why i don't believe in hell and I've never been happier

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MidniteWelder

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Then I stand corrected Pastac for cross linking two different words into a category the general population often percevie as being one definition.

Lacey,
It's not about a religion, or what its called.
Christianity is merely called Christian because it is based upon the teachings and following of Christ.

What's important is knowing Christ, like you would get to know a person.
You spend time with him, you read the things he said which shows his morals, beliefs, character as well as His authority over heaven and earth and all creation.
The power and majesty he holds with the angels of heaven at his dispatch to wage war in order to quench his wrath against the enemy.
Yet at the same time the mercy and gentleness to be meek toward us.
Meek meaning power under control
Absolute power corrupts, but not him, because he is just and controls his power to what is right.
Yet he defines what is right and wrong
Thats a good reason to serve him
Because what he is capable of is justifiably sending us all to hell.
But he controllably issues grace and mercy as he see's fit, he offered to all those who call upon his name.
But there's something he asks of us in return.
To Love him...Love is doing, showing.

We know what is right and wrong because God has inherently written the law of right and wrong in our hearts.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. [SUP]
15 [/SUP]They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.

And I think you know that getting closer to Christ is right.
To dedicate yourself to him
Knowing his ways also allows them to become your ways.

and that's what following is.
 
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Dana everyone knows right from wrong you don't need a holy book to help you with that, terribly wrong with me? Wow really nice, you know nothing about me, you know nothing of my heart or my inherent nature, you know nothing about me.....like i don't know the same about you, i could say you are pretty cold for what you just said but i have alittle more tolerance and respect and i understand not everyone will see the world through my eyes
I would agree you do not need the Bible to know right from wrong. When thou were a child were you not inborn with a sense of goodness? However this wicked world have a way of twisting all that we knew as children, for which the Bible is useful to go back to and re-learn what the world has tried to make us forget.

However, regardless of a need for the Bible, I do believe God is necessary to separate right from wrong as God is necessary for life to begin with.
 
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Past ac, tin tin I'm not trying to convert anyone I'm just staying what i believe.......everyone is trying to convert me.....just accept me.....if Jesus is real he would.....why can't you? Grow up
I actually disagree with you here...

1) Actually you are saying what you "don't" believe, right?

2) Have you not read the New Testament?, Jesus would not accept you unless you repented of your sin and followed Him ...
easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man into heaven

3) If you understood what christians really believe then you would not want them to just accept you, they try to convert you because they care about your "eternal soul". The issue here is the biblical doctrine of the gospel and the fundamental assertions of a God and an afterlife.
 
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Dana everyone knows right from wrong you don't need a holy book to help you with that, terribly wrong with me? Wow really nice, you know nothing about me, you know nothing of my heart or my inherent nature, you know nothing about me.....like i don't know the same about you, i could say you are pretty cold for what you just said but i have alittle more tolerance and respect and i understand not everyone will see the world through my eyes
Haha don't get so defensive , it just strengthens their argument:)
 
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If there is a Hell literery torturing place in universe as some other religions belief, then whole universe is Hell.
God is not a mad god, the rights of creature to be created or not being created should be given on Human's side.
When any human, on his own choice, decides not to be created by God by not believing, then that unbeliever being should be returned as nothing, as result of rejection against creator.
If God put this being who rejected to be created by god in Hell, then God is doing murdering action, not creating action.
 
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pastac

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If there is a Hell literery torturing place in universe as some other religions belief, then whole universe is Hell.
God is not a mad god, the rights of creature to be created or not being created should be given on Human's side.
When any human, on his own choice, decides not to be created by God by not believing, then that unbeliever being should be returned as nothing, as result of rejection against creator.
If God put this being who rejected to be created by god in Hell, then God is doing murdering action, not creating action.
wow that sure sums what is wrong with the body if we take this position this is why the enemy has such a field day with believers because of error like this
 
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If there is a Hell literery torturing place in universe as some other religions belief, then whole universe is Hell.
God is not a mad god, the rights of creature to be created or not being created should be given on Human's side.
When any human, his his own choice, decide not to be created by God, then that being should be returned as nothing, not HELL.
If God put this being who rejected to be created by god in Hell, then God is doing murdering action, not creating action.
Nay, God would not be a murderer. If God is the Creator then God is the only one with the Right to do with His Creation as He wills.
 
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Tintin

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If there is a Hell literery torturing place in universe as some other religions belief, then whole universe is Hell.
God is not a mad god, the rights of creature to be created or not being created should be given on Human's side.
When any human, on his own choice, decides not to be created by God by not believing, then that unbeliever being should be returned as nothing, as result of rejection against creator.
If God put this being who rejected to be created by god in Hell, then God is doing murdering action, not creating action.
Do you even read the Bible?
 
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Tintin

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Maybe she is listening to Rob Bell. haha
In the very early days, Rob Bell had some good stuff to say. But he's been teaching some really false doctrine for a long time now.
 
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Rob bell.....not any worse than Benny hinn.....or Joyce Meyer.....people living high on the Hogg taking money hand over fist while people giving the money are barely making it
 
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Sirk

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In the very early days, Rob Bell had some good stuff to say. But he's been teaching some really false doctrine for a long time now.
For sure. I really used to like him until he started preaching the many paths to god doctrine.
 
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Sirk

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Rob bell.....not any worse than Benny hinn.....or Joyce Meyer.....people living high on the Hogg taking money hand over fist while people giving the money are barely making it
I'm pretty sure I do not disagree with this point. I've always felt a little weird about ms meyer as well.
 
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Tintin

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Rob bell.....not any worse than Benny hinn.....or Joyce Meyer.....people living high on the Hogg taking money hand over fist while people giving the money are barely making it
No, he's certainly no worse than those, he may be better (at least he's not about the money). Still, he has excellent communication skills, the man's a born storyteller, but he does teach some non-biblical things. Things that run counter to common Christian doctrinal truths.
 
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Maybe preaching isn't his thing he could have written stories like l Ron hubbard ;)
 

Markum1972

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And Ben i understand the facts like you said but no religion can prove they are the right one, ours just not possible when its all faith
I am curious as to what you think "faith" is.
 
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Tintin

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For sure. I really used to like him until he started preaching the many paths to god doctrine.
My brain's a bit fuzzy. At what point did he go off the rails with his doctrine?
 
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Sirk

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When you believe but have no evidence to prove it
When Jesus called his followers they didn't "believe" in him and he didn't ask them to "believe" in Him. He said, "follow me". As far as they were concerned, He was just one Rabbi of many in Israel. Heck, they didn't "believe" in Him after seeing him work miracles in front of their very eyes. In fact he constantly confronted their unbelief and little faith. It isn't about belief...its about following Jesus....learning what he has commanded you to do and be and doing that. "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God."
 
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But faith means believing when there's no evidence....Jesus isn't here today....so you would have faith id you believe in him