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it doesnt say "who are subject to Law"
but there is a verse that talks about being subject to Yahweh's Law, or actually not being subject to it:
Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
iniquity is:#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
but there is a verse that talks about being subject to Yahweh's Law, or actually not being subject to it:
Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
iniquity is:#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
Is following the Law of God opposing to grace? What did Paul mean when he accused the Galatians of falling from grace? What did they do? How does our Savior become of no effect? Ga 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Since Galatians is a letter , not a single verse written with a specific context, we should determine and that for our understanding. Galatians were being falsely taught to keep God’s Law for salvation.
False teachers (“Circumcision Party” - Ga 2:7-12; 5:12 and “Works of Law” - Ga 2:16;3:2;3:5;3:10) began promoting their doctrine (“oral law”) which required Gentiles to be circumcised in a certain way to be justified for salvation (saved).
Ga 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law , but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified .
This theme continues throughout Galatians (i.e. Ga 2:21; 3:2; 3:3; 3:5; 3:11; 5:4).
“Works of Law” Qumran document 4QMMT (4Q394-5) gives us some insight into a Jewish sect in the first century, called “Works of Law.” The Jewish Works of Law believed many things that were contrary to God’s Law and also taught that Gentiles could not be saved. They were not living God’s Law in faith, but living their own invented law - which was a twisted form of God’s Law and a similar practice of the 6 sects of the Pharisees.
Their doctrine was very similar to those of the Circumcision Party. This would be why Galatians 6:13 states that this group, which is supposedly teaching God’s Law for salvation, but does not even keep God’s Law themselves.
“Circumcision Party” The Jewish sect of the “Circumcision Party” appears in Acts 10:45;11:2; 15; Ga 2:7-12 Ga 5:12; Eph. 2:11; Titus 1:10. This knowledge makes this verse become more clear: Ga 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law from grace . ; ye are fallen Trying to be justified by the law is the same as falling from grace.
We are justified into salvation by grace through faith, not by obedience to the Law of God. Does that mean we are to not be obedient to the "law of God" in our faith? No, of course not. Paul also wrote: Ro 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid : yea, we establish the law. Ro 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Ro 7:22 For I delight in the "law of God" after the inward man:
Ro 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the "law of sin" which is in my members. Y'shua (Jesus) even said: Mt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law , or the prophets: I do not come to destroy, but to fulfill (with meaning). Mt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all (law and prophets) be fulfilled. Mt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments , and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven : but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven .
Y'shua (Jesus) stated that not one of God’s commandments was to be “abolished” or “put an end to” until all of the Law and Prophets are fulfilled and Heaven and earth pass away. Heaven and earth passing away by being made new is the last prophetic event foretold in scripture. Isaiah 65:17 "Behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth . The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind. Revelation 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth , for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away , Please note that this event has clearly not yet happened.
Y'shua (Jesus) states that all of God’s Law will exist at LEAST UNTIL the day that the Lord states: Revelation 21:5-6 He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new !" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true." He said to me: "It is done. the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I am the Alpha and Christ’s work on the cross for our salvation is finished (John 19:30), but the Lord is not yet finished with what has been said in all of His Law and Prophets until He says, “It is done.” This statement is signaled by the new Heaven and New Earth. If this scripture is true, then what scriptural gymnastics do some teachers employ to avoid such a conclusion? Well, if they touch the verse at all, it creates quite an embarrassing mess. Some teach that in Matthew 5:1, fulfill means “to put and end to” or to “finish.” This is done (by their own admission) to avoid the clear teaching of Jesus that not one of God’s commandments are to pass away from the law. This also preserves their misinterpretations of Paul’s letters. If this interpretation is indeed true, we should be able to apply such teaching to scripture, and it should make logical sense - as God is not the author of confusion. We are commanded to test all things and only hold on to what is good (1 Thes. 5:20).
Let’s test the teaching that “fulfill” means “to put and end to” or “finish”, instead of the theory that “fulfill” simply means to “fill up the whole and complete meaning” of God’s Law. Can “fulfill” in Mt 5:17 mean “to put an end to".
Mt 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I do not come to destroy (the law), but to “put and end Huh? (to the law") Mt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law , till all (law and prophets) be fulfilled. Double huh? Mt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments (that I just put an end to), and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven : but whosoever shall do and teach them (even though I put an end to them), the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven . Triple huh?
There are only two possible interpretations of “fulfill” in Matthew 5:17.
1) One is that Y'shua (Jesus) came to “fulfill the real meaning of God’s law” which the Pharisees polluted through their oral law. This makes sense because anytime Y’shua (Jesus) was around the Pharisees, this was precisely the point and purpose of all of His teachings. Y’shua was the walking Torah taught us how to correctly walk the way God wants us to walk in His law, and not the way men want us to walk in God’s law.
2) The second is that “fulfill” in Matthew 5:17 means to “complete, finish, or put an end to.” All one has to do is insert that definition into the context of the scripture to witness how such an interpretation is illogical and absurd. A literal rendering of the Greek, technically accepts either interpretation. G4137 pleroo play-ro'-o from G4134; to make replete, i.e. (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow), or (figuratively) to furnish (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc.:--accomplish, X after, (be) complete, end, expire, fill (up), fulfil, (be, make) full fully preach, perfect , supply. (Strong's) (come), The only interpretation of “fulfill” that fits the context and avoids logical absurdities is the one in which Jesus is teaching that He will make full or fully preach God’s law. Y'shua (Jesus) came to fully preach and teach us the full meaning of God’s law.
The Galatians made the mistake of applying the false doctrine which taught that they must be circumcised for salvation. This is legalism, not simple obedience.
1Ti 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; We know that they were incorrectly using the "law of God" lawfully, but incorrectly. We are to keep the Law of God to express our love back to Him, not to try to earn salvation.
John 14:15 “If ye love me, keep my commandments .”
John 14:21 “He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me : and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.”
John 14:23-24 “Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words : and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loves me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.”
John 15:10 “If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love ; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.”
1 John 2:4-5 “He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.”
1 John 5:3 “For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments : and his commandments are not grievous .”
2nd John 1:6 “And this is love, that we walk after his commandments .” We are to be obedient to the Law of God because of our salvation not for our salvation.
1Jn 4:19 We love him (obedience), because he first loved us (grace).
Obedience is simply the evidence of our faith (James 2:26). Paul was simply trying to bring the Galatians back into God’s grace through faith and teach against the error of using the Law of God for salvation. Nowhere in all of Galatians does Paul teach that we should not keep the Law of God in obedience. If he did, he would be contradicting himself, Y'shua (Jesus), and countless other verses in Scripture.
Since Galatians is a letter , not a single verse written with a specific context, we should determine and that for our understanding. Galatians were being falsely taught to keep God’s Law for salvation.
False teachers (“Circumcision Party” - Ga 2:7-12; 5:12 and “Works of Law” - Ga 2:16;3:2;3:5;3:10) began promoting their doctrine (“oral law”) which required Gentiles to be circumcised in a certain way to be justified for salvation (saved).
Ga 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law , but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified .
This theme continues throughout Galatians (i.e. Ga 2:21; 3:2; 3:3; 3:5; 3:11; 5:4).
“Works of Law” Qumran document 4QMMT (4Q394-5) gives us some insight into a Jewish sect in the first century, called “Works of Law.” The Jewish Works of Law believed many things that were contrary to God’s Law and also taught that Gentiles could not be saved. They were not living God’s Law in faith, but living their own invented law - which was a twisted form of God’s Law and a similar practice of the 6 sects of the Pharisees.
Their doctrine was very similar to those of the Circumcision Party. This would be why Galatians 6:13 states that this group, which is supposedly teaching God’s Law for salvation, but does not even keep God’s Law themselves.
“Circumcision Party” The Jewish sect of the “Circumcision Party” appears in Acts 10:45;11:2; 15; Ga 2:7-12 Ga 5:12; Eph. 2:11; Titus 1:10. This knowledge makes this verse become more clear: Ga 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law from grace . ; ye are fallen Trying to be justified by the law is the same as falling from grace.
We are justified into salvation by grace through faith, not by obedience to the Law of God. Does that mean we are to not be obedient to the "law of God" in our faith? No, of course not. Paul also wrote: Ro 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid : yea, we establish the law. Ro 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Ro 7:22 For I delight in the "law of God" after the inward man:
Ro 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the "law of sin" which is in my members. Y'shua (Jesus) even said: Mt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law , or the prophets: I do not come to destroy, but to fulfill (with meaning). Mt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass , one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all (law and prophets) be fulfilled. Mt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments , and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven : but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven .
Y'shua (Jesus) stated that not one of God’s commandments was to be “abolished” or “put an end to” until all of the Law and Prophets are fulfilled and Heaven and earth pass away. Heaven and earth passing away by being made new is the last prophetic event foretold in scripture. Isaiah 65:17 "Behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth . The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind. Revelation 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth , for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away , Please note that this event has clearly not yet happened.
Y'shua (Jesus) states that all of God’s Law will exist at LEAST UNTIL the day that the Lord states: Revelation 21:5-6 He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new !" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true." He said to me: "It is done. the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I am the Alpha and Christ’s work on the cross for our salvation is finished (John 19:30), but the Lord is not yet finished with what has been said in all of His Law and Prophets until He says, “It is done.” This statement is signaled by the new Heaven and New Earth. If this scripture is true, then what scriptural gymnastics do some teachers employ to avoid such a conclusion? Well, if they touch the verse at all, it creates quite an embarrassing mess. Some teach that in Matthew 5:1, fulfill means “to put and end to” or to “finish.” This is done (by their own admission) to avoid the clear teaching of Jesus that not one of God’s commandments are to pass away from the law. This also preserves their misinterpretations of Paul’s letters. If this interpretation is indeed true, we should be able to apply such teaching to scripture, and it should make logical sense - as God is not the author of confusion. We are commanded to test all things and only hold on to what is good (1 Thes. 5:20).
Let’s test the teaching that “fulfill” means “to put and end to” or “finish”, instead of the theory that “fulfill” simply means to “fill up the whole and complete meaning” of God’s Law. Can “fulfill” in Mt 5:17 mean “to put an end to".
Mt 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I do not come to destroy (the law), but to “put and end Huh? (to the law") Mt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law , till all (law and prophets) be fulfilled. Double huh? Mt 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments (that I just put an end to), and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven : but whosoever shall do and teach them (even though I put an end to them), the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven . Triple huh?
There are only two possible interpretations of “fulfill” in Matthew 5:17.
1) One is that Y'shua (Jesus) came to “fulfill the real meaning of God’s law” which the Pharisees polluted through their oral law. This makes sense because anytime Y’shua (Jesus) was around the Pharisees, this was precisely the point and purpose of all of His teachings. Y’shua was the walking Torah taught us how to correctly walk the way God wants us to walk in His law, and not the way men want us to walk in God’s law.
2) The second is that “fulfill” in Matthew 5:17 means to “complete, finish, or put an end to.” All one has to do is insert that definition into the context of the scripture to witness how such an interpretation is illogical and absurd. A literal rendering of the Greek, technically accepts either interpretation. G4137 pleroo play-ro'-o from G4134; to make replete, i.e. (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow), or (figuratively) to furnish (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc.:--accomplish, X after, (be) complete, end, expire, fill (up), fulfil, (be, make) full fully preach, perfect , supply. (Strong's) (come), The only interpretation of “fulfill” that fits the context and avoids logical absurdities is the one in which Jesus is teaching that He will make full or fully preach God’s law. Y'shua (Jesus) came to fully preach and teach us the full meaning of God’s law.
The Galatians made the mistake of applying the false doctrine which taught that they must be circumcised for salvation. This is legalism, not simple obedience.
1Ti 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; We know that they were incorrectly using the "law of God" lawfully, but incorrectly. We are to keep the Law of God to express our love back to Him, not to try to earn salvation.
John 14:15 “If ye love me, keep my commandments .”
John 14:21 “He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me : and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.”
John 14:23-24 “Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words : and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loves me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.”
John 15:10 “If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love ; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.”
1 John 2:4-5 “He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.”
1 John 5:3 “For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments : and his commandments are not grievous .”
2nd John 1:6 “And this is love, that we walk after his commandments .” We are to be obedient to the Law of God because of our salvation not for our salvation.
1Jn 4:19 We love him (obedience), because he first loved us (grace).
Obedience is simply the evidence of our faith (James 2:26). Paul was simply trying to bring the Galatians back into God’s grace through faith and teach against the error of using the Law of God for salvation. Nowhere in all of Galatians does Paul teach that we should not keep the Law of God in obedience. If he did, he would be contradicting himself, Y'shua (Jesus), and countless other verses in Scripture.
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This is such a good question. Sorry did not read anything on this thread. Why? Because this is the very first question I asked when I began to keep the Sabbath. You see I was raised Catholic. I was baptized at 1 year then started catholic school at 1st grade then on to all the other things you do as Catholic. Then I went to total athiest. I don't even believe in God, then non denominational, then Assemblies of God, then then then then,
Then I actually found the Lord. Or he found me. Ok, how do you keep the Sabbath, Hah the Sabbath keeps you. Glory.
Then I actually found the Lord. Or he found me. Ok, how do you keep the Sabbath, Hah the Sabbath keeps you. Glory.
Under grace is not without Law, Grace upholds Law that reminds me of my need fro Grace
[h=3]2 Corinthians 12:7-10[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. [SUP]8 [/SUP]For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. [SUP]9 [/SUP]And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ’s sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
[h=3]2 Corinthians 12:7-10[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. [SUP]8 [/SUP]For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. [SUP]9 [/SUP]And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ’s sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
and Amen!
Thanks Zone, I do not readily look each time over at if someone is banned or not
What a fight flesh as I see it even my own just is stubborn let alone to just trust God 100% yet wants its own way.
Praying to stay dead to self and to be shown when not
[h=3]Psalm 1:1[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[h=3]Psalm 1[/h][SUP]1 [/SUP]Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly,
nor standeth in the way of sinners,
nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful
And am not claiming to accuse anyone else, knowing we all have free choice, and trusting God to straighten me out wherever I am wrong
Learning to hold me accountable and not be a claim jumper
Not easy at times I admit
What a fight flesh as I see it even my own just is stubborn let alone to just trust God 100% yet wants its own way.
Praying to stay dead to self and to be shown when not
[h=3]Psalm 1:1[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
[h=3]Psalm 1[/h][SUP]1 [/SUP]Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly,
nor standeth in the way of sinners,
nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful
And am not claiming to accuse anyone else, knowing we all have free choice, and trusting God to straighten me out wherever I am wrong
Learning to hold me accountable and not be a claim jumper
Not easy at times I admit
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where here am I against anyone? I only say what I hear to say and be what I am to be by Faith in the Living Savior.
If that causes strife it is on the others own consciences, not mine
I am not here to accuse, steal, kill or destroy. I am here to present what Christ came here to give
John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
I am a trustee in my Father's world and that is not of this earth
Thanks though and love you just that same as anyone else here on earth
Are we not to be ambassadors for the Kingdom of Heaven and not of this earth?
Loving free choice will, That is how deep Father's love is through Son
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
CHRIST is my Sabbath rest 24/7 so:
Psalm 100:4 Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name.
Psalm 69:30 I will praise the name of God with a song, and will magnify him with thanksgiving.
Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
If that causes strife it is on the others own consciences, not mine
I am not here to accuse, steal, kill or destroy. I am here to present what Christ came here to give
John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
I am a trustee in my Father's world and that is not of this earth
Thanks though and love you just that same as anyone else here on earth
Are we not to be ambassadors for the Kingdom of Heaven and not of this earth?
Loving free choice will, That is how deep Father's love is through Son
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
CHRIST is my Sabbath rest 24/7 so:
Psalm 100:4 Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name.
Psalm 69:30 I will praise the name of God with a song, and will magnify him with thanksgiving.
Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Actually, one needs God's grace period as is what is sufficient
2 Corinthians 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
I am personally at rest in this by belief in God's amazing power and Mercy. And all others it is up to them as to whether they come to rest in God or not
John 8:36
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
1 Peter 5:7 Let him have all your worries and cares, for he is always thinking about you and watching everything that concerns you.
2 Corinthians 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
I am personally at rest in this by belief in God's amazing power and Mercy. And all others it is up to them as to whether they come to rest in God or not
John 8:36
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
1 Peter 5:7 Let him have all your worries and cares, for he is always thinking about you and watching everything that concerns you.
Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
I love this saying, beat me, hurt me, make a believer in the living Christ
Threaten me with a good time.
I know where I stand and that is in the amazing love, grace and Mercy of God through Son Christ
The way the truth and the life. The new life in Spirit and truth, while living in unredeemed flesh.
Therefore by the death of Christ in the flesh I consider this my death to my flesh and watch the operation of God in the Spirit make me alive by his Grace in Love given through Son's death, burial and resurrection.
A free gift, yet flesh just wants to earn it and have glory from God and others.
Others convince others that they are good when still to this very day only God is good the Father of Christ as even Christ himself said this.
Threaten me with a good time.
I know where I stand and that is in the amazing love, grace and Mercy of God through Son Christ
The way the truth and the life. The new life in Spirit and truth, while living in unredeemed flesh.
Therefore by the death of Christ in the flesh I consider this my death to my flesh and watch the operation of God in the Spirit make me alive by his Grace in Love given through Son's death, burial and resurrection.
A free gift, yet flesh just wants to earn it and have glory from God and others.
Others convince others that they are good when still to this very day only God is good the Father of Christ as even Christ himself said this.
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Brother Home, has all the prophesies been fulfilled? Has all the feasts been fulfilled? Jesus said...Think not...that I have come to destroy the Torah...for I have not
Do yourself a favor, step away from what you think is true. Open your heart to see if there is anything you have overlooked. You have probably been taught that we are free to be as we see fit as long as we love as Christ did. Well my friend, Christ was faithful to His Father, not contrary to Father. Why in the world would anyone be on a mission to discourage anyone from loving and obeying God's Law. Messiah's grace does not mean license to throw Torah into the garbage heap brother. But if you can never see clear to see the truth, then why are you on a mission to dissuade anyone else? Aren't we all supposed to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling? Beating someone over the head with what you think truth is it's just not right.
I come to this thread to share with other people who are like minded, instead I have tuned in to preacher Home. Please. Please I entreat you, leave it be man. I really liked Isdaniel. He was the first to reach out to me when I came to this site. It upsets me that he is gone. He will be missed, and for what reason, cuz he was pushed to the limit. I would walk away before I caused anyone to to gone. I'd hate to have that on my conscience. That don't sound like love to me at all.
Do yourself a favor, step away from what you think is true. Open your heart to see if there is anything you have overlooked. You have probably been taught that we are free to be as we see fit as long as we love as Christ did. Well my friend, Christ was faithful to His Father, not contrary to Father. Why in the world would anyone be on a mission to discourage anyone from loving and obeying God's Law. Messiah's grace does not mean license to throw Torah into the garbage heap brother. But if you can never see clear to see the truth, then why are you on a mission to dissuade anyone else? Aren't we all supposed to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling? Beating someone over the head with what you think truth is it's just not right.
I come to this thread to share with other people who are like minded, instead I have tuned in to preacher Home. Please. Please I entreat you, leave it be man. I really liked Isdaniel. He was the first to reach out to me when I came to this site. It upsets me that he is gone. He will be missed, and for what reason, cuz he was pushed to the limit. I would walk away before I caused anyone to to gone. I'd hate to have that on my conscience. That don't sound like love to me at all.