And you may take your Preterist beliefs and expound them in other threads, but this thread is not conducive to your contrivances.
Ok John! Didn't know you were so selfish,
I'll leave you all alone now
many blessings
And you may take your Preterist beliefs and expound them in other threads, but this thread is not conducive to your contrivances.
All the feasts are based on the Hebrew Civil Calendar, or the lunar calendar. So the date in our calendar has to be checked with the lunar calendar each year to find our corresponding date of a feast.
Pentecost is counted from the Feast of First Fruits, or Bikkurim. It is the day that Christ arose.
Harumph!!! I"m leaving. If anybody has a loving heart to help me understand, as I have mentioned before, just PM me and that will really make me feel good. I AM SICK OF THIS GOING ROUND AND ROUND knowing that everybody who does that knows beyond a shadow of a doubt those that they argue with will never listen to you. Either ignore or just go somewhere else to do what is proper to teach and edify something that means something. Good grief!!!
I was talking only about scripture! But I don't think scripture does tell us what Daniel's 70 weeks means. Some good sincere men have decided it means different things after much study. It is used in Daniel for both the time of the Babylonian exile and prophecy. Was it referring to Christ? Does it mean weeks or years? Is it 70 weeks of years? Daniel, even, didn't know, he was reporting what he saw. If you think you know, it isn't definite in scripture and we aren't to add to scripture.RedTent, don't know if your directing this at me or just in general.
But the Word of God is very specific about Daniel's 70 weeks,
and the Feast's of the Lord are very structured in the Old Testament!
God's blessings in your studies
How does one then calculate the 2 Sabbath days the the women bought and prepared spices then? There was a high day, the 15th, and then there was a weekly Sabbath the 17th. The original Sabbath was at the end of the week during the first Passover, not the middle of the week as it was in the time of Jesus' death. This counting at Christ resurrection instead of the Passover day throws off the 7 weeks counted at the original Passover in Exodus. It doesn't say in the Bible that "firstfruits" started 3 days after Passover in the book of Exodus, or Leviticus unless I'm missing something.
dear brother just-me.
what is missing is your day of passover.
god's sacred calendar is the true calendar.
and it shadows and types and gives orders of dates and events ( god's calendar ) from the beginning to the end times.
1. the passover feast began on wednesday evening/sundown ( according to the jewish customs given to them from god himself ) and ended thursday at sundown. for our lord jesus christ could only be sacrificed on passover... the 14th of nisan.
2. feast of unleavened bread began thursday from sundown ( 15th of nisan ) to friday sundown ( 15th of nisan ) was the high day. and this was now 1st night in the tomb and 1st day in the tomb. ( according to the jewish customs given to them from god himself )
3. friday from sundown ( 16th of nisan ) to saturday sundown ( 16th of nisan ) was the traditional sabbath. and this was the 2nd night and the 2nd day. ( according to the jewish customs given to them from god himself )
4. saturday from sundown ( 17th of nisan ) to sunday dawn ( 17th of nisan ) is the morning our lord jesus christ was resurrected and is also the feast of firstfruits. and this marked the 3rd night and the 3rd day to be risen as overlooked in luke 24:7-8.
luke 24:7-8
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And they remembered his words,
and here is the true cincher thats over looked in leviticus 23:
leviticus 23:10-11
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
morrow means ( tomorrow/next day/ day after today ) and we all know the sabbath day is saturday; so therefore if the feasts fit not only a prophetic prophecy; they must also fit the days exactly as God gave each feast as a shadow of what is to come.
Do you see the shadow, the type, and god's sacred calendar yet dear brother.
ties in exactly with our lord jesus christ at the cross, even upon hid death, and his resurrection.
now with this all in mind dear brother... now do your math and see it all fits according to god's holy plan.
god bless
But I don't think scripture does tell us what Daniel's 70 weeks means
And now, where is it that I SAID that animal sacrifices would be offered for sin? Again, I said that animal sacrifices would be offered in the Millenium. I have NEVER said that ANY animal sacirifice was offered to pay for sin.
Again, you completely misunderstand the schoolmaster.
Nice try, but
Fourteen times, the text in Ezekiel calls for a "sin offering"
are your words, not mine.
to make some latter rain or fall feast future fulfillment, you have to change the ORDER.
HE SAID FOR SIN
John where do you learn the Scriptures?
Old Covenant Israel was abolished in 70ad, they do not exist on the earth any more!
Have you ever told someone you'd love them forever?
Forever meant from then until their Messiah was made known to them.
Old Covenant Israel's forever; was the Old way in Adam, it's all they ever knew.
It's the symbolic language of the Prophets.
Just as I thought, you have no scriptural backing, it is what YOU think it says.
Ok John! Didn't know you were so selfish,
I'll leave you all alone now
many blessings
Not sure what you mean. Christ's sacrifice happened on Passover. The year wasn't necessarily representative of a chronological history. It's just that the day Passover fell on within the year was significant. [I'd have to strain to see how the Feast of Trumpets had come and gone already.
LoL....no feast! There is no NT scripture that requires it. Piece together all you want.
hmmm, u sound just like zone. what a coincidence![]()
God does not lie! You have no concept of whom you speak.!! No concept whatso ever!! No wonder all the confusion...oui
Romans 11
I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 3Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.