For Sabbath keepers, How does obedience to the Sabbath affect your Salvation?

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For Sabbath keepers, How does obedience to the Sabbath affect your Salvation


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Karraster

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If you believe that all things created was created through Christ, then you must realize the finger of God that wrote the ten commandments was written by Christ Himself. He said He had not come to abolish the law but to magnify it.

In Genesis they kept the Sabbath rest.
After God delivered the Israelites and before the 10 commandments was written on stone, they kept the sabbath rest.
All thru the Bible, God commanded to keep the 4th commandment along with the others.
The apostles kept the 7th day holy, even after Christ was crucified. They even left off embalming the Savior to observe the Sabbath.
Jesus kept the sabbath.

It's the only one of the ten commandments that starts with remember. If that doesn't get your attention........

I believe in our Savior and that He is the only way to God. Jesus said if you love Him you will keep His commandments.

The history of the world is Satan trying to deceive. Not keeping the sabbath is but 1 of his great accomplishments.

I urge everyone to search the scripture for themselves. Don't let pride stand in the way of finding the truth. The law convicts us of sin, it is boundaries that were delivered to us with love, because God is love. To say we have no boundaries anymore makes a mockery of Christ crucified. He did not suffer and die so that we may sin. Read the New testament praying for sight. The New testament proves the 4th commandment is still to be obeyed.

Read Revelation. The conflict is about who we worship. God said to worship Him on the Holy Day He created for us to worship Him. Do it and live.
 
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Exodus 12:49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

The difference is how they were recorded
Exodus 24:12

King James Version (KJV)

12 And the Lord said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.


Deuteronomy 31:9

King James Version (KJV)

9 And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it unto the priests the sons of Levi, which bare the ark of the covenant of the Lord, and unto all the elders of Israel.
 
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chubbena

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hang on...what were the jews doing at synagogue on the sabbath?

Exodus 16
22On the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers each. And when all the leaders of the congregation came and told Moses, 23he said to them, “This is what the LORD has commanded: ‘Tomorrow is a day of solemn rest, a holy Sabbath to the LORD; bake what you will bake and boil what you will boil, and all that is left over lay aside to be kept till the morning.’” 24So they laid it aside till the morning, as Moses commanded them, and it did not stink, and there were no worms in it. 25Moses said, “Eat it today, for today is a Sabbath to the LORD; today you will not find it in the field. 26Six days you shall gather it, but on the seventh day, which is a Sabbath, there will be none.”

27On the seventh day some of the people went out to gather, but they found none. 28And the LORD said to Moses, “How long will you refuse to keep my commandments and my laws? 29 See! The LORD has given you the Sabbath; therefore on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Remain each of you in his place; let no one go out of his place on the seventh day.” 30 So the people rested on the seventh day.
Yet another proof of letter of the law kills.
 
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chubbena

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uh....the subject was the resurrection.
with THAT they found no fault.

like are you for real?
The Pharisees who rejected Christ and all Paul's (supposedly contrary doctrines) say "yo, he's all good, we find no fault CUZ he keeps the sabbath?"

professional cherry-pickers.

you're good to go though:) - your savior is not a crucified and risen Christ WHO IS REST, no it is a day of the week.
That's a good example of false accusation
 
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If you believe that all things created was created through Christ, then you must realize the finger of God that wrote the ten commandments was written by Christ Himself. He said He had not come to abolish the law but to magnify it.

In Genesis they kept the Sabbath rest.
After God delivered the Israelites and before the 10 commandments was written on stone, they kept the sabbath rest.
All thru the Bible, God commanded to keep the 4th commandment along with the others.
The apostles kept the 7th day holy, even after Christ was crucified. They even left off embalming the Savior to observe the Sabbath.
Jesus kept the sabbath.

It's the only one of the ten commandments that starts with remember. If that doesn't get your attention........

I believe in our Savior and that He is the only way to God. Jesus said if you love Him you will keep His commandments.

The history of the world is Satan trying to deceive. Not keeping the sabbath is but 1 of his great accomplishments.

I urge everyone to search the scripture for themselves. Don't let pride stand in the way of finding the truth. The law convicts us of sin, it is boundaries that were delivered to us with love, because God is love. To say we have no boundaries anymore makes a mockery of Christ crucified. He did not suffer and die so that we may sin. Read the New testament praying for sight. The New testament proves the 4th commandment is still to be obeyed.

Read Revelation. The conflict is about who we worship. God said to worship Him on the Holy Day He created for us to worship Him. Do it and live.
Here, this will help people in their studies. It's so simple a child can understand it

And this is [GOD's] commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1 John 3:23

Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God: that you believe into the one whom that one sent.” John 6:29

​Owe nothing to anyone, except to love one another, for the one who loves someone else has fulfilled the law. Romans 13:8
Love does not commit evil against a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Romans 13:10
For the whole law is fulfilled in one statement, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Galatians 5:14​
 
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hang on...what were the jews doing at synagogue on the sabbath?

Exodus 16
22On the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers each. And when all the leaders of the congregation came and told Moses, 23he said to them, “This is what the LORD has commanded: ‘Tomorrow is a day of solemn rest, a holy Sabbath to the LORD; bake what you will bake and boil what you will boil, and all that is left over lay aside to be kept till the morning.’” 24So they laid it aside till the morning, as Moses commanded them, and it did not stink, and there were no worms in it. 25Moses said, “Eat it today, for today is a Sabbath to the LORD; today you will not find it in the field. 26Six days you shall gather it, but on the seventh day, which is a Sabbath, there will be none.”

27On the seventh day some of the people went out to gather, but they found none. 28And the LORD said to Moses, “How long will you refuse to keep my commandments and my laws? 29 See! The LORD has given you the Sabbath; therefore on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Remain each of you in his place; let no one go out of his place on the seventh day.” 30 So the people rested on the seventh day.

how a foolish reasoning to prove what hmmm are you saying they could not go out at all on the sabbath back then lets see


if they had to do you know do #2or one hmmmm what were they to do saty in the tent and do it or was there a desinated place to do such
 
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chubbena

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If you are looking for everything to be plain and simply stated on everything, then the Bible and the New Testament are silent about much.

If you have some discernment, then the Bible has much to say
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The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. (Psalm 19:7)

To give subtlety to the simple...(Proverbs 1:4)

In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight. (Luke 10:21)

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. (Hebrews 5:14)
Psalm 1, 19, 119 bear witnesses to his law. Guess the psalmist never knew the freedom in Christ and thus held on to all they'd got. Stupid legalist! :)
 
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Here, this will help people in their studies. It's so simple a child can understand it

And this is [GOD's] commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1 John 3:23

Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God: that you believe into the one whom that one sent.” John 6:29

​Owe nothing to anyone, except to love one another, for the one who loves someone else has fulfilled the law. Romans 13:8
Love does not commit evil against a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Romans 13:10
For the whole law is fulfilled in one statement, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Galatians 5:14​
i think you forgot this part so i help also hmmmmm did you notice that the first 4 commandmenst are not there neither is honouring your parenst hmmmmmm just a thought
Romans 13:9

King James Version (KJV)

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


these command all sum up to saying love your neighbour as thy self hmmmmmm they some up to that
 
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chubbena

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Yes it does. That's why law cultists cherry pick the law to suit their needs and their imagined level of obedience.
It just so happened the law cultists listen to Christ and know the true meaning of Sabbath. You don't see any good in the law and what does it make you?
 
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i think you forgot this part so i help also hmmmmm did you notice that the first 4 commandmenst are not there neither is honouring your parenst hmmmmmm just a thought
Romans 13:9

King James Version (KJV)

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


these command all sum up to saying love your neighbour as thy self hmmmmmm they some up to that
The first four commandments are fulfilled by this:

And this is [GOD's] commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1 John 3:23

Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God: that you believe into the one whom that one sent.” John 6:29​

Abiding in GOD's love through faith produces love for others. Therefore, love fulfills all of the law.
 
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chubbena

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how a foolish reasoning to prove what hmmm are you saying they could not go out at all on the sabbath back then lets see


if they had to do you know do #2or one hmmmm what were they to do saty in the tent and do it or was there a desinated place to do such
Don't call it foolish reasoning when someone is taking the law to a different level which no one can bear....
 
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It just so happened the law cultists listen to Christ and know the true meaning of Sabbath. You don't see any good in the law and what does it make you?
You're just full of false characterizations. I love GOD's law. But unlike law cultists, I know how to use the law lawfully.

We know that the law is good if a man uses it lawfully knowing that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, ... and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine. 1 Timothy 1:8-10​
 

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Exactly what do people think the Sabbath of the Lord is? Hint: it is a shadow and a clue to something yet unfulfilled.
 
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Don't call it foolish reasoning when someone is taking the law to a different level which no one can bear....
You mean like Peter?

So now why are you putting God to the test by placing on the neck of the disciples a yoke [of circumcision that binds them to the law of Moses] that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? But we believe we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus in the same way those also are.” Acts 15:10-11​
 
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The first four commandments are fulfilled by this:

And this is [GOD's] commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1 John 3:23

Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God: that you believe into the one whom that one sent.” John 6:29​


Abiding in GOD's love through faith produces love for others. Therefore, love fulfills all of the law.

no my friend lets stay with romans 13 ok lets not jump here and there
 
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You're just full of false characterizations. I love GOD's law. But unlike law cultists, I know how to use the law lawfully.

We know that the law is good if a man uses it lawfully knowing that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, ... and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine. 1 Timothy 1:8-10​

This is where you condem yourown self the righteous man walk in the law of liberty while the unrighteous is under the law thatis the penalty for not keeping the law

yeah i am waiting for your follow up questions what happens when the righteous breaks the law hmmmmm let me have them hmmmm
 
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Don't call it foolish reasoning when someone is taking the law to a different level which no one can bear....
i dont understand hmmm it seem Zone is in their own Zone no where in the bible says do not go out on the sabbath no where

exodus 16 is one thought which means do not go out to gather on the sabbath hmmmm
 
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You're just full of false characterizations. I love GOD's law. But unlike law cultists, I know how to use the law lawfully.

We know that the law is good if a man uses it lawfully knowing that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, ... and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine. 1 Timothy 1:8-10​

you donot becaus e you teach others to break law hmmmm By force they will keep it in the 1000 yrs hmmmmmm Sabbath especially hmmm No more Sunday worship hmmmmm
 
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Karraster

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Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.



all who worship the Almighty will worship this way for eternity.