For Sabbath keepers, How does obedience to the Sabbath affect your Salvation?
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This is nonsensical. If someone is free from the penalty of a law, the law is powerless, and therefore irrelevant as law. If one is free from the law itself, it has no authority over the person, and again it is powerless, and therefore irrelevant as law. A law only has relevance as law when it has authority over a person to inflict the designated penalty against those who break the law.
just wanted to add this scripture[h=3]Galatians 3:21[/h]King James Version (KJV)
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
for those that voted... the sabbath must be kept in order to be saved, i don't know where you got that belief from but examine yourselves weather you in be faith with God or not
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
for those that voted... the sabbath must be kept in order to be saved, i don't know where you got that belief from but examine yourselves weather you in be faith with God or not
You forgot this hmm Was the ten commanments 413 years old with the covenant of Abraham
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
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The Sabbath
Was on a Saturday, we still have Saturday, but the commandment to keep it holy was abolished.
"And he said unto them, This is that which the Lord hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the Lord: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning. And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein. And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the Lord: to day ye shall not find it in the field. Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none."
The above is how they kept the sabbath holy, how many of you keep it holy?
Was on a Saturday, we still have Saturday, but the commandment to keep it holy was abolished.
"And he said unto them, This is that which the Lord hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the Lord: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning. And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein. And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the Lord: to day ye shall not find it in the field. Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none."
The above is how they kept the sabbath holy, how many of you keep it holy?
H
Righteous didn't come by the Law of Moses. Isaiah 51:6 Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be abolished.
you are so caught up on not keeping the law that when you see law you think ten commandments to note the ten commadments existed from the and that is sad
point to note the ten commandments were not 430 years that should
God mad a coveannt with Abraham a nd his seed will be 400 years in bondage hmmm you can start from there
it really sad wheather you want to keep sabbathor not do not use scripture to support your false claim 430 years is the clue
point to note the ten commandments were not 430 years that should
God mad a coveannt with Abraham a nd his seed will be 400 years in bondage hmmm you can start from there
it really sad wheather you want to keep sabbathor not do not use scripture to support your false claim 430 years is the clue
I hear many say that we are led by the Spirit now and that some of what God had written is in the past and shouldn't be considered meaning the law. God endorsed the Sabbath to share with others, (which is a sacrifice in itself) and to meditate on His greatness. Is the Sabbath Saturday or Sunday? My answer would be, "does it matter? Seven will always be seven. Even more, there are Sabbath feasts we should recognize by, and through the Spirit of God. What time of year they are, and what day of the month they are, most people don't know, not even Jewish Rabbis, it's all just an estimate. With that said, the Sabbath should be in our heart 24/7. There are really only 3 feasts in my life as God has ordained. The feasts are called " don't add to God's original will, with an attitude of self denial" and that's called the feast of unleavened bread. The feast of weeks is for the gathering of harvest, and ingesting the fruit of the Spirit, but the laborers are very few now days. and then there is a time to remember His mercy and grace with the feast of tabernacles, that includes meditation of all that God Has ever done and the hope of tomorrow. These are Sabbaths along with entering into His rest. Do I go in and out of His rest? No, because I submit to His call to present myself a living sacrifice, and really want to die daily. With that said, if God is Spirit, what's the difference between what He gave to Moses, and what He sent at Pentecost? Get real people.
Please show where the Apostles ever wrote to the Gentiles on HOW to keep the Sabbath despite the fact that there is a MAJOR cultural DIFFERENCE between the Jews and the Romans on HOW they marked the beginning of the days. The Roman's day starts at MIDNIGHT NOT sunset. Why didn't they lay it out on HOW the Sabbath was to be kept by the Gentiles? That should be one of the things that they should have pointed out was the difference in marking the start of a new day. It is NOT the same,yet not once do ANY of the apostles make note of that at ALL. It's NOT there for a reason. It's left out for the very same reasons other of the Mosaic laws are not included. IT'S A CEREMONIAL LAW. They were to observe something on that day just the same as the rest of the ceremonial laws,in which all pointed to Christ.
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The law was until John, Jesus came and was fulling the law and they were pressing into the kingdom. Who was the remnant that was prepared for Jesus? Was John's baptism of the Law of Moses? Danial prophesied that Israel would be left desolate, their sacrifice and the oblation would cease. What was the oblation? Danial 9:27
Ezekiel 6:6-8 In all your dwelling places the cities shall be laid waste, and the high places shall be desolate; that your altars may be laid waste and made desolate, and your idols may be broken and cease, and your images may be cut down, and your works may be abolished. And the slain shall fall in the midst of you, and ye shall know that I am the Lord. Yet will I leave a remnant, that ye may have some that shall escape the sword among the nations, when ye shall be scattered through the countries.
Ezekiel 6:6-8 In all your dwelling places the cities shall be laid waste, and the high places shall be desolate; that your altars may be laid waste and made desolate, and your idols may be broken and cease, and your images may be cut down, and your works may be abolished. And the slain shall fall in the midst of you, and ye shall know that I am the Lord. Yet will I leave a remnant, that ye may have some that shall escape the sword among the nations, when ye shall be scattered through the countries.