why i don't believe in hell and I've never been happier

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I just can't believe only Christians or Muslims etc. have a monopoly on heaven.....you could easily have been born somewhere else and believe something else, and every religion thinks they are the right ones, everyone truly believes they are right, is really sad :/
 
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I just can't believe only Christians or Muslims etc. have a monopoly on heaven.....you could easily have been born somewhere else and believe something else, and every religion thinks they are the right ones, everyone truly believes they are right, is really sad :/
Aye but only one religion, Christianity, have any basis in Truth. That is the difference between all the religions to put it shortly.
 

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I just can't believe only Christians or Muslims etc. have a monopoly on heaven.....you could easily have been born somewhere else and believe something else, and every religion thinks they are the right ones, everyone truly believes they are right, is really sad :/
If I may give you some clarification as to why that is so, here it is. The Law of non-contradiction. It can't be raining, and not raining in the same place and the same time in the same spot. Meaning, your car can't be parked and not parked, at the same time in the same place. Do you understand? In the same way, either all religions are false or one is true. You can't die and go to heaven, and hell at the same time. Or, you can't die and go to heaven and Nirvana at the same time. Either one is false and the other is right, or both are wrong.

I hope that clarifies to you, why there is such a thing as "being right." It is because of the Law of Non-contradiction, and through it, you realize that one is true, and the other false, or all are wrong. You can't be in all the places all the religions say at the same time, place and period. It is one or the other.

It is the job of such a religion to then argue its case (starting from the point that all are wrong or one is right). :)

Definition: It states that contradictory statements cannot both be true in the same sense at the same time, e.g. the two propositions "A is B" and "A is not B" are mutually exclusive.
 
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I just can't believe only Christians or Muslims etc. have a monopoly on heaven.....you could easily have been born somewhere else and believe something else, and every religion thinks they are the right ones, everyone truly believes they are right, is really sad :/
Adam and Eve taught their children to love God and live godly lives. Their children's descendants passed on the faith, while others rejected it. But at the beginning all knew God. The Bible records that deep down God has given us all a hunger for Him that only Christ can fill. Also, I remember Jesus Christ saying something about Him being the Only Way, the Only Truth, and the Only Life. No one comes to the Father except through me (Christ talking). That doesn't allow anything but Him being the only way to God the Father. If the God of the Bible is the one true God, He should be the only one worshipped. It's fine to question, it's fine to discuss but you're promoting non-Christian beliefs and trying to get others to believe them on a site called CHRISTIAN CHAT.
 
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There is only one that is right

John 3:18
Whoever believes in him is not condemned,
but whoever does not believe stands condemned already
because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.


Miss Lacey, try to embrace what Christ has done for you
We don't become mini rulers and getta do whatever we want when we go to heaven.
Thats chaos and a deception that the enemy would want us to believe to keep one further from wanting to know God.
So why would we practice that habit here on earth and expect to magically change once we die and are confronted before the Lord in all his Glory and Majesty.
God has no reason to diminish himself to please us. He is the Almighty
Do you feel that God could admit people into heaven who don't trust and rely on him and instead rely on what they think is better?
That's precisely why the devil was kicked out of heaven.
God is sovereign means he rules over everything.
He was not created... he has always been
He is not here to serve us even though he takes care of us.
We were created by him, for him, to serve him, to show reverence for him instead of the enemy.
It's loyalty to our king, respect for the one who watches and protects us from the enemy as well as from ourselves when misguided.
But unless we listen to him, what are we being guided by?
We can't serve two masters. Otherwise interests are divided, it's a conflict of interest.
We can't have our cake and eat it too.
We can't get the good package by rejecting the one providing the good package.
Being dedicated to him means we dedicate every part of our life to God, and not keeping anything from him for ourselves.
 
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And they would say that same thing, and you can't prove its based in truth
 
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And they would say that same thing, and you can't prove its based in truth
Like I said before, you can't even argue what's truth and lies without borrowing from the Judeo/Christian faiths and their values.
 
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Like I said before, you can't even argue what's truth and lies without borrowing from the Judeo/Christian faiths and their values.
Tintin my brother sometimes you just have to say no! Many are called but few are chosen comes to mind. Time to bean them all up! I cant waste time playing these games
 

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Romans 14
Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. [SUP]2 [/SUP]One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only. [SUP]3 [/SUP]The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him. [SUP]4 [/SUP]Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.[SUP]5[/SUP]One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. [SUP]6 [/SUP]He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God. [SUP]7 [/SUP]For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself; [SUP]8 [/SUP]for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For it is written,
“As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me,
And every tongue shall give praise to God.”

[SUP]12 [/SUP]So then each one of us will give an account of himself to God.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather determine this—not to put an obstacle or a stumbling block in a brother’s way. [SUP]14 [/SUP]I know and am convinced in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself; but to him who thinks anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. [SUP]15 [/SUP]For if because of food your brother is hurt, you are no longer walking according to love. Do not destroy with your food him for whom Christ died. [SUP]16 [/SUP]Therefore do not let what is for you a good thing be spoken of as evil; [SUP]17 [/SUP]for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. [SUP]18 [/SUP]For he who in this way serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. [SUP]19 [/SUP]So then we pursue the things which make for peace and the building up of one another. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Do not tear down the work of God for the sake of food. All things indeed are clean, but they are evil for the man who eats and gives offense. [SUP]21 [/SUP]It is good not to eat meat or to drink wine, or to do anything by which your brother stumbles. [SUP]22 [/SUP]The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. [SUP]23 [/SUP]But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin.
 
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And they would say that same thing, and you can't prove its based in truth
Sure I can, lol I can point to verifiable information that is still retained in this day and age. Anything from direct archaeological proofs to historical proofs. Beyond secular hard proofs I can point to prophecies that have been fulfilled. I can point to miracles that are attested to in the Bible that are described outside of the Bible by enemies of the Bible, and I can point to miracles which happen by the grace of Jesus even unto this very day.

Likewise, I can find through all the other religions where they are wrong, historically inaccurate, and at their deeper levels they are quite dark and foul indeed.
 
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Tintin my brother sometimes you just have to say no! Many are called but few are chosen comes to mind. Time to bean them all up! I cant waste time playing these games
Good point. That's one of my flaws. I don't know when to quit trying to help someone to see God's Truth.
 
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Tintin you showed me nothing but aggression not love, do yes of like you to step away and maybe someone can she some kindness like your Jesus would
 
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And please pastac you too, i need someone who can control their emotions if they want to have Assn adult discussion
 

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Grace is constantly being abused from both sides. Grace does not allow anyone to do whatever they please, but it is also not so limited that it can not save.
 
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And Ben i understand the facts like you said but no religion can prove they are the right one, ours just not possible when its all faith
 

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Grace is constantly being abused from both sides. Grace does not allow anyone to do whatever they please, but it is also not so limited that it can not save.
Indeed, grace isn't a license to sin, and to make such an accusation against grace or grace preachers shows the ignorance one has on the grace of God. "Sin shall not have dominion of you, for you are not under law but grace.''

Also, grace teaches us:

[h=3]Titus 2:11-13[/h]King James Version (KJV)

11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
12Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ
 
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Tintin you showed me nothing but aggression not love, do yes of like you to step away and maybe someone can she some kindness like your Jesus would
Disagreeing with someone doesn't always imply aggression. I'm not attacking you but I'm getting frustrated with your posts and your desire to convert Christians to your (lack of) faith. Goodbye.
 
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pastac

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Good point. That's one of my flaws. I don't know when to quit trying to help someone to see God's Truth.
I feel you on that but sometimes I've learned to shake of the dust and move on!! Not easy but necessary sometimes
 
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pastac

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Tintin you showed me nothing but aggression not love, do yes of like you to step away and maybe someone can she some kindness like your Jesus would


And please pastac you too, i need someone who can control their emotions if they want to have Assn adult discussion
Look the fact is you are deluded your focus is augmentative from the word go. You start this wildfire then its starts burning you start screaming. No one is out of control but you. This is kingdom work not dumb work. did you get that?If you want to have an adult conversation on a Christian Chat site do it that's fine if not so be it. To have an adult conversation as an adult one has to think like and adult. To commit adultery one has to be and adultery Just a thought
 
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