Passover/Unleavened Countdown . . .For Those Who Celebrate Them

[KohenMatt]

John 3:16 any questions. I have been called many things, I guess this is a knew one. Where do you find law in that verse?

Jesus loves you and law cannot save you it only condems

Right. No one is saying that it can.

 

[KohenMatt]

Might I ask why those who are celebrating the Passover when it has nothing to do with them?

I celebrate it to remember the miraculous atonement for Israel.
I celebrate it to remember the miraculous atonement and salvation God gave me through the life, death and resurrection of my Savior, which was done at Passover.

 

[john832]

The reason a person would eat a Passover meal is called stupidity.

Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:
Luk 22:16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.

If I were you, I would RUN to my prayer closet and take care of this matter.

 

[KohenMatt]

The "sader" Passover meal of the Jews, of today, is not at all, like the Passover Jesus kept with His disciples. The Sader meal is the Christian's interpretation of the old T. Passover. It is a beautiful presentation of Christ fulfillment of the Passover of the O.T. Karraster, How do you know there were 4 cups in the O.T. Passover? Love to all, Hoffco

As an aside, if you do the 4 cups during the Seder, be aware that you don't have to do 4 FULL cups of wine.
We did that at our first seder.
It was a fun seder.

 

[chubbena]

No one here is talking about being justified , or saved by the law or commandments. The law CANNOT save or justify us before God.

Application of the law or commands is for a completely different reason.

You can't win. Every time a word from the OT is mentioned and honored it will be classified as justification by the law. But if one questions if justification means we must throw out the OT he will be accused of twisting their word.
So be a good boy just let them lead.

 

[chubbena]

As an aside, if you do the 4 cups during the Seder, be aware that you don't have to do 4 FULL cups of wine.
We did that at our first seder.
It was a fun seder.

If you don't follow exactly, you will not be saved - let's see how soon one comes up with that

 

[SarahM777]

Yes I did and you keep wanting completely divorce obedience from grace. You keep saying that Law and Grace are mutually EXCLUSIVE. In reality they are mutually INCLUSIVE and salvation is give to those who do obey the Law...

Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

It is a matter of Law AND Grace and this seems to be a major problem to you.

No actually you did NOT read it this is what he said

Originally Posted by Hoffco

We must stop thinking and saying "The law of God never saved anyone" From the time of Adam and Eve sinners were saved according to the laws of God. Adam was saved by Grace as God sacrificed the lamb for them. Abel was saved by following God's law of the animal sacrifice. He believed and obeyed God's order to sacrifice an animal for his sin. Cain was lost because he disobeyed God law of the sac. lamb; Cain brought his veggies but God did not accept them, Cain was lost because he did not have faith and obedience to God. The true chosen of God have always been saved by Grace and in keeping God's laws. "The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul". What don't you people understand about this simple truth. Faith is always seen in obedience. Now that Jesus has done His sacrifice work, once for all,we are still saved by Grace, and our faith, and keeping the new laws of God. Love to all, Hoffco


He point blank says that people are SAVED by law.

 

[KohenMatt]

We just started clearing out our cabinets today of yeast. We'll be working through them bit by bit over the couple of weeks.

I had an awesome revelation a couple of years ago about going through all of the cabinets. I know full well that there is no yeast in bananas. Pretty obvious, right? But God showed me how there are so many areas of my life that I take for granted and assume is completely OK with Him, and without sin or defilement. Is that really the case? Or should I be willing to examine EVERY part of my life and ask God if it is pleasing to Him, or if it is defiling to me or others?

So back to the bananas....I made it a point to go through every cabinet and every piece of food in my kitchen and specifically aske, "Is there yeast in this?", knowing full that that there wasn't. As I was doing it, I was going through specific areas of my life asking God, "Is there sin in this area of my life?"

Let's just say I found yeast in my life I never even knew was there.

 

[Karraster]

I know what you mean brother Matt. Keeping Sabbath, observing the Feasts, ya know we think ourselves adults and that we learn in a grown up way, and not as how we would teach our children, such as a flashcard with a picture of an apple for the letter A. Reality is, I've been shown so much, have such a deeper understanding of God's Word since I began doing more of His instructions. We read words on a page not comprehending in a tangible way when we cannot/do not record that knowledge in a physical way. Kinda like reading a recipe and thinking what it tastes like, or getting the ingredients to make it. Hey, is that what is meant by taste and see the LORD is good? Well, if it's not, I think of it like that.

God uses lots of things to communicate with us. When we take the blueprints and build the house we have a 3 dimensional structure, not just a 2 dimensional sketch on paper.

I love this thread!!!Yeah!!!!

 

[chubbena]

We just started clearing out our cabinets today of yeast. We'll be working through them bit by bit over the couple of weeks.

I had an awesome revelation a couple of years ago about going through all of the cabinets. I know full well that there is no yeast in bananas. Pretty obvious, right? But God showed me how there are so many areas of my life that I take for granted and assume is completely OK with Him, and without sin or defilement. Is that really the case? Or should I be willing to examine EVERY part of my life and ask God if it is pleasing to Him, or if it is defiling to me or others?

So back to the bananas....I made it a point to go through every cabinet and every piece of food in my kitchen and specifically aske, "Is there yeast in this?", knowing full that that there wasn't. As I was doing it, I was going through specific areas of my life asking God, "Is there sin in this area of my life?"

Let's just say I found yeast in my life I never even knew was there.

It's like pulling weeds out of the lawn. The better the lawn becomes the more noticeable the remaining weeds are.

 

[chubbena]

I know what you mean brother Matt. Keeping Sabbath, observing the Feasts, ya know we think ourselves adults and that we learn in a grown up way, and not as how we would teach our children, such as a flashcard with a picture of an apple for the letter A. Reality is, I've been shown so much, have such a deeper understanding of God's Word since I began doing more of His instructions. We read words on a page not comprehending in a tangible way when we cannot/do not record that knowledge in a physical way. Kinda like reading a recipe and thinking what it tastes like, or getting the ingredients to make it. Hey, is that what is meant by taste and see the LORD is good? Well, if it's not, I think of it like that.

God uses lots of things to communicate with us. When we take the blueprints and build the house we have a 3 dimensional structure, not just a 2 dimensional sketch on paper.

I love this thread!!!Yeah!!!!

And one does not know how bloody and cruel it is until one tries slaughtering a one year old lamb which you have been keeping for 4 days. No, I don't need to physically try it. The imagination of it has already sent a shiver down my spine.

 

[Karraster]

And one does not know how bloody and cruel it is until one tries slaughtering a one year old lamb which you have been keeping for 4 days. No, I don't need to physically try it. The imagination of it has already sent a shiver down my spine.

I know. And ya know what? I guess I'm a slow learner, but not studying about the Jewish customs before, I didn't really think about what you just said, that is until a few months ago. I didn't even know about that part. Don't know why I was asleep for so long, but I've gained so much since realizing I am grafted in!

 

[john832]

We just started clearing out our cabinets today of yeast. We'll be working through them bit by bit over the couple of weeks.

I had an awesome revelation a couple of years ago about going through all of the cabinets. I know full well that there is no yeast in bananas. Pretty obvious, right? But God showed me how there are so many areas of my life that I take for granted and assume is completely OK with Him, and without sin or defilement. Is that really the case? Or should I be willing to examine EVERY part of my life and ask God if it is pleasing to Him, or if it is defiling to me or others?

So back to the bananas....I made it a point to go through every cabinet and every piece of food in my kitchen and specifically aske, "Is there yeast in this?", knowing full that that there wasn't. As I was doing it, I was going through specific areas of my life asking God, "Is there sin in this area of my life?"

Let's just say I found yeast in my life I never even knew was there.

I got my cars deleavened night before last. They are always a bear to clean.

 

[john832]

It's like pulling weeds out of the lawn. The better the lawn becomes the more noticeable the remaining weeds are.

Lessons to learn from that also. We never get every single crumb out. What a great lesson in that we are never perfect and sinless in this fleshly existence. Sin hides in us in ways we do nto recognize, David called them secret sins. God shows us more each year. As we mature, God shows us sins a babe doesn't recognize. Every year we get a deeper understanding of how much we need Christ and His sacrifice.

 

[john832]

And one does not know how bloody and cruel it is until one tries slaughtering a one year old lamb which you have been keeping for 4 days. No, I don't need to physically try it. The imagination of it has already sent a shiver down my spine.

This is what it cost for us to be redeemed. Sometimes I feel like Job...

Job 42:6 Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.

 

[Vaudeville]

8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

there is no greek article there. it actually says let us keep feast. the natural type gives way to the spiritual reality here.
not a once a year passover festival where you search for baking products in your kitchen, just as Christ is not sacrificed every year. the christian life is a continual love-feast.

proverbs 15-15 All the days of the oppressed are wretched, but the cheerful heart has a continual feast.

Leviticus 20:10-21
Proverbs 5:1-23
1 Corinthians 5
5 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.

3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,

4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.

11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

 

[Vaudeville]

I got my cars deleavened night before last. They are always a bear to clean.

is this a joke?

 

[john832]

is this a joke?

No, we actually put the leaven out of our dwellings during the Days of Unleavened Bread. I am assuming you do not.

 

[KohenMatt]

No, we actually put the leaven out of our dwellings during the Days of Unleavened Bread. I am assuming you do not.

I do it at work too, although that's not as much of a task as at home.

 

[KohenMatt]

8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

there is no greek article there. it actually says let us keep feast. the natural type gives way to the spiritual reality here.
not a once a year passover festival where you search for baking products in your kitchen, just as Christ is not sacrificed every year. the christian life is a continual love-feast.

You're right, it is continual, but that doesn't negate a specific rememberance.