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JimJimmers

JimJimmers

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In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers and sisters, to keep away from every believer who is idle and disruptive and does not live according to the teaching you received from us.


Is it Christian to ignore certain people on the forums? I believe it is. Those who aren't growing and just try to stir up strife can and in fact should be ignored.

Second Thessalonians 3:14 Take special note of anyone who does not obey our instruction in this letter. Do not associate with them, in order that they may feel ashamed.

Now, this doesn't apply to atheists, or Muslims. This is for those who wear the name of Christ, and habitually offend, showing no remorse.
I don't want people to think the "Christian" thing is to keep showing friendship to those of us who show no fruits of The Spirit, refuse council, call names, etc. Nevertheless: ...do not regard him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
 
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IloveyouGod

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Saint Paul didn't do that though. He met tons of people who resisted him and tried to stop him in every way possible from spreading the word of God, but he never gave up on them.

We have to have this love and wisdom when talking to those who will resist us in any way. Or those who don't believe in Jesus Christ or in God in general. We have to accept them with love, guide them for as much as we can. And if we sense that they are there only to argue and that they don't wanna listen OR maybe their hearts n' minds are not yet ready to accept the word of God for whatever reason, then we just leave them alone. God will lead them at His right time n' in His own way. We are only tools in God's hands. He is the one who makes it happen or not happen.
 
RickyZ

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There is a very well established Biblical pattern that addresses this. We are to go to an errant brother in love with correction. If he does not accept it, we are to shun him. If he repents we welcome him back. If he doesn't it's an issue between him and God.
 
zeroturbulence

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This is why I don't go into the bible discussion forum. :rolleyes:
 
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keep_on_smiling

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I truly this it's as simple as "as the Lord leads".

If someone is causing trouble or not doing the things that the Lord has shown us, it's not a bad thing to ignore them. The Lord says to watch for these things. The enemy can keep communication open with people that isn't glorifying God, by making us feel bad for people, or even making us feel like we need to be the one to share the truth.

As the Lord leads, sometimes He will have us address people and others He won't. If He isn't in it, it's not going to bear fruit.
 
JimJimmers

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IloveyouGod said:
We have to have this love and wisdom when talking to those who will resist us in any way. Or those who don't believe in Jesus Christ or in God in general.
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JimJimmers said:
Now, this doesn't apply to atheists, or Muslims. This is for those who wear the name of Christ, and habitually offend, showing no remorse.
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I agree with Keeponsmiling, the Lord leads. Sometimes He will have us address people. I just don't want anyone thinking it is wrong to follow leading to ignore someone, when it's Biblical.
 
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JimJimmers said:
Is it Christian to ignore certain people on the forums?
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Well, how about this question: Is it proper for saints to ignore lascivious intentions expressed in forums?

We cannot go about blocking people out of our lives, but we can certainly go about life embracing the holiness of Christ, and somehow darkness will disassociate from us. :)
 
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JimJimmers said:
In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers and sisters, to keep away from every believer who is idle and disruptive and does not live according to the teaching you received from us.


Is it Christian to ignore certain people on the forums? I believe it is. Those who aren't growing and just try to stir up strife can and in fact should be ignored.

Second Thessalonians 3:14 Take special note of anyone who does not obey our instruction in this letter. Do not associate with them, in order that they may feel ashamed.

Now, this doesn't apply to atheists, or Muslims. This is for those who wear the name of Christ, and habitually offend, showing no remorse.
I don't want people to think the "Christian" thing is to keep showing friendship to those of us who show no fruits of The Spirit, refuse council, call names, etc. Nevertheless: ...do not regard him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
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[h=3]John 8:7-11[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]7 [/SUP]So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
[SUP]11 [/SUP]She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
 
Grace-Like-Rain

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biscuit said:
John 8:7-11

King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]7 [/SUP]So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
[SUP]11 [/SUP]She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
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Condemnation is not the same as brotherly correction.

The scriptures are clear that we should admonish fellow brothers or sisters when they have strayed from the path, and they should do the same for us. Paul confronts Peter in Galatians, in fact, when he finds him in error.

The woman in John 8 was a previous unbeliever who was coming into the faith. "Go and sin no more." Had she continued to sin by not changing her lifestyle, she would have likely been approached by her fellow brothers or sisters for correction, and had she refused to repent and turn from that life, she would have been considered an unbeliever.
 
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Grace-Like-Rain said:
Condemnation is not the same as brotherly correction.

The scriptures are clear that we should admonish fellow brothers or sisters when they have strayed from the path, and they should do the same for us. Paul confronts Peter in Galatians, in fact, when he finds him in error.

The woman in John 8 was a previous unbeliever who was coming into the faith. "Go and sin no more." Had she continued to sin by not changing her lifestyle, she would have likely been approached by her fellow brothers or sisters for correction, and had she refused to repent and turn from that life, she would have been considered an unbeliever.
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And who is to decide in the 21st century what is condemnation & brotherly correction? Jesus was a considered a highly respected rabbi/prophet and His words carried considerably weight in His days. So who is the high prophet on CC who will carried the weight of "brotherly correction or condemnation." If such an act did occur, it would likely resemble a "lynch mob" than admonishing someone for so called irrational behavior. That's why I used the bible verse for this thread. No one (members) on CC can decide who is right or wrong because he or she doesn't have the authority to discipline because there isn't anyone who can govern who is right or wrong; who is immoral or moral because we are all sinners.
 
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Yes, Biscuit, we are all sinners, yet even as sinners we do have the God-given capacity to understand what is wrong according to God.

We understand gossip is wrong; adultery is wrong; lying is wrong; selling one's daughter is wrong, etc. If blokes comes to CC to flirt and it is later found that they're married, or catfish or gigolos whatever, yeah, CC would ban them all sooner than my next shower.

Once the Lord Jesus has exposed the Cross, all sinners should know better than to continue in sin. Remember, "there is, therefore, now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus." That mean, those outside of Jesus are, like condemned. ...just saying. :)
 
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Christian, ignore.

That's how I'm reading this thread title. My name is Christian and I have a bad habit of feeding members who are trolls, end up being trolls or act like trolls. Discipline thyself!
 
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We forgive you, Tintin, because you're a cool Christian. :p :D
 
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biscuit

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Tintin said:
Christian, ignore.

That's how I'm reading this thread title. My name is Christian and I have a bad habit of feeding members who are trolls, end up being trolls or act like trolls. Discipline thyself!
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LOL!! This is about the silliest thread I have seen in a long time. The OP is basically advocating a "witch hunt" for those who so-called break some biblical rules they find offensive. I can see them with sacks on the their heads, with torches, riding on horses in the middle of the night to find a violator, thus burning him or her at the stake for heresy on CC board. Too funny !!
 
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Aw, thanks, BananaPie. I seem to feed them often - consciously but often subconsciously. Still, I'm going to train myself to not have to answer to every anti-Christian or false teaching thread/post. Or even the threads that are biblically-sound but just run around in circles and never find a conclusion.
 
Grace-Like-Rain

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Tintin said:
Aw, thanks, BananaPie. I seem to feed them often - consciously but often subconsciously. Still, I'm going to train myself to not have to answer to every anti-Christian or false teaching thread/post. Or even the threads that are biblically-sound but just run around in circles and never find a conclusion.
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I'm the same way Tintin. For me, this seems to be stemmed from a 50% desire to help, and a 50% need to always be right. :rolleyes:
 
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Yes, that's me. I want to help people to recognise God's Truth (and avoid false teachings). The other times it's because of my too-trusting nature or pride.
 
posthuman

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JimJimmers said:
In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers and sisters, to keep away from every believer who is idle and disruptive and does not live according to the teaching you received from us.


Is it Christian to ignore certain people on the forums? I believe it is. Those who aren't growing and just try to stir up strife can and in fact should be ignored.

Second Thessalonians 3:14 Take special note of anyone who does not obey our instruction in this letter. Do not associate with them, in order that they may feel ashamed.

Now, this doesn't apply to atheists, or Muslims. This is for those who wear the name of Christ, and habitually offend, showing no remorse.
I don't want people to think the "Christian" thing is to keep showing friendship to those of us who show no fruits of The Spirit, refuse council, call names, etc. Nevertheless: ...do not regard him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
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i don't disagree with your sentiment, but i got a question:

the reason not to associate with a brother or sister (and where it's different from not "yoking yourself" with an unbeliever) is that the purpose is that they should be ashamed, and when they come to repentance, we should accept them again, and do this 70*7 times if need be!

if you just put someone on "ignore" do they even know you've done so? is there any way for that person to reach you and ask to be forgiven? (i don't know, i've never 'ignored' anyone! lol)

this principle extends further, to kicking people out of the forum if need be, i think. (but i don't pretend to tell the mods what to do)

you are right; we shouldn't feel like taking this kind of action when it's called for is wrong at all.
 
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Well, the NT recommendation is,

"Let the word of Christ dwell in your richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in Psalms and hymns and spiritual songs... and whatsoever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God" (Colossians 3:16-17).

Furthermore, the Bible admonishes that we are to speak for the edification of the hearer. In other words, our thought process needs to be constantly yielding to the foot of the Cross where the Blood of Jesus cleanses us from all torpid thinking and decay.

We need to be very careful what are the intentions of one's heart, "for from the heart come evil thoughts," the Lord Jesus said. :)







 
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posthuman said:
if you just put someone on "ignore" do they even know you've done so?
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Inasmuch as I agree with your post, allow me to respectfully address the main convenience of the "ignore" feature is for one's continued participation in forums without being bothered by drama some peeps are consumed by.

The best way to get rid of drama is to not feed it, frankly. I enjoy reading threads just because I enjoy discovering what God is doing in the lives of others, but at times, certain topics get a little frisky even for my turtle... :rolleyes:
 
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