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lol..
You do not read scripture do you>


You talk about being anti-judging, and you start out by judging and condemning other Christians based your absolutely no knowledge of them or their lives? Brilliant.

Romans 1 says ALL men know they are sinners thus are without excuse..

So if you want to go be a pharisee judging people and thinking that will save them/. Go right ahead. You will not win many people. only a bunch of hate (myself included. I grew up in a pharisee church and wonder how many people they turned away from God with their hypocritical gospel of works.
I don't preach a Gospel? Funny. I teach we are ALL sinners (no judgment) We ALL fall short of Gods standard (no judgment) and thus we are all separated from god. But he loved us so much he sent his son to die for us so we could be adopted as sons of God. All we have to do is have faith in the work of Christ. And believe God he says whoever believes in him will be saved.

What other gospel is there??

You're sitting there pointing fingers at people who say that sin is sin, then you turn around and tell me that you teach that all people are sinners? Yet when other people teach the same thing you judge and condemn them for doing so. Way to contradict yourself.
 
NO I do not theach the law.
And yes most people I teach and fellowship with KNOW the sin daily.
But most of the lost I deal with do not understand what is sin and what is not sin.

Which is it? Do you teach law or not? You just admitted you tell people what their sins are (Law) now are you going to continue to deny it?

And can you answer why they need to know every sin they commit? Are you telling me they do not understand they are a sinner, and do not need you to tell them they are one?



This is because society has labled Homosexuality, abortion, sex without marriage, children born out of wedlock, devorce, and I can go on and on, as being acceptable.

Oh you mean like in romans 1? Funny how now I have mentioned that passage at least three times now. Which speak of ALL of those sins, and how everyone KNOWS they are sins, thus are without excuse. And no one of you has even admitted or commented on it.

Why is this?


And the other question I continue to ask with no response.

Why tell a person what they are doing is an abomination to God when they CAN NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT UNTIL THEY ARE SAVED?

Its like telling someone with lung cancer to stop smoking. Do you not think they already know this. And even if they did, what good will it do. They are STILL DIEING. They must get healing medical treatment if they want to live.

Give your friend the healing medicine (the gospel of love and forgiveness based on the grace of God) then help them stop what made them sick to begin with.

You and I may know that it is sin, but many lost, and sadly true, many how claim to be saved don't understand because to many pastors and teachers have stopped pointing out what is sin.

They do not have to know what is sin. They can;t comprehend it. they just need to know they are on a sinking ship, dead to God and need rescued!
 
[/B][/COLOR]You talk about being anti-judging, and you start out by judging and condemning other Christians based your absolutely no knowledge of them or their lives? Brilliant.


Yeah brilliant. I made a comment. You judged me without even having an idea of what I was saying.

And do not say I do not know about you. I do. I was a slave to your religion for 25 years.



You're sitting there pointing fingers at people who say that sin is sin, then you turn around and tell me that you teach that all people are sinners? Yet when other people teach the same thing you judge and condemn them for doing so. Way to contradict yourself.

lol.

No. I am judging a gospel of works and law. Which is what you are preaching, you can deny it al you want.

I do not need to tell anyone they are a sinner who does not know God. They already know it. No one I have ever spoken to believes they are not a sinner. They may not believe they need saved, or that God will love them unconditionally. But they KNOW they are a sinner.
 
The law is useful to bring those who are still under its curse. To bring people to an understanding of their lost condition, and thus their need for a Savior.

1 timothy 1:9Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

Galatians 3:10
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
 
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The law is useful to bring those who are still under its curse. To bring people to an understanding of their lost condition, and thus their need for a Savior.

1 timothy 1:9Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

Galatians 3:10
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Yep, and as Romans 1 says, They already know. Because God has written his law in our hearts. It is in our DNA. that is why there are morals in the first place. even in unchristian cultures Because Gods law shows even them there are things which are right and wrong.

So whats your point? Are you still going to judge and condemn someone who can not stop sin, or get them the medicine which can heal them first. THEN work on their sin issues as God empowers them?
 
Uh, posting a couple of scriptures is judging? Calm down friend.
We are called however to judge within the Christian community.
 
Uh, posting a couple of scriptures is judging? Calm down friend.
We are called however to judge within the Christian community.

we are not speaking of chastening a brother or sister in christ.

we are talking about judging a non believer.

big difference..

if I misunderstood you forgive me
 
When was the kingdom of God given to America?

Probably when our Pilgrim/Puritan ancestors left Europe, to establish they said, "the kingdom of God." Do you know of a nation that would fit this description better than the US? If so, I'd like to know what it is.
 
Which is it? Do you teach law or not? You just admitted you tell people what their sins are (Law) now are you going to continue to deny it?

And can you answer why they need to know every sin they commit? Are you telling me they do not understand they are a sinner, and do not need you to tell them they are one?





Oh you mean like in romans 1? Funny how now I have mentioned that passage at least three times now. Which speak of ALL of those sins, and how everyone KNOWS they are sins, thus are without excuse. And no one of you has even admitted or commented on it.

Why is this?


And the other question I continue to ask with no response.

Why tell a person what they are doing is an abomination to God when they CAN NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT UNTIL THEY ARE SAVED?

Its like telling someone with lung cancer to stop smoking. Do you not think they already know this. And even if they did, what good will it do. They are STILL DIEING. They must get healing medical treatment if they want to live.

Give your friend the healing medicine (the gospel of love and forgiveness based on the grace of God) then help them stop what made them sick to begin with.



They do not have to know what is sin. They can;t comprehend it. they just need to know they are on a sinking ship, dead to God and need rescued!

You obviously have comprehension problem.
You only understand what you are saying .
You like to put words in others mouths and then judge them as being less informed than you are.
Your foolish post are not worth responding to.
I will pray for you.
 
Uh, posting a couple of scriptures is judging? Calm down friend.
We are called however to judge within the Christian community.
We are not to judge at all. Our Lord Jesus tells us not to judge, or He will judge us.
 
The problem in America will be dealt with as explained in the kingdom parables, one of which is as follows.

As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world (age). The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity (lawlessness)....Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father...." Matthew 13:40-41; 43 (parentheses mine)

This tells us that things that offend (legalized sin, i.e., aborticide, same sex perversion, usurious money system, porn, etc.) are going to be removed, gathered out of his kingdom (government). Also to be removed at this time are the wicked, i.e., those who legalized this lawlessness ("iniquity"). Not until then will the non-Christian/anti-Christian element which now reigns supreme be removed, i.e., removed and replaced. They are going to be replaced with those who rise "to meet" Jesus on his way down. Thus are the wicked removed and replaced with a righteous government at the end of the age. Let us therefore, occupy until He comes.
 
Did Christ involve himself in politics?

Did Jesus tell his disciples to render unto Caesar the things that be Caesar's?
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lol.

No. I am judging a gospel of works and law. Which is what you are preaching, you can deny it al you want.

I do not need to tell anyone they are a sinner who does not know God. They already know it. No one I have ever spoken to believes they are not a sinner. They may not believe they need saved, or that God will love them unconditionally. But they KNOW they are a sinner.

Preaching that people need to repent of their sins is not a gospel of works and law. Repentance isn't a work of the law, no matter how much your false doctrine wants to spin it as such.
 
Peace be with you American Christians and including other nation Christians. Sadly America as a Christian nation brought upon it'self' the down fall, for all the bad reaping and harvesting it is facing now, chastisement and trial by the will of GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST. This is mentioned and highlighted to all, not for them to rejoice that justice of GOD has been finally served but ones who her them, to stay awake and be alert themselves, not become similarly chastised and trialled but in humble and humility be shameful and compassionate and pray that the guilty and non-guilty eyes and ears may be opened to seek forgiveness and answers in faith according to HIS Word, CHRIST of the New Covenant.

Sadly i confess as an undeserving and unworthy servant witness to GOD's Word (CHRIST) in compassion, America is ruined by it's own pride as a Christian nation that carnally it became rich and spiritually became poor, by compromising the Word of GOD through CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT, the New Covenant in the HOLY BIBLE, to a carnal selfish feelings and 'self' desired filled living of the flesh and this does not include some of the believers who remain in faith to the Word and the words of their founding fathers but sadly they are all equally guilty and are equally effected in this nation which was initially dedicated to GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST in the beginning by their founding and forefathers.

Slowly but surely every new generation of that nation who were born and grew up from a genuine truth based Christian parental and blessed and talented`background 'compromised', using their blessed gifted richness from their faithful parent's blessings of GOD, by introducing time to time, a new twisted living versions from the Truth knowledge, from what was the origin of their forefather's rooted faith. And it accumulated further to carnal and material possession, scaling it'self' to be higher that any other nation's prospects. It has continuously walked n ignorance to carnal imagination and pleasure turning it's back from the initial 'faith foundation of CHRIST', once practice faithfully by their forefathers first when they arrived where existing native wild Red-Indians were drawn into their faith and they were able to live in togetherness.

America forgot it's 'root' their founding forefathers and it's foundation that is CHRIST's Words, even though it has grown to a big and large tree for the world to see. An axe of the Living LORD is ready to chop it down but rejoice Brethren, in humble and humility, the tree is not 'up rooted' yet and left to wither because of HIS faithful ones, still praying and pleading for mercy, a chance to confess and seek help, the way of truth based repentance, with our Great High Priest, our LORD JESUS CHRIST in Heaven, help from all their weaknesses.

America has forgotten that their forefathers initially flee persecution for righteousness sake from England (like a soldier abandoning one's post running from his enemy's attack) and settled in an unknown land that they have discovered which initially was already been populated by the native Indians and latter togetherness with them that land became America. And sadly also latter the strong, learned and rich started to ill treat the weak, poor and unlearned in foolish ignorance.

As a warning in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST, this must not be a subject that in anyway become a matter of any scorn laughter joke and or a gossip practiced by anyone, for may the wrath of GOD be upon such person. This is a reminder and a stir up of all of one's memory in faith rooted to the Word, to examine their own individual lives first, which is also subjected to GOD's chastisement too.

America still have hope! Do not look back about what could have been done then, in order to have made it better for us now but rather what can be done now and move forward, in order not to face the possible coming second death in hell. Some may now ignorantly see that GOD's chastisement is a judgement of wrath and bad news on a person or a nation but Holy Scripture justifies and are genuinely believed by some who remain faithful, it is just GOD's love acting upon HIS ignorant children for a chance for them to redeem themselves back again to be faithful.

So let us all grow up in maturity in our thinking by the Help of GOD through HIS SON and the HOLY SPIRIT and the Holy Scripture in the Holy Bible and be a help and love compassion towards those who are upright and those who have fallen. This is our repentance lesson services and practices, a portrait of GOD 's love towards those who are bad and those who are good ("none is good but GOD"), which we are called to be in-debt to and in-guide to, in order to react or to respond well towards others who go through Tribulation either for doing wrong or doing right.

May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST forgive and help America from their pride and arrogance, in order to get back on it's feet again, now in humble and humility and diligently serve Him once again in fear, in their renewed heart as one nation rooted in CHRIST and HIS FATHER's Word Foundation of Peace and spiritual prosperity which was established as written in the New Covenant and in the Old for that was foretold promise is to be fulfilled and is fulfilled by the MESSIAH and forever and ever, Amen.
 
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