never had a gf. don't see much hope of ever getting one. any suggestions?

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The best thing I could tell you is socialize a lot, never hide your interest from someone you want to ask out, and actually ask them out. You will meet up with someone you click with that likes you back if you put yourself out there enough. I suggest actually building a social life offline and not relying on/using social media for dating related purposes.
Thats a major problem for me. Its practically impossible for me to approach girls face to face and have it work out... which is why i approach them online... once i get to know them online i feel like i can carry that comfortability over into real life better if i actually meet them...

Granted i havent actually tried it yet so at this point its just a theory... But i believe it would prove at least partially true.
 
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Oh come on Arcanyancula..Archanacula.....arcanicualear... whatever. You're gonna be fine, don't worry. You'll probably be married long before most of us are finished moaning about being single. But here's something to watch out for - once you get married that is. It's children. You heard me right - children. My dad often said there's only 3 things he's afraid of in life and that's tornados, torpedos, and children under 5 and I believed him. Don't get me wrong! They're adorable I know...


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They're here to replace you Archancu..Arcaniculay...Arcaniculayer. And they know it too. They'll act all cute and cuddly but don't you believe it for a second, they want you out of the picture. I've sat across from babies and caught them looking at me like "go ahead and eat that piece of pie, Uncle Ken. Clog up them arteries". They're out to kill you.

I whispered to this one once "I'm on to you, you little monster"....


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So ive never had a gf or gone on a date or anything... and i feel really lonely in this area... but im not sure what to do... i thought if i just was myself that someone would like me for me but so far that hasn't worked... Is it possible no one will ever like me for me? Is there sonething i can do different and still stay true to myself?

I see so many others who are in happy relationships and i dont know how they do it cuz it does not seem to work for me... maybe most people are more likable than i am?

At this rate it feels like i will be a real life forever alone :/

I dont know if im doing anything wrong or not but thats why im asking cuz i feel clueless.
And just fyi: i never did much in person interaction... im too shy... i try to get to know girls online first cuz its easier.

Anyway i hope i dont seem too stupid asking these questions...
And im not christian but thought id ask here anyway cuz why not? So yea.
Usually I would give some explanation of what girls generally like and what society deems a 'worthy guy', post some questions for you to think about and try not to sound too critical but honestly, I'm beginning to doubt the whole idea that we should 'be' anything or 'do' anything to 'win' anything.

You are who you are, and yet just because you can't seem to find a partner you feel inadequate. Why should you? Perhaps it isn't you that is the problem, perhaps you are fine just the way you are, and it is society that has its priorities all messed up.

I think you want it so much that you diminish all the things that you are, and do have. For instance, humility. Not self-hatred, I'm not saying that's good. But just, humility. The idea of open-ness, that you may not be perfect and you may not be the all amazing, spitting image of the muscular, confident, special, talented, good-looking, rich man that society says you have to be. And you know what, that's okay.

Plenty of women aren't the perfectly airbrushed, shapely, intelligent, independent, seductive, witty women that society says they have to be either. In fact, few are, and even fewer think ​they are.

It's all fake, and to be honest with you, fifty years ago, a handsome, attractive, rich, muscular man with the best looks, biggest wallet and highest confidence wasn't really what your typical sought after man was. Back then it was hairy chests, vigour and good work ethic. Therefore, there is no definite 'this is what women really want'. It doesn't exist. The same with women. Marilyn Monroe was far from the most exceptionally pretty women on the planet, nor the thinnest, or the most airbrushed and tanned.

I always said to myself that when I find a woman who thinks the norms of society are as trivial and laughable as me, that I'll stay with her.

Perhaps you and I are alike in that respect. Don't think that just because the 'usual' women in society don't seem to fetter to you that you aren't a decent man and won't find somebody. You want someone who thinks the same as you do, really. And don't think that just because it hasn't happened yet, that you have to go looking for it. It's okay. You don't have to want it. In fact, it's a strange irony about the world but the less you truly want it, the more likely it is to happen.

go out with friends, do work you enjoy, study things you like, eat stuff that's exotic, fun to cook and better to eat. Meet people that are vibrant and friendly. Don't settle for competitive relationships, nor ones with all these expectations. Look after yourself without demeaning anyone else's emotional, mental or physical well-being. treat people as you want to be treated. Don't be overly nice just because you think you should or because you want something. Give what you want to give. Have empathy, be kind. And relax. It's only a matter of not desiring anything too much, and doing what you know is good for you and those around you.

Be happy, share happiness, attract happiness.
 
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Accusations of deceptions are unjust I think, and saying he is just whining ore dismissing what he is saying just because he is 20 is not listening to him. Because a matter was little in our lives you are not seeing just how big their are in his, and more importantly are missing the larger and deeper issues they are hinting at with him and which he has invested in his search of a girlfriend. As Christians we are called to be Christ to the world, we called to understand and identify with people, not be like the world and join it in dismissing someone, ignoring them (one whom Jesus died for) and even joke about them. It's not what we called to be, and it's sad to see it happen, listen to him and those like him, identify with him, if we don't do this, is it any wonder that he and those with him never listen to Christ's message to the world, how will he see Jesus if he doesn't see Him through us?

As eugenius has said, many have this problem, and it seems to be clear from reading some of his posts that there is a larger issue in his life which (and having been there when I was his age, and a non-Christian then, I really do understand) he has focused around the issue of getting a girlfriend, in the hopes that she would be the one to understand him, to be someone who could see him and talk to him, end the isolation and loneliness. And with it, to end the depression that has come with it, and have doubts about it, as his tag says, depression can most definitely be a killer, I remember being near-suicidal with it at times in life, including when I was a teenager, and suicide from it is a major killer world-wide. Don't dismiss such cry with statements of you are only 20 or because the issue minor to you, not when things show it to be an expression of a much larger and deeper issue, of isolation of anyone at that age, no real friends or anyone you can talk with and relate to, such a place will magnify each and every rejection (such as those eluded to on the social sites), it seems to confirm the message you receive everywhere, you aren't worth anything, you are failure as a person, everyone would be better of if you were gone. And you don't know God, you don't know His love for you, and the infinite worth you have to Him, the strength He gives you, from your perspective you are completely and totally alone, the whole world as you know, all the messages it sends, from college or work, family you can't talk to, media, in causal interactions seem to confirm to you that no one notices you, values you, the confirm you are less then human. And the depression makes it seem total, where to someone having to deal with just this or that issue, and looking from the outside (or from having come out of it looking back) it doesn't seem so serious or important, when you are in it, it is deadly, and at times really is a life and death struggle.

So with this, I'll say Arcynaulr I do understand you and where you are coming from, I have lived someone similar to yourself when I was around your age, and I understand the sense of isolation and worthlessness that seems to be magnified each time someone, friend or a woman you were hoping for more with not only declines but ignores you or doesn't respond at all. It hurts, and it seems to confirm what you your mind so much of the world seems to be telling you anyway, but first while I can't say that you might end up married and therefore don't necessarily worry about (if you are in depression that advice wouldn't help anyhow, you wouldn't be able to stop just like that), it might be that you just don't connect with a woman in that way. This world is broken, and sometimes for many complicated reasons we might never connect with someone in that way and marry, sometimes the worlds makes people eunuchs, I hope not for your sake (and for aloha999, I do see you to, and I will respond to you as well) but sometimes in a world ravaged by sin and death, it does happen, none of us are the people should be, and thanks to God, we will be. However from what I'm getting I don't think even if you did end up with a girlfriend tomorrow it would solve your problems, because girlfriend or wife, they may or may not love you to provide some connection for you, and some validation to you, but they are unable and won't be the magic pill will end your current state of isolating, of being unloved (whether that is true or not), of being value-less. Worse, you might even end up placing your whole remaining value in that relationship, and despite what allot of romantic films and storylines would have you believe, that isn't a healthy relationship or state to being. It would place far to much pressure on it, and on your girlfriend, it couldn't carry that weight, and one way or another it would either crumble or be twisted by it, and you would be affected worse then you were.

You need first to face the real issues that you are hoping a girlfriend/wife will solve, of being loved, valued, being seen as who you are, of being known as a person, a fully human and not being felt to be dismissed as something less then that. And the truth is you are this, but it is hard to see when you are in locked in the blackness of depression, what Winston Churchill called the black dog, it is a thing that can has crushed the greatest of men and women, and was a common affliction to men and women throughout the Bible. You are not alone in this, and there are many like you feeling isolated and alone, for one thing even though you may not see Him, and you don't know if He's there or even if He is who Christians say He is, God is there for you, He is with you even when you don't feel Him. He is there to grieve with you, and to heal you, and is ready for you turn to Him, for Him you a have an infinite and special value, He loves you in a way He doesn't love anyone else, He loves each of us infinitely and uniquely, and even though you don't believe it now, Jesus died for you personally, taking all the sin, evil, all the isolation, pain, depression, darkness and death that this world afflicts you with on Himself at the cross, He identified with you there, and He exhausted it's claim and power on you completely, and when He was raised you were brought with Him into that new creation Life, to be set free to become the fully unique and human person you were meant to be. He did that for you, and is there for when you are ready to turn and seek Him, to accept who you are, and welcome you back :) , also I know when you are the midst of such depression it can be hard to see a way out, or accept when people do start to tell you that it can get better, or that you are worth something. But it can and you are, I hope if you haven't already, that you do reach out to those who care about you, to you parents if they will listen (and I necessarily assume they won't) and also think about taking to a doctor or counsellor, and see what treatment they can offer through therapy or through medication (if it has associated physiological causes), it is no weakness to reach out in this way. Depression is an illness, it affects your mind and twists how we see the world and interpret everything around us, so getting professional help is invaluable to helping you think and see things clearly once more, and can help you see things in their proper perspective, where your depression is no longer magnifying them out of all proportion. And I also feel in this you need to forget for the moment focusing on finding a girlfriend, having one won't solve all your problems in any case, but rather making connections with people in general, and learning to relax and find the worth in friendships you build (despite what the world tells you, friends are not second-class to romantic relationships but can be just as important) and enjoy your time with them, with your family, and get out to do things you enjoy. And as hard as it can be, try and focus on finding others you can help, just the act of focusing on others, on helping, serving and loving them can have a powerful affect in changing your whole perspective, how you feel and how you see yourself, learning to focus off yourself and onto others is a great aid to stepping out of yourself and instead taking all the unique gifts and advantages you have into other's lives and coming alongside them, and you might find that you are neither so alone or worthless as you were lead to believe.

Finally, I hope you will know that what you think this world is telling you about yourself, what you often enough will tell yourself, and even anyone might tell you on this site, doesn't define who you are. God defines who you are, and He says you are of infinite worth, uniquely special and valuable, and are created to reflect His love, wisdom and restorative justice into the world and sum it's praises back to Him in your unique and individual way, and it's something you alone can do, you can help in this world in a way that no others could ever do. He calls you to Him to step into His forgiveness and to be put right with Him, to accept the future of being an heir and co-heir with Christ, to rescue you yes, and through you to work to put things right in the world, to do what only you can do, because that is your unique gifts and personality. There is none else like you, who can reflect God in the way you do, and the world needs you, you are uniquely special and valuable, and never believe anything or anyone that says or implies anything different to this. I also pray that you consider looking into a church that shows forth the love of Christ, and is able to identify with you and welcome you into their community and can support you as you deal with your troubles and seek after the truth. And I pray that God protects your mind, guides you through your troubles and leads you out of the darkness and reveals to you how much He loves you personally and is with you in your troubles, letting you know that you are not alone, and never will be.

And to aloha999, I understand and sympathise, often seeing others married around you, who then get involved in their own married world leaves you outside, not only don't you have the same thing but you seem to lose even them in such significant ways from your life. And sometimes (and I'm not sure if this has happened to you, but it does) they can then take you for granted, not seeing how some added responsibilities do fall on your shoulders in the family, and assume you can just be there to take care of children for them and so on. It may not be intentional, but it creates situations where they use you nonetheless and don't consider the problems that you have to face alone, and the isolation you feel. And the fact that I hear that so many other Christians don't notice you, and seem to have forgotten you I think is tragic, so often we Christians become just like those in the world, we let it conform our minds and views, and don't let Jesus confirm our minds. We don't see the hurting, the lost, the poor, and the outcasts, even those we outcast in our own circles and we don't identify and go to them in love as we are called to do. We do not love each other as He loved us, even though that is the new commandment He left us. And I'm terribly sorry you have been left so alone by your Christian family, and I hope God opens the eyes of some to seeing how alone you feel and draws them close to you. But I do see you, and much more importantly, God does see you, and He never has and never will forget you, He is with you in this right now, but as I said above the brokenness of the world sometimes means there are those who have had singleness thrust onto us for a season or longer, and it is part of the cross we bear, but He gives us the strength to carry it, and bears it with us, and is with us in it. And He will give us brothers and sisters to in the church family to love around us, and spiritual children we can speak into even for what we have lost because of the damaged nature of the world. Turn to God and let all your frustrations, angry and pain to Him and let Him come in and heal your hurt, let Him walk this road with you and lead you to a community of Christians who will see, love and identify with you.

Also don't allow this world (as so much of the evangelical church has done, and conspires with) to confirm you to it's messages, that sex and romance (which the church re-packages in a nice Christian wrapper under the title of marriage) is the answer or will bring you fulfilment, or necessarily end your longing or your sense of isolation. It won't and can't end those longings or bring full meaning or satisfaction to your life, and where that is made the goal, rather then Christ and being within the family of the church, you will never feel satisfied, so don't believe such a deception, even if it comes from within the church that your meaning is defined by marriage or sex. It isn't, it's defined by God, by His love and by bringing that love to the world and enjoying the fellowship in His family, the rest is a confusion and deception of this world, marriage is a great and beautiful thing, but it isn't the goal, and and it isn't for forever, it ends at the resurrection in any case. Whatever other aspect of things will be then, marriage is not one of them, so it is also only a temporary thing that shall pass. I do pray that the Church does see you at last, and sees your pain and hurting, and that people come alongside and bring you in, ministering in love to you, and that your family don't ignore you or take you from granted. And I hope through all of it, that God shines His love, restoration and peace through your life and those of your family.

May God bless you and protect you both.
Wow, the first part of your message made an impact. but once you started speaking of god, the impact dwindled. but i suppose thats to be expected of a nonchristian...

Anyway, some points i wish to address: everyone is different. what does not work for you or even for most people, may work for me. i dont know how much being in a dedicated relationship will help me as i have never been in one. But i cant think of anything better for the forseeable future...

Also, saying that marriage doesnt really matter cuz its temporary. that same logic could be applied to anything in this life. even helping others. Its not about wether something is permanent or temporary (altho i admit i wish many things were permanent) but all you can really do in this life is try to find things that make life worth living. some find it in a god...and i understand that your bible says everyone can find it in the god of the bible... but i see no reason to believe that it works like that for everyone. it seems there are people who find no worth in a god and they find worth in other things. but there also seem to be people who cant find worth in anything, and i suppose they are usually the ones that end up suiciding. i just hope im not one of them...
 
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Don't loose all hope. Most women between ages 16 and 21 are not worth dating anyway.
Actually, most women in general are not worth dating haha (at least not for me)
Thats another problem i have is i have a very specific idea of the kind of girl i want and most girls dont meet those specifications.
So whenever i do come across the rare girl that actually really interests me (out of the hundreds ive looked at online this has only happened 3 times) the stakes are so high because if it does not work out with this one... who knows when i'll find another one of those rare types...

I mean i think alot of girls are pretty, but im looking for alot more than looks...

(i mean i never met a girl who completely meets the specs but i know thats most likely impossible so im perfectly willing to accept half filled specs) i probably should not let her know that tho lol
 
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So ive never had a gf or gone on a date or anything... and i feel really lonely in this area... but im not sure what to do... i thought if i just was myself that someone would like me for me but so far that hasn't worked... Is it possible no one will ever like me for me? Is there sonething i can do different and still stay true to myself?

I see so many others who are in happy relationships and i dont know how they do it cuz it does not seem to work for me... maybe most people are more likable than i am?

At this rate it feels like i will be a real life forever alone :/

I dont know if im doing anything wrong or not but thats why im asking cuz i feel clueless.
And just fyi: i never did much in person interaction... im too shy... i try to get to know girls online first cuz its easier.

Anyway i hope i dont seem too stupid asking these questions...
And im not christian but thought id ask here anyway cuz why not? So yea.
If you're not Christian Pray and ask God to make you one.You will never be alone..You will have purpose in life.
It's useless to have girl friend for a young man.When time comes get married,girl friend - boyfriend is for kids in school...and i didn't mean it by dating or something in school,but being pen-pals at schools,childhood friends.
You are older,and don't think all couples married/unmarried are happy.It's all worked out to be happy or mostly pretending happy.So look on the bright side than color your sky black.It's still blue.:)
 
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Wow, the first part of your message made an impact. but once you started speaking of god, the impact dwindled. but i suppose thats to be expected of a nonchristian...

Anyway, some points i wish to address: everyone is different. what does not work for you or even for most people, may work for me. i dont know how much being in a dedicated relationship will help me as i have never been in one. But i cant think of anything better for the forseeable future...

Also, saying that marriage doesnt really matter cuz its temporary. that same logic could be applied to anything in this life. even helping others. Its not about wether something is permanent or temporary (altho i admit i wish many things were permanent) but all you can really do in this life is try to find things that make life worth living. some find it in a god...and i understand that your bible says everyone can find it in the god of the bible... but i see no reason to believe that it works like that for everyone. it seems there are people who find no worth in a god and they find worth in other things. but there also seem to be people who cant find worth in anything, and i suppose they are usually the ones that end up suiciding. i just hope im not one of them...
I think what NightRevan is saying makes a lot of sense. He is not saying 'conform to christianity' He's not saying 'be this', 'be that'. he's not saying 'find a church and you'll be okay'. He understands fully how you feel, how the church and many christians will fob you off with 'it's no big deal' and how little anybody seems to understand the despair you feel. This is a man whom I can truly call set apart from the rest. He understands you, as do I. I've been where you have been and I've searched a hectic, sometimes impossible search for meaning and comfort in my life.

I can tell you where it's found; in creating a happiness that depends on nobody else, a happiness founded on vibrance, and love and compassion. Being good to others to the degree that you wish, and never giving more than you desire to give. Trust me, the more you find good hearted people, and give your own good heart a chance to work in the world, the more the two confirm each other.

It's not a case of forcing anything. Simply a case of having compassion for yourself and for others. That's all. Simple compassion. Look at people and see yourself in them, just like this man has done for you.

Even if your God is not the God of the bible, or even if you don't even know if you believe in God, that's okay. The true One who is throughout everything is a lover of compassion. For good reasons.

The happiest, most fulfilled people on Earth are compassionate people, both to themselves and to others. To bring yourself happiness and compassion like that will bring you peace and attract compassion to you as a bi-product. When you come to a place in your life, living compassionately, where you don't even think about 'getting', all the things you desire today will appear for you. It is a strange irony, it really is.
 
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Actually, most women in general are not worth dating haha (at least not for me)
Thats another problem i have is i have a very specific idea of the kind of girl i want and most girls dont meet those specifications.
So whenever i do come across the rare girl that actually really interests me (out of the hundreds ive looked at online this has only happened 3 times) the stakes are so high because if it does not work out with this one... who knows when i'll find another one of those rare types...

I mean i think alot of girls are pretty, but im looking for alot more than looks...

(i mean i never met a girl who completely meets the specs but i know thats most likely impossible so im perfectly willing to accept half filled specs) i probably should not let her know that tho lol
Your fantasies are not women.
They are human.
i had the kind of ideology that you had,and later i realized how wrong i was about women.
They are just like us(although designed in a different way) but have feelings and problems just like men.
The day you let go off the dream girl stuff,you will realize getting in a relationship is not just cuddling inside each others arms.It's responsibilities,about being there when you are not there,taking care of each other.
It's mostly give more or give all than receive:)
It's not the hollywood romantic movie atmosphere..
 
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Sheesh talk about plagiarism of a stand - up comedians bit. lol
oh my iTore - do you ...do you really think I'm original? Here's a little something about myself - ALL my stuff is stolen. I don't even know who this was from. I've never told an original joke in my life. Now - that's akin to telling people how you sawed a girl in half, but, when your hand is forced, then what else.
 
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Another thing to keep in mind is the weight you are putting on this. When you do get a girlfriend...what then? Is she going to fix every feeling of longing and loneliness? Are you going to expect her to? If so, then that is a ton of pressure to put on someone else, unhealthy pressure for both you and her. It may not all be conscious pressure, but based off of what you've said, it sounds like it would be there.
I only expect her love, time, and support. I have no one that offers me those in real life. and no i dont expect all her time or magical support.
Even tho i have no friends or family to spend time with i understand that she probably will and im ok with that.
And i will of course dedicate my love, time and support to her too.

As long as we both give each other those things as best we can, what else is to be expected?
 
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I only expect her love, time, and support. I have no one that offers me those in real life. and no i dont expect all her time or magical support.
Even tho i have no friends or family to spend time with i understand that she probably will and im ok with that.
And i will of course dedicate my love, time and support to her too.

As long as we both give each other those things as best we can, what else is to be expected?
Women will drive you insane if you have no friends or support system. It's nice to be able to be with other people with different personalities.
 
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On the bright side, and yes there is a bright side to this - you are saved from the emotional pain and heartache that comes with the end of a relationship. I know it sounds horrible, but trust me, nobody should never have to face THAT pain. If being single is the way to avoid it then I vote for being single.
Well at least i would feel like someone thought i was worth a try...
 
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Usually I would give some explanation of what girls generally like and what society deems a 'worthy guy', post some questions for you to think about and try not to sound too critical but honestly, I'm beginning to doubt the whole idea that we should 'be' anything or 'do' anything to 'win' anything.

You are who you are, and yet just because you can't seem to find a partner you feel inadequate. Why should you? Perhaps it isn't you that is the problem, perhaps you are fine just the way you are, and it is society that has its priorities all messed up.

I think you want it so much that you diminish all the things that you are, and do have. For instance, humility. Not self-hatred, I'm not saying that's good. But just, humility. The idea of open-ness, that you may not be perfect and you may not be the all amazing, spitting image of the muscular, confident, special, talented, good-looking, rich man that society says you have to be. And you know what, that's okay.

Plenty of women aren't the perfectly airbrushed, shapely, intelligent, independent, seductive, witty women that society says they have to be either. In fact, few are, and even fewer think ​they are.

It's all fake, and to be honest with you, fifty years ago, a handsome, attractive, rich, muscular man with the best looks, biggest wallet and highest confidence wasn't really what your typical sought after man was. Back then it was hairy chests, vigour and good work ethic. Therefore, there is no definite 'this is what women really want'. It doesn't exist. The same with women. Marilyn Monroe was far from the most exceptionally pretty women on the planet, nor the thinnest, or the most airbrushed and tanned.

I always said to myself that when I find a woman who thinks the norms of society are as trivial and laughable as me, that I'll stay with her.

Perhaps you and I are alike in that respect. Don't think that just because the 'usual' women in society don't seem to fetter to you that you aren't a decent man and won't find somebody. You want someone who thinks the same as you do, really. And don't think that just because it hasn't happened yet, that you have to go looking for it. It's okay. You don't have to want it. In fact, it's a strange irony about the world but the less you truly want it, the more likely it is to happen.

go out with friends, do work you enjoy, study things you like, eat stuff that's exotic, fun to cook and better to eat. Meet people that are vibrant and friendly. Don't settle for competitive relationships, nor ones with all these expectations. Look after yourself without demeaning anyone else's emotional, mental or physical well-being. treat people as you want to be treated. Don't be overly nice just because you think you should or because you want something. Give what you want to give. Have empathy, be kind. And relax. It's only a matter of not desiring anything too much, and doing what you know is good for you and those around you.

Be happy, share happiness, attract happiness.
You can do all those things with a gf as well as without one. the only difference is with a gf would be more fulfilling.
 
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You can do all those things with a gf as well as without one. the only difference is with a gf would be more fulfilling.
It's more than that. If you do them without pinning your desire on having a female partner, you'll fulfill yourself and be happy. Then when the time comes where you attract someone else who is also fulfilled and happy, there is none of this expectation or dependency on each other to cure all your problems.

You'll be two happy people, comfortable in yourselves and great for one another.
 
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IF you think a girlfriend is gonna be an answer to your problems of being lonely or ignored or rejected or whatever problems you've mentioned here and in the Misc. forum. Then I'm telling you now, you are completely on the wrong path. It is not even fair to ask that girl to be an answer or a solution for your problems. God is the ONLY healer, best companion, great lover. If you are not gonna believe in God and start seeking Him instead of running after a girlfriend, I'm telling you from reading your thread in the Misc. forum and your thread here, there's a good chance you get depressed, that's if you are not ALREADY depressed, which I think you are. And there is a huge chance you will end up lonely for the rest of your life. Your problems cannot be solved by another human being. And actually your loneliness is there because of the none existence of God in your life. You don't want to believe this. THAT'S actually your REAL problem. You don't want to believe in God who LOVES you and care for you more than anything in the whole world. Your problem is NOT your loneliness or anything else you've mentioned.


I whine too much for a 20 yr old man or for a human being?

More to life than emotions, yes. Working, making money, helping others... but at the same time, no matter what i do, the loneliness will be there.
Maybe some people can kill off their feelings, but i guess im not that lucky.

If someone complains about the pain of an empty stomach, do they whine too much? Why is it any different for the pain of an empty heart?
And what cures an empty stomach? Ignoring it? No. Fixing it. Can you do other things with an empty stomach? Yes. but the emptiness and pain will be a constant veil over anything you do. its the same with an empty heart. actually its worse.
Cuz an empty stomach is so much easier to fix.

At least this is my reality. maybe yours is different.
 
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I think what NightRevan is saying makes a lot of sense. He is not saying 'conform to christianity' He's not saying 'be this', 'be that'. he's not saying 'find a church and you'll be okay'. He understands fully how you feel, how the church and many christians will fob you off with 'it's no big deal' and how little anybody seems to understand the despair you feel. This is a man whom I can truly call set apart from the rest. He understands you, as do I. I've been where you have been and I've searched a hectic, sometimes impossible search for meaning and comfort in my life.

I can tell you where it's found; in creating a happiness that depends on nobody else, a happiness founded on vibrance, and love and compassion. Being good to others to the degree that you wish, and never giving more than you desire to give. Trust me, the more you find good hearted people, and give your own good heart a chance to work in the world, the more the two confirm each other.

It's not a case of forcing anything. Simply a case of having compassion for yourself and for others. That's all. Simple compassion. Look at people and see yourself in them, just like this man has done for you.

Even if your God is not the God of the bible, or even if you don't even know if you believe in God, that's okay. The true One who is throughout everything is a lover of compassion. For good reasons.

The happiest, most fulfilled people on Earth are compassionate people, both to themselves and to others. To bring yourself happiness and compassion like that will bring you peace and attract compassion to you as a bi-product. When you come to a place in your life, living compassionately, where you don't even think about 'getting', all the things you desire today will appear for you. It is a strange irony, it really is.
Only downside to being compassionate is i wish i could help everyone and protect everyone. i wish i could stop every murder and rape... i wish i could cure every disease... stop every disaster... or at least most of them... even half of them... thats one thing i want. but i cant. sometimes i wish i didnt care so much... but i do and it hurts so much.
 
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IF you think a girlfriend is gonna be an answer to your problems of being lonely or ignored or rejected or whatever problems you've mentioned here and in the Misc. forum. Then I'm telling you now, you are completely on the wrong path. It is not even fair to ask that girl to be an answer or a solution for your problems. God is the ONLY healer, best companion, great lover. If you are not gonna believe in God and start seeking Him instead of running after a girlfriend, I'm telling you from reading your thread in the Misc. forum and your thread here, there's a good chance you get depressed, that's if you are not ALREADY depressed, which I think you are. And there is a huge chance you will end up lonely for the rest of your life. Your problems cannot be solved by another human being. And actually your loneliness is there because of the none existence of God in your life. You don't want to believe this. THAT'S actually your REAL problem. You don't want to believe in God who LOVES you and care for you more than anything in the whole world. Your problem is NOT your loneliness or anything else you've mentioned.
That's a demeaning response on several levels.

His problem IS his loneliness. His problem is that his loneliness makes him FEEL lonely. These things are called EMOTIONS. How do you expect him to believe in a loving God when you, the person promoting your version of him, don't have the empathy or understanding of a toddler?
 
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Only downside to being compassionate is i wish i could help everyone and protect everyone. i wish i could stop every murder and rape... i wish i could cure every disease... stop every disaster... or at least most of them... even half of them... thats one thing i want. but i cant. sometimes i wish i didnt care so much... but i do and it hurts so much.
I've felt that too. One small act of kindness at a time man, that's all it takes. That's enough to be happy with. Be true to yourself, help who you can, when you can, and be at peace about it. The first person you need to love is you, man. If you demean yourself and bite and snap at yourself and beat yourself up because you can't save the world, you will chomp away at everything that gives you hope.
 
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Your fantasies are not women.
They are human.
i had the kind of ideology that you had,and later i realized how wrong i was about women.
They are just like us(although designed in a different way) but have feelings and problems just like men.
The day you let go off the dream girl stuff,you will realize getting in a relationship is not just cuddling inside each others arms.It's responsibilities,about being there when you are not there,taking care of each other.
It's mostly give more or give all than receive:)
It's not the hollywood romantic movie atmosphere..
Yes i realize this. which is why i said im perfectly fine with sacrificing half of my "dream girl" image.
I cant sacrifice it completely cuz then i would not even be interested in her.
A person should have standards.
 
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Let's just leave God out of this. It's not fair whenever we are faced with a problem n' we wanna point our finger at someone to blame to feel at ease, so point our finger at God and accuse Him. He has nothing to do with this. He's not your genie who is here to make things work for you the way YOU want, because things works according to God's plan for OUR BEST. IF we really love God and believe in Him, we'll know He cares and loves us more than anything in this whole world. He died for YOU personally and look at you, you are kinda saying it's His fault you're single. I am single too by the way n' I'm loving it because I KNOW that's God's plan for me at least for now.

What do you mean other Christians remembers you? We start by accepting God's plan for our life with content. He's our Father whom we can still go to Him and tell Him the desires of our hearts. Other Christians can pray for you. They cannot get you a husband. And at the end it will still be God's plan in your life that will surpass everything.


i have been waiting and praying for more than two decades for a husband. I entered into two relationships with non-Christians and I broke it off. It is very painful being single. I can't find many friends - all my siblings are married and don't spend time with me. I am getting to that age where I cannot have children. Why doesn't God or other Christians remember us?