Noah's Ark

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Because things of Christ rarely bring you profit. Marketing even an ark discovery can be quite profitable.
 
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overcomer2 said:
I love this topic, please check out Ron Wyatt's website. He did find the Ark. It is AMAZING. This will go against the current so called Christian Creationists. They know Ron but refuse to believe.

Ron has died but the evidence and pictures are worth a look. Also he did exploring in the Red Sea and discovered where the crossing took place. He found chariot wheels and everything. Really neat stuff. BTW, they can tell the age of wheels by the amount of spokes.

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I do not believe I would place too much confidence in Ron Wyatt's claims. The man was nothing more than an amiture adventurer. He was certainly not an archaeologist. He was well known for jumping to unwarranted conclusions about his findings and offering speculations that he could not prove.
 
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Because things of Christ rarely bring you profit. Marketing even an ark discovery can be quite profitable.
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Matthew 6:19-20 (KJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
[SUP]20 [/SUP]But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

At the end of the day how does it become a profit?

Mark 8:36 (KJV)
[SUP]36 [/SUP]For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

Ecclesiastes 2:15-16 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then said I in my heart, As it happeneth to the fool, so it happeneth even to me; and why was I then more wise? Then I said in my heart, that this also is vanity.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For there is no remembrance of the wise more than of the fool for ever; seeing that which now is in the days to come shall all be forgotten. And how dieth the wise man? as the fool.
 
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IntoTheVoid said:
Is there an explanation in the bible for how everyone and everything breathed on the ark? I mean all the trees would have been submerged and unable to produce oxygen.
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I believe there was probably plenty of oxygen in the atmosphere. Also, they lived so much longer in that time because the atmosphere was so pure. No pollution, etc.
 
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oldhermit said:
I do not believe I would place too much confidence in Ron Wyatt's claims. The man was nothing more than an amiture adventurer. He was certainly not an archaeologist. He was well known for jumping to unwarranted conclusions about his findings and offering speculations that he could not prove.
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Hmmmm, makes me wonder who actually jumps to conclusions, and who knows what they are talking about. I don't really feel led to defend Ron, simply let the Holy Spirit lead you into truth. You can check out his books, the museum, and all his travels to the middle east by going to the website. I'm not asking anyone to believe because I do. You do the research. If you don't feel led then there's the answer.
 
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Matthew 6:19-20 (KJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
[SUP]20 [/SUP]But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

At the end of the day how does it become a profit?

Mark 8:36 (KJV)
[SUP]36 [/SUP]For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

Ecclesiastes 2:15-16 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then said I in my heart, As it happeneth to the fool, so it happeneth even to me; and why was I then more wise? Then I said in my heart, that this also is vanity.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For there is no remembrance of the wise more than of the fool for ever; seeing that which now is in the days to come shall all be forgotten. And how dieth the wise man? as the fool.
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Like anything, I home-school, I have to watch all the time that I don't get merchandized. Well, even things of God can be merchandized.
 
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overcomer2 said:
I love this topic, please check out Ron Wyatt's website. He did find the Ark. It is AMAZING. This will go against the current so called Christian Creationists. They know Ron but refuse to believe.

Ron has died but the evidence and pictures are worth a look. Also he did exploring in the Red Sea and discovered where the crossing took place. He found chariot wheels and everything. Really neat stuff. BTW, they can tell the age of wheels by the amount of spokes.

Wyatt archaeological Research Official Site
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Ron Wyatt is a fraud. He claims to have found the Ark, the mercy seat, the stone that covered the tomb he was resurrected from.. He even claims to have a sample of Christs blood.
 
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Ron Wyatt is a fraud. He claims to have found the Ark, the mercy seat, the stone that covered the tomb he was resurrected from.. He even claims to have a sample of Christs blood.
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Praise the Lord. Keep gnashing your teeth.
 
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Then why has he never published the tests on these items that everyone has asked for? He was hounded for years to show proof and he never did.
 
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Like anything, I home-school, I have to watch all the time that I don't get merchandized. Well, even things of God can be merchandized.
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I would think that both of us then, as believers, would want to reject improper merchandising, especially when it came to the truth that is in Christ Jesus. There's enough of that in modern churches nowadays.
 
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Laboratory analysis was performed on artifact labeled "deck timber". Galbraith Labs in Knoxville, Tennessee tested samples taken from within the "formation' and from without. All of the laboratory procedures were videotaped, including the taking the sample from the specimen, and the actual execution of the analyses. ​
Results of "inside" "outside" analysis:
The sample outside the formation showed a 1.88% carbon content; but the one from inside yielded a 4.95% carbon content, an amount that was consistent with the presence of prior living matter, such as decayed or petrified wood. It also showed a surprisingly high iron content.​
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Petrified wood is commonly known to contain organic carbon; but it is not known to be found in natural minerals. Compounds of carbon can be analyzed to determine whether they are composed of matter that was non-organic (non-living), or organic (living). Therefore, the one test to determine if an object was organic (once living), or not is to determine its organic carbon content.

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Gail Hutchens, Vice President of Galbraith, suggested that they run an analysis for total carbon content. This would include both inorganic and organic. Then, they would test for inorganic Then, the two tests would be compared. By subtracting the amount of inorganic from the total amount, the amount of organic carbon would be determined.

Results of organic carbon testing:
The result was that it contained .71% total carbon. Inorganic carbon totalled .0081%. It contained .7019% ORGANIC CARBON- almost 100 times more organic than inorganic! ​
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The "deck timber" having been determined to contain organic Carbon, which means that it was once living, was found to have a unique characteristic in that It displayed no growth rings. ​
Growth rings in trees and other plants are caused by a variation in the water supply to the plant. Annual rings occur when the temperature drops and the sap in the tree fails to rise. The leaves of the deciduous trees turn color and die, soon dropping off. In the spring, the warmth releases the tree from its state of "hibernation" and the sap begins to flow again. Even though there may be water in the ground, when the temperature drops, the tree does not continue its cycle until it is again spring. Therefore, a ring results when the growth is temporarily halted and begins when spring arrives.​
In order to understand why the pre-flood wood showed no growth rings one needs only to consult the Bible. It informs us that before the flood it did not rain; therefore there were not wet and dry seasons. Growth was at a constant rate.

Genesis2:5 "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD GOD HAD NOT CAUSED IT TO RAIN UPON THE EARTH, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6 But THERE WENT UP A MIST FROM THE EARTH, AND WATERED THE WHOLE FACE OF THE GROUND."

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Scientific study confirms the absence of growth rings in plants from what they label the "Carboniferous period"​
"There was, as we have already said, secondary bark and wood, similar to that of modern trees but lacking the spring and winter rings which correspond to seasonal alternation of moisture and dryness. This is a further proof that the Carboniferous climate was fairly uniform." (Larousse Encyclopedia of the Earth, p. 369.) ​
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I would think that both of us then, as believers, would want to reject improper merchandising, especially when it came to the truth that is in Christ Jesus. There's enough of that in modern churches nowadays.
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True, merchandising, I could not for the life of me figure out that spelling just then.
 
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overcomer2 said:
Hmmmm, makes me wonder who actually jumps to conclusions, and who knows what they are talking about. I don't really feel led to defend Ron, simply let the Holy Spirit lead you into truth. You can check out his books, the museum, and all his travels to the middle east by going to the website. I'm not asking anyone to believe because I do. You do the research. If you don't feel led then there's the answer.
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I have probably seen and read everything connected to Ron Wyatt and his discoveries. I do not doubt he has found thing of archaeological interest. What I am questioning is his interpretations of the things he has found.
 
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How do those tests confirm it is what he says it is? Did he put that scripture in his test results? Lol
 
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oldhermit said:
I have probably seen and read everything connected to Ron Wyatt and his discoveries. I do not doubt he has found thing of archaeological interest. What I am questioning is his interpretations of the things he has found.
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Okay, the Lord will make all things known.
 
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If the seasons, and rotation of the earth, and the revolving around the sun were the same then as now, but a difference in atmosphere, there would obviously be a difference of growth rings between then and now. The difference would be that there were no seasons as we have today, therefore rendering all plants growing at an even rate without seasonal change. Tell me what the point it concerning evolution? The Bible proves there was no dormant seasons before the flood, and I live in Knoxville. LOL:rolleyes:
 
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How do those tests confirm it is what he says it is? Did he put that scripture in his test results? Lol
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Huh? I'm sorry I lost ya. Anyway, I don't have any words to try and convince. I really just like to study the stuff for myself. A good place to start on that would be a book, or check into the labs that he used for results. I know that I have some books here and there are references in back that can be found. I also have books that discount his work so you just have to study.
 
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Why do feel you have to explain the current presence of the animals in Australia or any other part of the world. Does your lack of an explanation somehow render the biblical account of a global flood suspect?
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Actually, it renders it inexplicable, until one realizes that the original story tellers were not aware of the existence of the other continents.
 
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Actually, it renders it inexplicable, until one realizes that the original story tellers were not aware of the existence of the other continents.
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The way it reads in scripture that there was only one land mass before the flood, and was divided after the flood.

Genesis 10:25 (KJV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.

Genesis 10:32 (KJV)
[SUP]32 [/SUP]These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood.

One could argue that earth meant the population only. It is evident that it was both the population and the land masses.


Nations 1471 =masses, relating to gentiles. They could have used boats, or walked depending on the time the earth was divided

Earth (strong's concordance 776) according to the Hebrew language is defined as "to be firm" a land or country, field, ground , earth, wilderness, and world etc.
 
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