lord's ways are not our ways nor His thoughts our thoughts.

The way to tell if that woman pastor is doing what the Lord's called of her, that only SHE and God know is her calling, is by the fruit of her ministry, what is happening with the church membership, what is happening with the missionary program? ARe they growing in number?

I also think, a man should, eventually, step forward and lead that church the woman has put back on it's feet, from an 'unfruitful' state it had become before she became pastor of the church and the deadness of it became ALIVE !

But, that's not necessary either, the Lord leads, she can stay pastor if she's still feeling called and still producing fruit .

 

[Imperfect]

side note:

people seem to forget that it was prophesied that satan would make his way into the church.. you know.. how they do things and how they function. this woman pastor thing is not pro-Gospel.

add that to Gjolll posts, and the picture is pretty clear.

 

[mystdancer50]

It's a fact that most "churches" with women pastors are libertine. They have no morals, because women cannot enforce morality. That is to say, they will also admit homosexuals etc.

Women cannot enforce morality? Wow. All kids of single moms are doomed!

That is most insane statement I've read in this thread, and that's saying a lot.

 

[BananaPie]

Do you not know the difference between circular logic and punctuated logic?

I don't the difference. What's the answer to the difference I don't know, yet? ...but I'll get to know the difference once you tell me the answer, so what's the difference because I don't know the answer...?

 

[mystdancer50]

which is exactly why you refuse to believe the scripture as they are. you have to twist them in ways to favor women when it clearly states women to be submissive to men and to learn in silence and not preach.

you are displaying a pride issue. you feel that the way God left it is belittling to women, when its not. so what do you do when you feel belittled, you rebel and display your pride.

didnt God tell us to humble ourselves and keep our eyes on Him and heavenly things? so why are you so proud of this life. you are serving God 1st and foremost.

Yay! You've pulled a sentence out of context again!

 

[mystdancer50]

The bible teaches that women cannot lead churches. This is born out by experience. In the UK, every apostate denomination has women priests. When the church of England adopted legislation for women priests in 1984, one of the UK's largest Cathedrals, York Minister, was struck by lightning and largely destroyed. It was verily the beginning of the end. Now the CofE is trying to be nice to unrepentant homosexuals, as if they were going to stop the rapidly declining numbers.

The Methodists who have long admitted women priests, also tolerate practicing homosexuals as priests. There have been some scandals recently about Methodist priests also taking hard drugs.

Believe me, when women get in control of churches, it's the end.

Right. No male preachers have ever practiced apostasy, homosexuality, false doctrines, had affairs or conducted spousal abuse. No male pastors have welcomed blatant sin in their congregation under false grace or refused to address sin in their own lives or the lives of their elders and ministry leaders. Only women fail. Men are perfect. I forgot about this.

 

[Imperfect]

Women cannot enforce morality? Wow. All kids of single moms are doomed!

That is most insane statement I've read in this thread, and that's saying a lot.

well, single mothers DO raise the most convicts....

 

[Imperfect]

Yay! You've pulled a sentence out of context again!

no. i just comment on the silly things you say.

and the last context i quoted was what your post was about. so .... calm your horses, woman. sit down and silence, please. raise your hand if you want to speak.

 

[GreenNnice]

well, single mothers DO raise the most convicts....

Maybe, you should take a break from this thread.

That comment is atrocious.

 

[Gjolll]

Right. No male preachers have ever practiced apostasy, homosexuality, false doctrines, had affairs or conducted spousal abuse. No male pastors have welcomed blatant sin in their congregation under false grace or refused to address sin in their own lives or the lives of their elders and ministry leaders. Only women fail. Men are perfect. I forgot about this.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Of course there are many scandals in Trinitarian churches. That's inevitable.

However, you will observe that there are far less scandals in churches like the Free Presbyterians which enforce the rules on women speaking and headcoverings, than in denominations in which women play a prominent part.

 

[mystdancer50]

well, single mothers DO raise the most convicts....

Oh my gosh. You have lost your mind. Who is responsible for your actions? Gasp! You are! That's right. They didn't raise convicts. A convict is someone who CHOOSES to break the law. Otherwise, if it were the mom's fault, she'd be in jail.

And this is what is wrong with the world. No one admits it's their actions that lead to their consequences. It's not society or their upbringing. You make the ultimate choices of what you will and will not do.

 

[The_highwayman]

1 Timothy 2:12

Where are the words pastor, preacher, or preach?

 

[GreenNnice]

Two wrongs don't make a right. Of course there are many scandals in Trinitarian churches. That's inevitable.

However, you will observe that there are far less scandals in churches like the Free Presbyerians which enforce the rules on women speaking and headcoverings, that in denominations in which women play a prominent part.

OH, that changes everything

 

[Imperfect]

Maybe, you should take a break from this thread.

That comment is atrocious.

is it atrocious?
or do you not like the fact that i stated a fact and found the fact insulting for nullifying her sarcasm.

 

[Imperfect]

Oh my gosh. You have lost your mind. Who is responsible for your actions? Gasp! You are! That's right. They didn't raise convicts. A convict is someone who CHOOSES to break the law. Otherwise, if it were the mom's fault, she'd be in jail.

And this is what is wrong with the world. No one admits it's their actions that lead to their consequences. It's not society or their upbringing. You make the ultimate choices of what you will and will not do.

stop it. you are speaking out of turn again.

you get lost in your rubbish and spread it on here. and thats bad. stop it.

 

[mystdancer50]

stop it. you are speaking out of turn again.

you get lost in your rubbish and spread it on here. and thats bad. stop it.

"Hi, pot. I'm kettle. You're black." Maybe you should take your own advice at times, hmmm?

 

[Imperfect]

"Hi, pot. I'm kettle. You're black." Maybe you should take your own advice at times, hmmm?

that was a good 1. very original.

nothing you say is inspired by scripture or even facts for that matter. its opinions. have a seat.

welcome to my ignore list.