AM I JEW OR A GENTILE IF I KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS ?
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Thats because you REFUSE to listen to Scripture.
2 Corinthians 3:7 [ Glory of the New Covenant ] But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
You want to bring the ministry of death back into the church.
2 Corinthians 3:7 [ Glory of the New Covenant ] But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
You want to bring the ministry of death back into the church.
I've been away for awhile and amazed! Here is that word "focused" again. Haven't you heard of the word "balanced". Or fitting things together in their proper place. Or thinking things through without all or nothing thinking. Or being rational. or listening to God? I think the focus idea would have to go if any of these ideas were to be used.
If you want to use focus in your life, then focus on Christ. Then law would fit into its rightful slot, not shut out and not front and center.
If you want to use focus in your life, then focus on Christ. Then law would fit into its rightful slot, not shut out and not front and center.
right ok your explanation is worthy of an reply but i don't know why and i don't know fully what went on but what i do know is this i hope it helps you.
As you know from scripture satan was walking the land and he also met up with Jesus well guess what he is also walking with other people and you and i know he still does that today.
i love you as a brother in Christ as i would not want you to fall or anybody that is the worst possible a christian could is wish someone dead so i will not do that,
this is not a race for me to be in heaven before anyone else and to honest with you if someones harms my family or my loved ones i help and i take them under my wing and i don't throw them into a pit, but sadly dan when people attack other people with racism that is what will happen some people may survive and strug it of but if people keep attacking that person or people they could fall, but if they the love of God this is not likely to happen,
recognizing that it is god who gives you the grace and it is God who keeps the enemy from your door and also your brothers door by loving them is what every christian should adere to for there brothers and sister to and that is love not hate.
if we attack the jews and blame the Jews we are not better than the Jews who attacked Jesus,
Ifwe love the Jews and pray them over thiss passove festiavl and everyone then maybe the world might be a better place for a while.
I am very weak right now pleas pray for me
As you know from scripture satan was walking the land and he also met up with Jesus well guess what he is also walking with other people and you and i know he still does that today.
i love you as a brother in Christ as i would not want you to fall or anybody that is the worst possible a christian could is wish someone dead so i will not do that,
this is not a race for me to be in heaven before anyone else and to honest with you if someones harms my family or my loved ones i help and i take them under my wing and i don't throw them into a pit, but sadly dan when people attack other people with racism that is what will happen some people may survive and strug it of but if people keep attacking that person or people they could fall, but if they the love of God this is not likely to happen,
recognizing that it is god who gives you the grace and it is God who keeps the enemy from your door and also your brothers door by loving them is what every christian should adere to for there brothers and sister to and that is love not hate.
if we attack the jews and blame the Jews we are not better than the Jews who attacked Jesus,
Ifwe love the Jews and pray them over thiss passove festiavl and everyone then maybe the world might be a better place for a while.
I am very weak right now pleas pray for me
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So me being pleasing before God will cause Him to file me under 'I never knew you', when it says that love fulfills God's Law (moral laws)? So when He tells me not to go with thieves and I hearken to His Spirit and not go, He will judge me as someone He does not know, although I only did what He says not to do? When He says to feed the hungry and I do, He will disown me because I followed His command?
I do, however, agree with you that mixing Law with Grace is foolish and 'suicidal'. But, I do not think morality is being a legalist, when it says:
Rom 8:1, 4 .......who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 13:13 Let us walk honestly.....
Gal 5:16 Walk in (by) the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
Eph 4:1 ...walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called.
Eph 4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind
etc...
I do, however, agree with you that mixing Law with Grace is foolish and 'suicidal'. But, I do not think morality is being a legalist, when it says:
Rom 8:1, 4 .......who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 13:13 Let us walk honestly.....
Gal 5:16 Walk in (by) the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
Eph 4:1 ...walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called.
Eph 4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind
etc...
I sure do! I want to have the church know what leads to death. I don't want to shut my ears to anything God has to tell me. If I am going to Christ for forgiveness, I want to know from all sources what I am to ask forgiveness for, both the Holy Spirit and what is written about it. I just can't swallow your idea and telling me over and over and over that I may not listen to scripture.
If a gun can kill, would you tell someone that if they learned anything about guns so they could stay away from them, that was being killed by the gun they would wonder about your sanity.
If a gun can kill, would you tell someone that if they learned anything about guns so they could stay away from them, that was being killed by the gun they would wonder about your sanity.
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No we cannot. But, when we do listen to the Spirit and do as He hearkens, we are being moral. That is to say, we as humans do not completely comply with the Spirit 100% of the time. But, does mean that we are not to try to be as our Father? No. We should at least stand back up and try again, seeing that it is a righteous man who does stand up 7 times and continue onward.
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The church already knows. That is why they are the church. If they do not know. then they are not part of the church.
Then why are you? He said he abolished the law and commandments, Why do you deny what he says? (Unless you think Paul was not inspired by God)
so you do not think you are already forgiven? Thats the problem right there. Thats why it is dangerous to mix law and grace. A child of God knows he is forgiven, Thanks God, and moves on. And prays next time he is tempted, he will look to the spirit and not the flesh.
Nothing can kill a child of God. He has the HS as his seal and guarantee. If I child of God does not understand this, He is never going to grow. Live in fear, and most likely walk away because the fear is to great
Then why are you? He said he abolished the law and commandments, Why do you deny what he says? (Unless you think Paul was not inspired by God)
so you do not think you are already forgiven? Thats the problem right there. Thats why it is dangerous to mix law and grace. A child of God knows he is forgiven, Thanks God, and moves on. And prays next time he is tempted, he will look to the spirit and not the flesh.
Nothing can kill a child of God. He has the HS as his seal and guarantee. If I child of God does not understand this, He is never going to grow. Live in fear, and most likely walk away because the fear is to great
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Did Jesus worry about committing adultery? Fornication, About breaking the sabbath? About coveting what the king of Rome had (being he was rightful king) About honoring his parents? About loving the Lord his god? ABout having to lie to get out of something?
Seems to me Jesus had far more important things to worry about then what sin was. Namely, what was his fathers plan in his life.
Seems to me Jesus had far more important things to worry about then what sin was. Namely, what was his fathers plan in his life.
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amen,
and if we are to be like jesus, we should not focus on following the ten commandments either, we should focus on Gods plan in our life.
thats another reason they are abolished.
Not only can they not condemn us anymore. but we have more iportant things to worry about than continually worrying about not sinning.
only a non believer has to worry about not sinning, because sin condemns him.
and if we are to be like jesus, we should not focus on following the ten commandments either, we should focus on Gods plan in our life.
thats another reason they are abolished.
Not only can they not condemn us anymore. but we have more iportant things to worry about than continually worrying about not sinning.
only a non believer has to worry about not sinning, because sin condemns him.
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Tell ya what, let's not get into that. Your mind is made up and you will somehow deny the dozen or so scriptures that refutes the OSAS doctrine. You believe what you want, and I'll believe what the bible says. 
The law can not condemn you anymore. It has been abolished.
The best proof of OSAS there has ever been. In fact the only proof one needs. To deny OSAS is to deny the law has been abolished. ANd to place yourself back under law.
Funny thing is, You have been arguing for it right along side me and did not even know it.
Anyway, I do not know what that has to do with whether a christian can be sinless or not