“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,”

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JimJimmers

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SonInMe,

You are racist. I don't vote for Democrats. You, Clive, and a couple of other folks are sorely mistaken based on watching media and the miniscule (relatively speaking) amount of black people around you.

This is exactly what I was talking about. This is the natural inclination of the white people who live fairly separated from black people. Look to your right. Look to your left. Ghetto black people! Look on the TV. Ghetto black people! All black people must be like this! They were better off in our fields! I bet that's your thought whenever some black person did something wrong to you as well. This is likely how you were brought up and MANY other white people so I don't blame you for it. But I do see a profound need for repentance.

How do I know all this stuff besides the fact that I am black? Because I see it ALL the time. I went to college with people who had hardly ever seen black people before. I'm also in the military with people who had maybe 2 black people in their high school.

Consider your ways.

I'd just like to add, Ecclesiastik, that even in the ghettos there are many hard-working people without the funds to move into a nice suburban home. I'm not suggesting that you don't know this, I just want it to be on the record for all to see.

If you live in a place where 1 in 5 people are thieves, you live in a high-crime area. An outsider might avoid that area, but anyone with common sense would know that means 80% of the folks who live there are not thieves.
 

JimJimmers

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I don't see what he said was racist, other than using an outdated phrase.
Let me spell it out for you, Son.

“They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton."

That's what most of us consider "racist".
 

JimJimmers

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a truly insightful analysis. and all along i thought racism, poverty, lousy schools, and the hopelessness of poverty had something to do with the the anerican problems of race and poverty. now that i understand that it's that darned government again i think we should all just buy ak47s and move to somalia wheres there's no government to ruin society.
You can't really blame lousy schools and not the government, unless you're complaining about poorly-performing private schools.
 
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Let me spell it out for you, Son.

“They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton."

That's what most of us consider "racist".
He was equating slavery to the welfare mentality when he said they never learned to pick cotton. In other words if people had picked cotton then they would respect the freedom they had and not sell it to the state for a welfare check.
 
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Ecclesiastik

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He was equating slavery to the welfare mentality when he said they never learned to pick cotton. In other words if people had picked cotton then they would respect the freedom they had and not sell it to the state for a welfare check.
Please refer to my post on the first page.
 

tourist

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I'm not racist in fact I've had black friends but he has a point a little bit. It's touchy bit I'm not sure in the full context it was racist at all he's just saying it gave them something to do and stability slavery isn't half bad and if were honest were all slaves to the government. Just remember whose name is on the money you spend your life working for. It isn't yours I promise:) lol
He is stereotyping the African-American population. I don't consider his statement to be racist, but rather based on ignorance. He has had his 15 minutes of fame.
 
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jjtj22

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Our mission here on earth was never to drive by people and look and make judgements, (not to mention on a whole race), it was to LOVE. This guy lost the plot.
Best thing I have read on cc yet!​
 
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I interact with a probably more diverse base of people than most people do in other parts of this nation as I live in south Florida.

What you do not understand about me is unlike so many liberals, I don't see the color when I look at someone. No one to me is black or white or asian or jew or even gentile.

You see someone make comments you think are prejudice because you are not accustomed to comments about race that are anything but the liberal baloney forced fed us by the media.

I am not a racist because I am conservative, just a fyi there.

The reaction to these rather blunt statements by a guy who is a farmer, not a politician is interesting. To be honest this is more about, once again, hiding the actions of a swindling government behind publicing attacking a man who is not politically correct.

I have heard of many conservatives coming against him as well, saying these remarks are racist. What these remarks are, are, for the most part poorly chosen words by a man of a past generation speaking a very uncomfortable truth......

african americans have sold their freedom for the liberal ideal of big government, lack of personal integrity and that, more than any other factor has hurt that community more than any perceived racism ever could......

but to attack that notion is to be called a racist by an ideology that has no factual foundation, only the ability to call names and get people emotionally motivated by thinking theya re ''good'' people if they follow this compassionate ideology.

Baloney.

Call me a racist and you only define yourself, not me.
 

Drett

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Time for some definitions

Racist : a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

whether that is in intelligence, honesty, work ethics or whatever

Bigot :
having or revealing an obstinate belief in the superiority of one's own opinions and a prejudiced intolerance of the opinions of others
 
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Well, I´m proud to be a NEGRO, but I´m not happy the way -many of them- wanted me to live. If you were in Venezuela, if you travel a little around Colombia, you will know what I felt but, the PROBLEM IS NOT INSIDE THE RACE, not in the color of people, but in the way we have chosen to live (or the way we wanted others to live).

I´m happy I´m a sordid mixture of races: European and native Venezuelan Indian, but the Christian lifestyle is above all these cliche standards and, I wish I had the heavenly citizenship we´re going to receive, anyday God wants us to.

:)
 
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oldernotwiser

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its been more than 20 years but i remember a friend at a state university in new england. he was black, overweight, and about 5'8". we sat in the coffee shop one morning with him venting lol. he was both angry and amused when white students would say things like "you must be really good to get a basketball scholarship." well he did have a full scholarship ....... he was not a basketball player he was a piano player and it was a music scholarship.
 
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oldernotwiser

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hermit, i have a strong anabaptist element in my theology and the anabaptists see being saved and becoming a part of the church as entering gods kingdom. this makes us "resident aliens" in whatever national or ethnic group in which we live for the time being
 
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kayem77

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I interact with a probably more diverse base of people than most people do in other parts of this nation as I live in south Florida.

What you do not understand about me is unlike so many liberals, I don't see the color when I look at someone. No one to me is black or white or asian or jew or even gentile.

You see someone make comments you think are prejudice because you are not accustomed to comments about race that are anything but the liberal baloney forced fed us by the media.

I am not a racist because I am conservative, just a fyi there.

The reaction to these rather blunt statements by a guy who is a farmer, not a politician is interesting. To be honest this is more about, once again, hiding the actions of a swindling government behind publicing attacking a man who is not politically correct.

I have heard of many conservatives coming against him as well, saying these remarks are racist. What these remarks are, are, for the most part poorly chosen words by a man of a past generation speaking a very uncomfortable truth......

african americans have sold their freedom for the liberal ideal of big government, lack of personal integrity and that, more than any other factor has hurt that community more than any perceived racism ever could......

but to attack that notion is to be called a racist by an ideology that has no factual foundation, only the ability to call names and get people emotionally motivated by thinking theya re ''good'' people if they follow this compassionate ideology.

Baloney.

Call me a racist and you only define yourself, not me.
As Christians we shouldn't try to politicize every issue. It doesn't matter if the guy is a liberal or a conservative, what matters is the content of what he was saying. What he said was wrong, as simple as that. I'm a conservative and I still think his comments were racist, or at least very insensitive and foolish.
He could've said ''People[not only one group of people] should stop relying on the government for help, and instead try harder to make a living'' or something like that, but no, he said that blacks are not doing well ''because they never learned how to pick cotton''. If that's not racist, then I don't know what is. It's kind of like saying that the Jews were better off when they were in concentration camps. Simply not true, and extremely foolish and insensitive to those who were there.
 
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Ecclesiastik

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I interact with a probably more diverse base of people than most people do in other parts of this nation as I live in south Florida.

What you do not understand about me is unlike so many liberals, I don't see the color when I look at someone. No one to me is black or white or asian or jew or even gentile.

You see someone make comments you think are prejudice because you are not accustomed to comments about race that are anything but the liberal baloney forced fed us by the media.

I am not a racist because I am conservative, just a fyi there.

The reaction to these rather blunt statements by a guy who is a farmer, not a politician is interesting. To be honest this is more about, once again, hiding the actions of a swindling government behind publicing attacking a man who is not politically correct.

I have heard of many conservatives coming against him as well, saying these remarks are racist. What these remarks are, are, for the most part poorly chosen words by a man of a past generation speaking a very uncomfortable truth......

african americans have sold their freedom for the liberal ideal of big government, lack of personal integrity and that, more than any other factor has hurt that community more than any perceived racism ever could......

but to attack that notion is to be called a racist by an ideology that has no factual foundation, only the ability to call names and get people emotionally motivated by thinking theya re ''good'' people if they follow this compassionate ideology.

Baloney.

Call me a racist and you only define yourself, not me.
So by being black that automatically makes me a liberal and a slave to the government? You truly are lost and you don't even know it. It seems like you wear your political feelings on your sleeve more than your faith. Which one is more important? Maybe you should change your name to RepublicanInMe or (more appropriate to what you have been saying) KlanInMe.

I am black. I am pretty certain I know a WHOLE LOT more black people than you do and I know them more intimately than you do. I don't think you could really have any true black friends with your feelings about them. What you have is called a superiority complex and general ignorance (not stupidity but a lack of knowledge). With that combination, you have come to a false belief that helps you sleep better at night putting everyone in a scapegoated category that you can blame for problems with society.

You truly need to repent. You are playing the role of Satan, the accuser of the brethren right now. Because I am an African-American brother standing in front of you and you are showing me 0 love and 100% indifference because of your paltry political feelings. God humbles the proud.
 
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Ecclesiastik

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To add on, I am accustomed to diversity and to comments on race. I've been in the U.S. Air Force for years, I went to a large high school (Over 900 in my graduating class), I went to a Big 10 University, I've been to a community college, and I am currently living in Italy. I was in a fraternity with mostly white people too. I realize when people have correct perceptions when it comes to race and when they have incorrect ones. I can even take a joke when it comes to race (I'm usually one of the folks dishing them out). I've seriously called someone a racist less times than I can count on my fingers in my life, including yourself.

The problem, once again, is when people seriously live amongst a relatively small population of black people (without really taking the time to get to know many of them) and watch the television then come to the conclusion that they have ultimate knowledge concerning the minority population. I've seen this happen over and over again. It even was true of my wife's grandparents (who is white). They didn't want her to marry a black man at first because of their misconceptions of black people.
 
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jennymae

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I think we need to rethink this. We have to realize racism exists. It goes both ways, but of course, the real problem is on the minority end. I don't consider myself a racist, but I can sometimes feel a fear whenever folks not my race outnumbers me in a community. I'm not afraid of them, and I dont label them bad people, but I'm thinking about all the racism they have experienced from my race through the years, and that they might want to let me collect the payback. I know it is not right, but I can't help it. I believe others may can feel this fear, and sometimes this fear comes out all wrong - and is labelled racism. I dont' know, this is just a thought.
 

JimJimmers

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I'll try one last time to make you understand, Son.

Fact: White people commit suicide at a rate more than twice that of black people. If anyone, black or white, wanted to comment on this, that's fine with me.

Now just suppose a black man says, "White folks in America keep killing themselves. Maybe if they were still being scalped by Native Americans, they would have learned how to value life."

Would you not consider that racist?