The Holy Spirit and the Supernatural Orb Explored (Scripture Examined)

[notforgotten]

does $ $ $ $ $ make something right?
10,000 screaming Elvis fans can't be wrong? that's your argument.

when the Holy Spirit descended on the disciples at Pentecost, they could do nothing by extol God.
now you say "i've heard of people who turned to Christ after seeing a supernatural orb..." but none of the evidence you've given supports this fantastic claim. instead every one of them points at new-age mysticism and flaccid, inconsistent and confused faux-spiritualism.

scripture says "test every spirit" and that "the spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God"
i suggest you do that very thing, and stop worshiping dust particles and chasing after every hint of spirituality as though there is no such thing as a demon.

you still have not given an answer why none of those 'testimonies' you linked to confess Christ.

thanks for the whacko-thread. i enjoy photography.

Humor me for a moment. What if you are wrong and the supernatural orb is the Holy Spirit? Think about what you are doing? You are attempting to fake photographs to discredit Him. You have no way of knowing that it is not Him, yet you claim to know it is not Him. During the time Jesus was here in body there were a great number of people who saw Him and heard Him speak that still did not believe He was the Son of God or the messiah. Christ was standing right before them, yet not only did they not see it but couldn't believe it. I've shown you enough throughout this thread using scripture and otherwise indicting that the supernatural orb is the Holy Spirit and yet you still cannot see it, nor believe. It is funny how people haven't changed throughout the years.

 

[newbirth]

No comment you are alone on this one...

 

[notforgotten]

No comment you are alone on this one...

It was merely an analogy. They tried to discredit our Lord and Savior as well.

 

[posthuman]

Humor me for a moment. What if you are wrong and the supernatural orb is the Holy Spirit? Think about what you are doing? You are attempting to fake photographs to discredit Him.

i'm taking pictures of pollen, and rejoicing in the great beauty of the handiwork of the Creator.
i'm not "trying to fake pictures of the Holy Spirit"
if the actual Holy Spirit shows up in a photograph, boy howdy, we'll all know it.

You have no way of knowing that it is not Him, yet you claim to know it is not Him.

to the contrary, yes, i do.

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God:

every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God.​

This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.
(1 John 4:1-3)

apply this to the 'supernatural orb testimonies' you've provided, please.

I've shown you enough throughout this thread using scripture and otherwise indicting that the supernatural orb is the Holy Spirit and yet you still cannot see it, nor believe.

no, you haven't. all the evidence you've given has been convincing of quite the opposite.

It is funny how people haven't changed throughout the years.

a very wise & somewhat cynical man once said:

there is nothing new under the sun​

 

[psalm6819]

Matthew 3:16 And Jesus when he was baptised, went straightway out of the water and lo the heavens opened unto him and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting upon him.

notforgotten, you said noone had seen the Holy Spirit?????? The Bible doesn't say an orb descended on Jesus.

Read Mark 1:10

 

[notforgotten]

Matthew 3:16 And Jesus when he was baptised, went straightway out of the water and lo the heavens opened unto him and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting upon him.

notforgotten, you said noone had seen the Holy Spirit?????? The Bible doesn't say an orb descended on Jesus.

Read Mark 1:10

I'm sorry, but I never said that none had seen the Holy Spirit. The scripture that you had mentioned describes the Holy Spirit in motion descending like a dove. Here is a video which demonstrates how the supernatural orb descends like a dove. Keep in mind that this is merely a demonstration and that the Holy Spirit descending upon or Lord Jesus would have been much more. We can't expect much and have to make do with what we have. Thank you.

[video=dailymotion;xfp2v1]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfp2v1_best-evidence-of-flying-orbs_news[/video]

An orbital description of the Holy Spirit is given by Ezekiel in his Vision of God, Ezekiel 15-21. This video is merely to show how the supernatural orb descends like a dove.

 

[notforgotten]

There should be no argument that the above orbs are indeed descending like a dove. If need be, I could make this exhibit one and proceed to lead a vary convincing case that the supernatural orb is indeed the Holy Spirit.

 

[notforgotten]

Let's look again at this acrylic painting inspired by Father God through a dream and painted by a 10 year old genius. She is obviously God's little artist.
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By: Child Prodigy Akiane Kramarik entitled, "Pyramid".

...In one of my dreams I saw the image of white pyramids beaten by the ocean waves and surrounded by live bubbles.

Unlike most of my paintings, I had no idea what those symbols meant, but I painted them anyway.

Today the meaning still remains a riddle...

- Akiane Kramarik

Exhibit 2:

Genesis 1:2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit.

Here is a picture of the supernatural orb hovering over the face of the earth.

The supernatural orb can just as easily hover over water.

 

[notforgotten]

There should be no question nor debate that the supernatural orb does hover and can easily hover over water. Thus the supernatural orb does hover and descends like the Holy Spirit per scripture.

 

[Simona25]

Notice the orb in the picture of Father God and Jesus on their thrones.

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The Trinity Adored by: Peter Paul Rubens (1577-1640)

Although, modern day interpretation of this painting would have the symbolic dove representing the Holy Spirit. How would you explain this particular type of orb under Father God's left arm?

I'm sorry for the off-topic. I was just wondering on what basis can we represent God the Father as an old man?

 

[RickyZ]

You can stop trolling now and get back on topic. This thread is not about me personally, but about the Holy Spirit. Thank you.

Yes the thread is about the Holy Spirit; but you present yourself as the one and only viable - and unquestionable - expert on Him. So yeah, I think that makes this about you. The thing to remember about the Holy Spirit is, that blaspheming Him is the one and only thing you can do to get kicked out. So when I see a brother being deceived on things of the Holy Spirit, I take offense, based upon my experience with not just the Holy Spirit but the entire spiritual realm. In the Name of Jesus, I command the liars and deceivers to be silent and bound! I don't care one way or another about your orbs and pollen specks, this is about what's in your mind and your heart and how that relates to the Holy Spirit. And what I'm seeing coming out of it so far ain't Holy.

I've lived a very hard, long, and strange 57 years. You think I can't understand your experiences? You should try some of mine. Stuff that'll just spin your head.

I've been praying for you. I really want to hear some of your experiences, and I promise to do so with an open mind. PM me if you will, perhaps you're right that out in the public isn't the place to air it . But honestly, I'd like to at least try to understand it.

 

[posthuman]

Here is a video which demonstrates how the supernatural orb descends like a dove. Keep in mind that this is merely a demonstration and that the Holy Spirit descending upon or Lord Jesus would have been much more. We can't expect much and have to make do with what we have. Thank you.

[video=dailymotion;xfp2v1]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfp2v1_best-evidence-of-flying-orbs_news[/video]

An orbital description of the Holy Spirit is given by Ezekiel in his Vision of God, Ezekiel 15-21. This video is merely to show how the supernatural orb descends like a dove.

check out that user's other videos:

1) CIA Mind Control - what sounds like a teenage girl describing being coached by an older male voice into saying she was taken out of class, beaten, hypnotized and interrogated for no reason by teachers & federal agents, without any explanation. the video is set to a picture of a pagan goddess.

2) a video of a man being tasered.

there is no mention of Jesus at all, not even an anonymous 'god'

if a spirit does not confess Jesus, it is not from God.

i can put a tub of dust off-camera in front of a fan in a messy apartment too. why do you think that's some kind of 'proof'??
do i need to take video of the pollen flying around in my yard? it's raining tonite, so you'll have to wait.
do you want to see video of an actual dove flying?
you think the Apostles and the prophet were so nearsighted they couldn't tell the difference between a blob of indistinct light and a dove? there is certainly ample vocabulary in the Greek language to describe a luminous ball.

i'm not even saying that the Holy Spirit didn't manifest itself to you as a ball of light -- although if it did, i wonder why you don't talk about Jesus instead of glorifying supernatural mystery ghost orbs and glitter.


how long will you ignore my questions? i am ready to answer all of yours.

• if the Holy Spirit appeared at pentecost like fire, is every flame the Holy Spirit?

• why can't you show us one single example of a mysterious ghost blob visitation leading to an observer manically praising God and lifting up the name of Christ? or even so much as mentioning​ Jesus?

 

[posthuman]

Exhibit 2:

Genesis 1:2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit.

Here is a picture of the supernatural orb hovering over the face of the earth.
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The supernatural orb can just as easily hover over water.

that looks exactly like the pictures of dust i've been posting. this isn't any sort of "proof" of anything but my claim that all of the photographs in this thread are of dust, water, pollen or some other microscopic, air-born particle.

you might as well post something like this:



and claim "the Holy Spirit is an helicopter! it's hovering over the surface of the waters!"

 

[posthuman]

I've been praying for you. I really want to hear some of your experiences, and I promise to do so with an open mind. PM me if you will, perhaps you're right that out in the public isn't the place to air it . But honestly, I'd like to at least try to understand it.

i'd like to hear exactly what your experience is too. i'm not putting away that you could have been given a vision of the Spirit that looks something like these pictures at all - what i'm railing against is two things: that the photographs & video are not images of spirit, and that it's foolish to believe every spirit - much less every report on the internet of one - is from God, and even less so that it's categorically the Holy Spirit.

i'm not attacking you personally (except that i think you're a little bonkers - and believe me, we share that, i don't mean it as a slight) or your own relationship with God. i'm attacking deception & wicked spirits.

 

[notforgotten]

I'm sorry for the off-topic. I was just wondering on what basis can we represent God the Father as an old man?

I apologize, I was in error for bringing up the globe under Father God's left arm in that painting. The globe actually represents the world. I'm only human and as such am subject to error.

 

[posthuman]

i walked outside with my camera onto the house's deck. i set the shutter speed very high, focus at infinity and turned on the flash. stabilizing the camera, pointed at the sky, i got this picture:



and many similar ones.
every once in a while i would get something like this picture:



my shutter speed was a bit too high i think, and i was close to the house, so there is some backscatter from the flash.
these are starting to turn out really beautiful; thanks for your part in influencing me to take them.
. . almost like stars . .

 

[notforgotten]

check out that user's other videos:

1) CIA Mind Control - what sounds like a teenage girl describing being coached by an older male voice into saying she was taken out of class, beaten, hypnotized and interrogated for no reason by teachers & federal agents, without any explanation. the video is set to a picture of a pagan goddess.

2) a video of a man being tasered.

there is no mention of Jesus at all, not even an anonymous 'god'

if a spirit does not confess Jesus, it is not from God.

i can put a tub of dust off-camera in front of a fan in a messy apartment too. why do you think that's some kind of 'proof'??
do i need to take video of the pollen flying around in my yard? it's raining tonite, so you'll have to wait.
do you want to see video of an actual dove flying?
you think the Apostles and the prophet were so nearsighted they couldn't tell the difference between a blob of indistinct light and a dove? there is certainly ample vocabulary in the Greek language to describe a luminous ball.

i'm not even saying that the Holy Spirit didn't manifest itself to you as a ball of light -- although if it did, i wonder why you don't talk about Jesus instead of glorifying supernatural mystery ghost orbs and glitter.


how long will you ignore my questions? i am ready to answer all of yours.

• if the Holy Spirit appeared at pentecost like fire, is every flame the Holy Spirit?

• why can't you show us one single example of a mysterious ghost blob visitation leading to an observer manically praising God and lifting up the name of Christ? or even so much as mentioning​ Jesus?

It is not necessary to check out the user's other videos. I'm not attempting to discredit people and things like you are. I am merely using this one video to demonstrate how the supernatural orb descends in flight. And it does. And it hovers as well, if you're not happy with that one picture, there are at least 1000 more on the internet showing the orb hovering. The vast majority of photographs on the internet are not fake. For that matter you are the only one that I even know of that is trying to fake them. You are the only Christian that I know of that insist on trying to fake real pictures of the Holy Spirit. You say that you know it is not the Holy Spirit and quote scripture that you probably do not even understand. What would it be to you if the Holy Spirit did not glorify Christ?...and did not appease your expectations? How can you, someone who has never seen the Holy Spirit tell someone like me, who has seen the Holy Spirit, that I'm wrong? That's ridiculous and that my friend is what you are being - ridiculous!

 

[posthuman]

It is not necessary to check out the user's other videos. I'm not attempting to discredit people and things like you are.

i was trying to find evidence of the one true God in the user's life.
if they were actually taking videos of the Holy Spirit, don't you think it'd be reasonable to find them at least mentioning the Saviour at some point?
but i failed miserably. i found blatant evidence of pagan idolatry & falsehood.

I am merely using this one video to demonstrate how the supernatural orb descends in flight. And it does. And it hovers as well, if you're not happy with that one picture, there are at least 1000 more on the internet showing the orb hovering.

no, what you did was give evidence of how dust floats in air. i bet there's some dust on your ceiling fan. go shake it up a bit and turn on the fan. you'll see exactly the same thing.
the way that dust floats in air is not in question.

The vast majority of photographs on the internet are not fake.

correct! they are all actual pictures of dust, not fake.

For that matter you are the only one that I even know of that is trying to fake them. You are the only Christian that I know of that insist on trying to fake real pictures of the Holy Spirit. You say that you know it is not the Holy Spirit and quote scripture that you probably do not even understand.

i'm not faking pictures of the Holy Spirit. i'm taking pictures of dust & water droplets, just like all the people on the ghost-hunters websites that you link pics and blurbs from. the difference is i'm not lying about it -- i'm telling you exactly what i'm taking pictures of and how the pictures were taken.

and they're beautiful! thanks again for getting me started on this little art project
you never said - do you like them? at least, in a purely aesthetic sense?

What would it be to you if the Holy Spirit did not glorify Christ?...and did not appease your expectations?

it would be a contradiction of scripture. John 16:14
doesn't it bother you in the slightest that the testimonies from mysteriousglowingorbspiritpower.com don't agree with God's Word?

How can you, someone who has never seen the Holy Spirit tell someone like me, who has seen the Holy Spirit, that I'm wrong? That's ridiculous and that my friend is what you are being - ridiculous!

how do you know i haven't seen the Holy Spirit? how do you know i haven't seen spirits good and evil?
how do you know i wasn't a brujo before i was saved, with power to send glowing blobs of wicked spirit into people, and to pull the same out of others?
what are you basing that on? the fact that i've got some amount of training in logic & photography?

 

[notforgotten]

Let me explain things quite simply. Jesus had revealed the Holy Spirit to me twice. I do know what He looks like and can speak on such matters with certainty. You on the other hand have not seen the Holy Spirit and cannot speak on such matters with any certainty at all. Case closed!

 

[dcontroversal]

Just how would the Holy Spirit point to Jesus? I've demonstrated a great deal of truth about the Holy Spirit (supernatural orb) through scripture. Any scripture from the NT would point to Jesus. Quite frankly, I don't think that you people know much about the Holy Spirit at all, otherwise you could see the truth in what I've said. Yet, you show that you know very little.

The Holy Spirit is not easy to understand. I've had a very real ten year relationship with the Holy Spirit. And through my experience and scripture I have a better understanding then the majority of people in this world.

Well......

1st You don't know me or what I know and or have studied the last almost 40 years.....
2nd I can read and Jesus taught clearly that the H.S. will testify of and point to Jesus...
3rd I have had a relationship with the Holy Spirit since the day I was SEALED with the HOLY SPIRIT of PROMISE

And lastly.....all I did was make a reference to a direct quote given by Jesus in the bible....if you want to reject that in favor of your ideas then have a ball friend......