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Intellihub.com -- Former Nat'l Bank of Commerce CEO James Stuart Jr. found dead in Scottsdale AZ. Cause of death has not been announced. He joins an illustrious group of eight other financial leaders who in the past 4 weeks have turned up dead:

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1. William Broeksmit - Germany Deutsche Bank, Jan 26, 2014
2. Karl Slym - Bangkok, Tata Motors, Jan 27, 2014
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3. Gabriel Magee - JP Morgan, London, Jan 27, 2014​
4. Mike Dueker - US Investment Bank, Tacoma WA ​
5. Richard Talley - American Title, Colorado​
6. Tim Dickenson - Swiss Re AG, UK​
7. Ryan Henry Crane - JP Morgan - Stamford, Conn.​
8. Li Junjie - Hong Kong JPMorgan Hdqtrs

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One or two coincidences I might be able to swallow, but nine??? Give me a break. Major banks and holding companies have derivative exposures that exceed the total assets of the whole world and those exposures are eating our financial institutions alive!

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Below is the only Bible prophecy that still needed to be fulfilled before the return of the Lord and it is being fulfilled right now, right under our noses . . .

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James 5:1-4 “Come now, ye rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and your silver are rusted; and their rust shall be for a testimony against you, and shall eat your flesh as fire. Ye have laid up your treasure in the last days. Behold, the hire of the laborers who mowed your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth out: and the cries of them that reaped have entered into the ears of the Lord of Hosts.”

 
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Economic setbacks, finance sector confusion, a growing public disdain for bankers, and a workaholic lifestyle has created a great deal of stress for top level bankers. Suicide is following. We saw this during the Great Depression but today they use sleeping pills and other sedatives.
 
Economic setbacks, finance sector confusion, a growing public disdain for bankers, and a workaholic lifestyle has created a great deal of stress for top level bankers. Suicide is following. We saw this during the Great Depression but today they use sleeping pills and other sedatives.

Good to see you again, brother. <smile>

This looks like a latter day repeat of the Great Depression of 1929, sure enough, with three major differences: the new nation of Israel, born out of the Holocaust in 1948 and Jerusalem freed of Gentile domination in 1967 for the first time in 2573 years! Those are two, the third being: the world now has a global economy. If any of the major financial players collapses, the rest of the world's financial systems will follow like a line of dominoes.

Furthermore, the first two events appear to be the most significant fulfillments of Bible prophecy since the New Testament was written; and both, in my opinion, end the "time of the Gentiles," Luke 21:24, and place us in the "end-times" of Daniel 12:9, "And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end."

Point being: if we are indeed in Daniel's "time of the end," this coming world financial collapse will be like none that has ever come before it.
 
You reminded me of this scripture...

1 Timothy 6:9-10: "But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil........."
 
Wow... I wonder what it means? The ages are from young to old so I doubt they knew each other. One had his company under investigation. One man shot himself 8 times with a pneumatic nail gun?..that is bizarre. I'm not sure what to make of it but I am not one to leap to a conspiracy theory easily.

It does remind me of a murder of a wife by a jealous husband at a Smith Barney branch in Pasadena Ca. I was working in the remodel of half of the floor. A man who was an executive brought his wife and son to the area under construction. He was measuring the layout lines of the offices which was silly as he had no control over them. It seemed like he was trying to impress his wife. The wife was a stunning beauty and she held the hand of her boy. This happened on a Friday.

Monday as we started work we heard the news that the husband had discovered his wife's affair and was very distraught. Around 4 am her shot her in the head with a pistol in her bed. He called 911 and was arrested. Smith Barney fired him quickly and he was sentenced to a paltry 14 years in jail. He seemed to of had it all and then it simply vanished from him.
 
One man shot himself 8 times with a pneumatic nail gun?..that is bizarre. I'm not sure what to make of it but I am not one to leap to a conspiracy theory easily.

Do you think it means he shot himself 8 times with a pneumatic nail gun?
 
last August, the finance chief at Zurich Insurance Group AG committed suicide and left a note blaming the company's chairman for creating an unbearable work environment.

the banking industry is one of the highest-stress vocations in the world, especially among those who handle very large amounts of money. most if not all of the people you mentioned are presumed or suspected suicide cases.

there are probably at least a million investment bankers in the world. if 0.01 percent of them commit suicide in a year, and we assume the distribution over the year is evenly distributed, the probability that 9 die within any 4-week span is actually pretty high.

i'm not surprised at all.

i wasn't around in 1929 but i suspect the suicide rate among investment bankers was a little higher back then.. and we probably have a whole lot more of them in the industry today than there were then.

so are you thinking this handful of deaths is directly related to the economic collapse at the end of the Bush administration (what, 6 years ago?) -- or you expect these 10 or so across the world know something we don't know and the whole global economy is about to tank?




 
I'm betting these six individuals new something that might be problematic for someone else...
 
Intellihub.com -- Former Nat'l Bank of Commerce CEO James Stuart Jr. found dead in Scottsdale AZ. Cause of death has not been announced. He joins an illustrious group of eight other financial leaders who in the past 4 weeks have turned up dead:



1. William Broeksmit - Germany Deutsche Bank, Jan 26, 2014
2. Karl Slym - Bangkok, Tata Motors, Jan 27, 2014

3. Gabriel Magee - JP Morgan, London, Jan 27, 2014
4. Mike Dueker - US Investment Bank, Tacoma WA
5. Richard Talley - American Title, Colorado
6. Tim Dickenson - Swiss Re AG, UK
7. Ryan Henry Crane - JP Morgan - Stamford, Conn.
8. Li Junjie - Hong Kong JPMorgan Hdqtrs


One or two coincidences I might be able to swallow, but nine??? Give me a break. Major banks and holding companies have derivative exposures that exceed the total assets of the whole world and those exposures are eating our financial institutions alive!


Below is the only Bible prophecy that still needed to be fulfilled before the return of the Lord and it is being fulfilled right now, right under our noses . . .

​
James 5:1-4 “Come now, ye rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and your silver are rusted; and their rust shall be for a testimony against you, and shall eat your flesh as fire. Ye have laid up your treasure in the last days. Behold, the hire of the laborers who mowed your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth out: and the cries of them that reaped have entered into the ears of the Lord of Hosts.”


Excellent post
 
I'm not sure if it's going to actually collapse. Though the world's national economic and trade systems are intertwined, there are still winners and losers meaning some nations are prospering and doing so with a measure of organicness which is to say their success is not primarily dependent on trade with another country. Even China has managed to wean itself off an almost total dependency on the West for profit building a growing working and middle class that now accounts for a material share of Chinese GDP purchasing Chinese products in China.

It's still not clear yet if China will form a currency/financial sector bloc that competes directly against the EU and the US but if the TPP fails and they actually do that will provide more global decentralization even though they will still be intertwined. It's speculative at this point.

That said, most Western nations have incurred massive debt (with the exception of the Russian Federation) and, given the present economic environment, are looking at a future of austerity.

The average person in the West is going to suffer serious economic hardship as the ability to maintain a lifestyle fueled by government spending is curtailed by rapid debt escalation as stimulus fails to bring about economic recovery which finally results in a debt-to-currency ratio that can no longer be ignored. That's when the social welfare finally begins to decline by necessity, in order to save the currency, leaving a lot of people in abject poverty.

Normally, this wouldn't be a big problem for those in agrarianism with access to a barter economy but the present changes in the weather which appear to be a long term trend (e.g. snowlessness, drought, etc...) are going to severely hurt them too.

More eclectic topics like the superbugs that are starting to emerge, which are totally antibiotic resistant and have depopulation potential, fortunately are few and presently contained. We'll need to open up some research avenues for creating powerful new antibiotics which could treat them. Substances like tea tree oil, for example, could be used to create powerful new antibiotics to deal with superbugs. That's not happening currently though and if a really active variant of tuburculosis becomes totally antibiotic resistant and starts spreading or a new aggressive retrovirus jumps the barrier it could pose a depopulation risk.

Difficult times are coming. We've not seen anything yet. Every time I pick up a newspaper and read how peachy everything is, I wonder if the people writing those articles live on the same planet I do.

Good to see you again, brother. <smile>

This looks like a latter day repeat of the Great Depression of 1929, sure enough, with three major differences: the new nation of Israel, born out of the Holocaust in 1948 and Jerusalem freed of Gentile domination in 1967 for the first time in 2573 years! Those are two, the third being: the world now has a global economy. If any of the major financial players collapses, the rest of the world's financial systems will follow like a line of dominoes.

Furthermore, the first two events appear to be the most significant fulfillments of Bible prophecy since the New Testament was written; and both, in my opinion, end the "time of the Gentiles," Luke 21:24, and place us in the "end-times" of Daniel 12:9, "And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end."

Point being: if we are indeed in Daniel's "time of the end," this coming world financial collapse will be like none that has ever come before it.
 
I'm not sure if it's going to actually collapse.

I don't think these deaths imply doom for the world's banking system. The nine persons in question come from all over the world and I think they are a small fraction of the total of their kind. It is interesting but I want be afarid of what ever comes as God has everything in Control.

I recall a similar story back in the 1980's when President Reagan had his Star wars missile defense shield in the works. Mysteriously several top scientists died of strange suicide methods when they had not been depressed. Of course the KGB was suspected of killing them to slow down progress of Star Wars being implemented. Reagan's Missile Shield was never built as he wished it.
 
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"When you steal $600, you can just disappear. When you steal $600 million, they will find you unless they think you're already dead." ― Hans Gruber
 
I remember that! The GEC-Marconi scientist deaths conspiracy theory.

If you see my first post in the thread; however, I attribute their suicides to the great stress top bankers now face and not a conspiracy to murder them.



I don't think these deaths imply doom for the world's banking system. The nine persons in question come from all over the world and I think they are a small fraction of the total of their kind. It is interesting but I want be afarid of what ever comes as God has everything in Control.

I recall a similar story back in the 1980's when President Reagan had his Star wars missile defense shield in the works. Mysteriously several top scientists died of strange suicide methods when they had not been depressed. Of course the KGB was suspected of killing them to slow down progress of Star Wars being implemented. Reagan's Missile Shield was never built as he wished it.
 
The world monetary system will collapse, for it is prophesied it will need to be replaced, you know, in Revelation.
 
If you wish it substantiated, read Revelation. If you still do not have it, I cannot help you.+
It is not mete to need to give one line or two out of context when all of the Book should be read by any who believe Messiah.
All too many are asked for Scriptural proof, and receive a line or two, again, out of context, therefore it makes sense to either believe the Holy Spirit in you, or read the Book. The forum does not allow for that many words to be cut and pasted.

Substantiate your assertion. Where does it say this?
 
Why do I have to reread the book of Revelation and try and formulate your own argument for you from it. If you can't support your own assertion, just say you can't. Don't try to blame your inability to support the things you say on some spiritual lack of discernment in others. That's absurd.


If you wish it substantiated, read Revelation. If you still do not have it, I cannot help you.+
It is not mete to need to give one line or two out of context when all of the Book should be read by any who believe Messiah.
All too many are asked for Scriptural proof, and receive a line or two, again, out of context, therefore it makes sense to either believe the Holy Spirit in you, or read the Book. The forum does not allow for that many words to be cut and pasted.
 
You have hit the nail right on the head by using the word, "argument," as being mine. It is not my argument, it is the Word of Yahweh. Since you have read it, you know the world monetary systems will disappear. It would be a disservice were I to argue what is in simple words from our Maker. If you did not understand this, please reread it, and when you get to the part about buying and selling or not either, fix your concentration on that. Otherwise, as you have deftly stated, it is just my argument, and I certainly am tired of all the arguments rising in this forum.
 
Substantiate your assertion. Where does it say this?

It's not in Revelation, but in James . . .

James 5:1-3 Come now, rich ones, weep and howl for your hardships coming on. Your riches have rotted, and your clothes have become moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have corroded, and their poison will be a witness against you, and will eat your flesh as fire. You heaped treasure in the last days.
 
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