DRINKING AND THE SCRIPTURES
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K
Who is decieved?
Those who tarry long in it, and get drunk.
or those who just sip it casually.
I guess Jesus was deceived..
why are you so weak in faith I must ask?
Those who tarry long in it, and get drunk.
or those who just sip it casually.
I guess Jesus was deceived..
why are you so weak in faith I must ask?
E
No I am not weak in faith, I am however a former alcoholic that was set free by Jesus whom you say drank alcoholic wine. I preach and teach at a local ministry for addicts. They all say" I just had a drink or two socially and the next thing I knew my wife left me, my kids hated me" and so on. So pour you another.
But to judge others who CAN drink, and to twist scripture like your doing. That is a whole other thing.
No I am not weak in faith, I am however a former alcoholic that was set free by Jesus whom you say drank alcoholic wine. I preach and teach at a local ministry for addicts. They all say" I just had a drink or two socially and the next thing I knew my wife left me, my kids hated me" and so on. So pour you another.
K
well if your an alcoholic. then I see you not drinking period (you can;t)
But to judge others who CAN drink, and to twist scripture like your doing. That is a whole other thing.
But to judge others who CAN drink, and to twist scripture like your doing. That is a whole other thing.
T
Throughout the entire bible there are examples of God's people and his enemies that have used wine (alcohol) and as result of the alcohol they were punished for their actions.
Genesis 9:20-27 - Ham is cursed because he looked upon his father Noah who was asleep and naked from being drunk.
Genesis 19:32 - Lot's daughters get him drunk and have sex with him. They offspring were the Moabites and Ammonites, enemies of God's children.
Leviticus 10:1-2, 9-10 - Nadab and Abihu got drunk and did not follow God's command and as a result were destroyed by God.
Daniel 5:3-4 - Belshazzar used the vessels from God's temple to drink wine and praise false gods.
In Revelation 14:8, 17:2 - false teaching, the false church is called wine.
Alcohol is of the world and like everything good that God has created, the devil has also corrupted the subject of wine and grapejuice. God said marriage is between a man and a woman, the devil said same sex marriage is ok; God said the sabbath is the seventh day, the devil said it is the first day; God said new wine (grapejuice), the devil said old wine (alcohol). The devil knows the word better than we do and he is trying to corrupt it. He is mixing lies with truth. As christians we should follow the example of Christ. Don't fall for satan's lies.
Matthew 26:29 - But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.
Genesis 9:20-27 - Ham is cursed because he looked upon his father Noah who was asleep and naked from being drunk.
Genesis 19:32 - Lot's daughters get him drunk and have sex with him. They offspring were the Moabites and Ammonites, enemies of God's children.
Leviticus 10:1-2, 9-10 - Nadab and Abihu got drunk and did not follow God's command and as a result were destroyed by God.
Daniel 5:3-4 - Belshazzar used the vessels from God's temple to drink wine and praise false gods.
In Revelation 14:8, 17:2 - false teaching, the false church is called wine.
Alcohol is of the world and like everything good that God has created, the devil has also corrupted the subject of wine and grapejuice. God said marriage is between a man and a woman, the devil said same sex marriage is ok; God said the sabbath is the seventh day, the devil said it is the first day; God said new wine (grapejuice), the devil said old wine (alcohol). The devil knows the word better than we do and he is trying to corrupt it. He is mixing lies with truth. As christians we should follow the example of Christ. Don't fall for satan's lies.
Matthew 26:29 - But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.
T
The Greek word for wine is oinos for both fermented and unfermented wine. As far as containers being broken, it is talking about the condition of the container which is old that is why it broke. The men made fun of the apostles saying new wine because they knew that the apostles only drank new wine, grapejuice. I am not here to argue the word, no need to. As christians we are not to live like people of the world. God tells us not to be partakers with the people of the world, Ephesians 5:7.
either.
Again your understanding of Oinos is 100% wrong. The word Oinos means broken skin, which directly implies fermentation
I have someone close to me have addiction to prescription anti- depressants and pain pills. after seeing how this affected this person, I would never even think about taking these. but I cannot deem them as evil and wrong because of the pain that was caused because someone mis-used and over-indulged on them. to say that they are wrong to take them would be wrong for me. this is what some of you are doing on this issue.
K
So whats next, smoking pot. why not cocaine. I meant it's moderation right. What the hey, snort some heroin if helps you sleep.
The fact is you have no faith in the cross and whats wrong with abstaining. come on over to the weed for Christians thread. I meant if your gonna drink, might as well smoke pot too.
The fact is you have no faith in the cross and whats wrong with abstaining. come on over to the weed for Christians thread. I meant if your gonna drink, might as well smoke pot too.
E
If you have kids, they see you drinking and who knows they may become alcoholics as well. Every alcoholic had their first drink.
Kids can get into alot of sin. whether they see their parents do something or not.
again, I ask you if you are weak in faith, since your judging someone by what they drink and eat, Paul says you are weak in faith.
E
So whats next, smoking pot. why not cocaine. I meant it's moderation right. What the hey, snort some heroin if helps you sleep.
The fact is you have no faith in the cross and whats wrong with abstaining. come on over to the weed for Christians thread. I meant if your gonna drink, might as well smoke pot too.
The fact is you have no faith in the cross and whats wrong with abstaining. come on over to the weed for Christians thread. I meant if your gonna drink, might as well smoke pot too.
2. Your putting up smoke screens, You have been shown scriptural proof. And you refuse to acknowledge it. why is that?