Perhaps the Poorest Translated Verse, found in Romans 10

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john832

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Hi there Karraster, there are no "poorly translated verses" in the word of God. Just as there are no errors in God's holy word.

The only error is in your own misunderstanding, that's all.
Now here we have a major disagreement.
 

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Hi there Karraster, there are no "poorly translated verses" in the word of God. Just as there are no errors in God's holy word.

The only error is in your own misunderstanding, that's all.
You have obviously never examined the NWT. That is the most perverted translation of scripture in the English language.
 

ChosenbyHim

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You have obviously never examined the NWT. That is the most perverted translation of scripture in the English language.

Hi there Oldhermit,

the NWT is NOT the word of God.


The NWT is a satanic counterfeit, just as the NIV, ESV, NASV, LB, NLT, CEV, Amp, Mess, etc. are.


The word of God is the King James Holy Bible. And there are no errors or mistakes in it.
 
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chubbena

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No,

But how can you make Phil 6 and col 2: 10 so they do not contradict.

Col 2: 10 Says I am complete.

Phil 6 says it is Christ completing what he started.

What is the differences here?

How can I already be complete in Christ, yet Christ yet to complete the work he started in me? Are they not speaking of two different things?
Colossians 2:10 says in Christ you are complete. Who is Christ? He's the Word, the whole council of Yahweh. If one neglects part of His Word, he is only partially complete.
And what is this verse about in context?
Colossians 2:8 says "See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces[SUP] [/SUP]of this world rather than on Christ."
Upholding the Law is no hollow and deceptive philosophy. The Law does not depend on human tradition. The Law is from the spoken word of Yahweh, that is, Christ, not from the elemental spiritual forces of this world.
My bible does not have Phil 6 so I am not sure what you are referring to.
 

oldhermit

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Hi there Oldhermit,

the NWT is NOT the word of God.


The NWT is a satanic counterfeit, just as the NIV, ESV, NASV, LB, NLT, CEV, Amp, Mess, etc. are.


The word of God is the King James Holy Bible. And there are no errors or mistakes in it.
Do you read koine Greek?
 
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chubbena

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and yet again I notice my question was not answered.

How you people can look at yourselves in the mirror and think you preach truth when you can not even answer simple questions is beyond me. And you want to judge us??

Again, Can anyone answer how Paul can say I AM COMPLETE in Christ in Col. And he IS COMPLETING a work in me until the day of Christ?

Did Paul contradict himself. or is he speaking of two different things.

Come one people. You want to judge me and those like me. Prove you know the word of God and stop hiding from the questions. Or prove yourself to be people that should not be listened to
Please quote whoever is judging here.
 
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Karraster

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Hi there Karraster, there are no "poorly translated verses" in the word of God. Just as there are no errors in God's holy word.

The only error is in your own misunderstanding, that's all.
[h=3]Deuteronomy 16[/h]King James Version (KJV)


16 Observe the month of Abib, and keep the passover unto the Lord thy God: for in the month of Abib the Lord thy God brought thee forth out of Egypt by night.

Month of Abib?

I am not knocking the KJV, and tried to make it clear that I do appreciate having it! Many men lost their lives to make it so.
 
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Hi there Oldhermit,

the NWT is NOT the word of God.


The NWT is a satanic counterfeit, just as the NIV, ESV, NASV, LB, NLT, CEV, Amp, Mess, etc. are.


The word of God is the King James Holy Bible. And there are no errors or mistakes in it.
I use the King Jim and it has numerous mistranslated words that have been tainted to an Anglican belief! It also contains transliterations of words that if translated would have offended the King of England and the 54 Episcopalians translators would have lost their heads....

Not to mention their own preface states clearly that they compared the King James with the first English versions of (well qualified men) and even state that there should be ONE MORE PERFECT TRANSLATION INTO THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE...

Worship the God of the Bible and not the man made translation!<-----Points to the God of the bible not the translation.
 
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Deuteronomy 16

King James Version (KJV)


16 Observe the month of Abib, and keep the passover unto the Lord thy God: for in the month of Abib the Lord thy God brought thee forth out of Egypt by night.

Month of Abib?

I am not knocking the KJV, and tried to make it clear that I do appreciate having it! Many men lost their lives to make it so.
Abib is the same month as Nisan, the first month. Like Tishri is the same month as Ethanim, the seventh month. It doesn't have anything to do with translations.
Nehemiah 2:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]And it came to pass in the month Nisan, in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes the king, that wine was before him: and I took up the wine, and gave it unto the king. Now I had not been beforetime sad in his presence.

Esther 3:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]In the first month, that is, the month Nisan, in the twelfth year of king Ahasuerus, they cast Pur, that is, the lot, before Haman from day to day, and from month to month, to the twelfth month, that is, the month Adar.

Exodus 13:3-4 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand the LORD brought you out from this place: there shall no leavened bread be eaten.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]This day came ye out in the month Abib.
 
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Karraster

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Abib is the same month as Nisan, the first month. Like Tishri is the same month as Ethanim, the seventh month. It doesn't have anything to do with translations.
Nehemiah 2:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]And it came to pass in the month Nisan, in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes the king, that wine was before him: and I took up the wine, and gave it unto the king. Now I had not been beforetime sad in his presence.

Esther 3:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]In the first month, that is, the month Nisan, in the twelfth year of king Ahasuerus, they cast Pur, that is, the lot, before Haman from day to day, and from month to month, to the twelfth month, that is, the month Adar.

Exodus 13:3-4 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand the LORD brought you out from this place: there shall no leavened bread be eaten.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]This day came ye out in the month Abib.
actually...it became acceptable c 1500s, nevertheless still a mistake, according to some/my research, and abib is a degree of ripeness in grain. Hebrew Ābhībh, literally, ear of grain. Also, kjv does not capitalize Passover. :(

Love u brother, but we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.:)
 
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actually...it became acceptable c 1500s, nevertheless still a mistake, according to some/my research, and abib is a degree of ripeness in grain. Hebrew Ābhībh, literally, ear of grain. Also, kjv does not capitalize Passover. :(

Love u brother, but we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.:)
I'm not defending anything, I'm only describing what is used today. No disagreement necessary. I have looked that up, and your definition you present is absolutely correct. The name is related to harvest times, because that's the beginning of first fruits in the feast of weeks starting in the first month of the Hebrew year. Another one is the word "Hebrew" it's related to the language Abraham spoke. I thought you didn't know what Abib was. I misunderstood. GBU
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Following the Law is quite different from following the law of man. The law of man says do not follow the Law but rather follow my law which is in His word lawlessness.
Why do you people keep going in circles? I never mentioned the law of man. I asked why would would follow something that has already been completed in you.. So would you like to try again?
You are false witnessing when you said "You are following the law, and claiming it is what makes you a good little boy and girl" because no one has said that.

Oh so you follow it just for the heck of it. Not to be good. vs being bad??

you will have to explain
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Would you show everyone under what circumstance I said David was under law? Or you just wanted to pull my words, and His Word for that matter, out of context to prove your point?

It would be my pleasure


Originally Posted by chubbena


Hope everyone understand it's extract from one of Spurgeon's sermons and Crossnote quoted this section to make a point. The original sermon is by no means throwing the first 39 books in the bible out of the window.
That said, the old covenant, if one is referring to the covenant itself rather than the first 39 books in the bible. Yes it did not mention conversion. But you are right, the saints in OT understood and knew the law converts.
When it's pulled out of context, everything goes.



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They knew it converted? How is this. Did any of them fulfill the law? David even understand sacrifice and burnt offering God did not desire.

The law never converted anyone. Only the pharisees and LAWyers thought this, And they rejected Christ. because he rejected their righteousness which came by the law (or so they thought)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I disagree about Abraham...

Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Now this is the same I AM who gave His Law to Moses on Mt. Sinai and then came in the flesh as Christ. If God is anything, He is consistent.
lol. Abraham did not have the law of Moses.

Abraham was however given commands to do. Such as leave his place of residence and go to a country. Sacrifice his son. Etc Etc.

Nice try though
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Colossians 2:10 says in Christ you are complete. Who is Christ? He's the Word, the whole council of Yahweh. If one neglects part of His Word, he is only partially complete.
What???????

It says IN CHRIST.. I am complete.. It does not say I am partially complete. It says I am complete. Talk about twisting the word of God.. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!

And what is this verse about in context?
Colossians 2:8 says "See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forcesof this world rather than on Christ."
Upholding the Law is no hollow and deceptive philosophy. The Law does not depend on human tradition. The Law is from the spoken word of Yahweh, that is, Christ, not from the elemental spiritual forces of this world.
My bible does not have Phil 6 so I am not sure what you are referring to.
lol. The law was given to lead you to Christ. I guess you have not found Christ. Keep looking. Maybe one day the law will find you. We can not discuss anything because all you want to do is twist the word. Good.
 
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What???????

It says IN CHRIST.. I am complete.. It does not say I am partially complete. It says I am complete. Talk about twisting the word of God.. WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!



lol. The law was given to lead you to Christ. I guess you have not found Christ. Keep looking. Maybe one day the law will find you. We can not discuss anything because all you want to do is twist the word. Good.
Another Mr. Twisty? Must be quite a few who like twizzlers licorice!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Another Mr. Twisty? Must be quite a few who like twizzlers licorice!
I honestly do not know where they come up with some of this. Then to actually say it, and how they can look at themselves in the mirror without being ashamed.
 
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I honestly do not know where they come up with some of this. Then to actually say it, and how they can look at themselves in the mirror without being ashamed.
I think they like the old tune "THE TWIST" hah!.....It is simple, the word of God is spiritual in nature and origin.....and the natural man has no ability to spiritually discern (judge) the word of God!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I think they like the old tune "THE TWIST" hah!.....It is simple, the word of God is spiritual in nature and origin.....and the natural man has no ability to spiritually discern (judge) the word of God!
It still should be easy..

In Christ. (My Position, with Christ as my head) I am complete..

does not get any clearer.