It Is satanic Heresy to Deny Eternal Security

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Atwood

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Originally Posted by Atwood

Then you are in trouble, James. For you hold false doctrine. But BTW, probably every Christian is off on something here or there, so then all will be cut off & destroyed by your theory. Do you realized that your post was just you saying things? No Bible proof. The Rapture is a Bible fact, see 1 Th 4:17 harpagesometha = rapiemur = we shall be caught up.

Eternal Security means that one really believes that Jesus is the Savior, not just a "chance-giver."

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ & you shall be saved. Not just given a chance at it.

I give them eternal life, & they shall never perish.


First I will quote the verse IN CONTEXT:
27“My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand
There are 4 statements made about sheep, the born again Christian:
1) they hear, (not necessarily perfectly all the time)
2) Christ knows them,
3) they follow,
4) Christ gives them eternal life and they will never perish.

There are no conditional connections, like if they hear & follow then eternal life. The hear & follow are facts, not ifs.
The gift of eternal life is a fact, not based on anything but being a sheep. This is not a matter of the sheep claiming it; he has it for being a sheep.

I don't know why you are going off on the Rapture is this thread. It is a Bible fact 1 Th 4:17. Christians disagree on its timing.

It is time to seek the Lord before HIS GLORY IS POURED OUT.
Seek the Lord should be done. But there is none that seeks! (Romans).

He does seeking, He stands at the door & knocks.

It is time to stop pretending you can be righteous and earn God's favor that way for salvation. Turn your life over to the Savior & trust Him. He has brought many sons to righteousness. Trust Him as SAvior, and He will never fail you.
 

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Most Christians want an easy way. True salvation is a WAR.
But the War finished on the cross 2000 years ago, when the Lord Jesus said, It is finished. All you need do now is trust your Savior. You cannot defeat your flesh on your own; you cannot pay for your sins.

It looks like some buzzard talked you out of trusting Christ as your savior.

You must trust Him as your only & sufficient Savior, as the giver of eternal life without perishing.

It is not being convinced of some doctrine which brings salvation; it is trusting the Son of God. If the Son shall make you free, you shall be free indeed. If you are not free indeed, then the Son did not make you free.
 

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The Perverse Mind That Denies Eternal Security

Ye Olde Perverse Mind Which Denies Eternal Security

Is is not pitiful how religious sinners will refuse to trust Christ as Savior (refuse to trust Him completely with their eternal destiny) on the grounds that such a trust would lead to men sinning presumptively and abundantly, for they knew they would go to Heaven regardless.

So there you have men who do nothing but sin in their self-righteous delusion that their works are meritorious, when they stink a stench in the nose of the Almighty. Then they won't hear of trusting Christ as Savior because that would mean abundant sin.

This theory denies that Salvation is Salvation. Why if I were saved, I wouldn't be saved! Brilliant logic.

What blindness, what hard heart! What need of Rev 3 eye salve.

A Savior stands at the door and knocks offering you real salvation, not a fake salvation, not a 15 minute salvation, not a sinful salvation, not a shot at salvation. He offers to deliver you really and truly from sin. If the Son shall make you free, you shall be free indeed. (Thus eternally secure.)

Your only hope to escape from your vicious cycle of sinning is to trust the Savior, but you won't do it because that would make you sin! That is a satanic delusion. What a tragedy to focus on sin and self-righteousness to the point that you cannot focus on the Savior.

You cannot be saved from sin without being saved from sin. The Lord doesn't
first assure you that if you trust Him for eternal life & never-perishing and thus get saved, then second, fail to follow through with Saving you from sin and getting you a seat in Heaven.

What is it you cannot understand about Savior? The S, the A, the V, the I, the O, or the R?

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.
He will make you free indeed.
He will not cause you to want to sin.
He will give you a new godly nature.
He will give you the indwelling Spirit.
The Father will chastise you if you need it.
But He will never let you escape His hand.
 

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I would like to know if OSAS is biblical why did
Kenneth, pardon me for asking you: I would like to know why you expect us to believe things just because you say them? That string of words had no proof.

Also if OSAS is biblical why are there scriptures from Jesus and the Apostles that speak of having to persevere to the end, stand firm to the end, staying alert, and so forth so that nobody can cause you to loose that salvation.
There are no such scriptures and you don't quote one. But in fact by eternal security, all believers in the Lord Jesus, all who trust Him with their eternal destiny, do endure to the end. But there is no scripture that says one loses salvation. Why waste time making assertions with no Bible proof?

Not to mention the other scriptures that speak about those who have fallen away.
The apostates of Heb 6 are said to have never had salvation (6:9). 1 John 2 indicates that apostates were never part of the Body of Christ. Of course persons profess without actually trusting Christ as SAvior. I think you are one of these. You don't trust Christ with your eternal destiny. You rewrite scripture it seems to say:

"I give them brief life, and they may certainly perish";
instead of, I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish.

Kenneth, you are repeating some of the same invalid objections which have been answered over and over now. Why are you so determined to talk yourself out of eternal life?
 

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I agree with what you just said. My hope and faith is in the cross and because of that I trust that my eternity is secured by Him.
But what you say next is contrary to the above.

My debate is that a person can be saved and through temptation and prolonged sin and refusal to repent. That person can lose their salvation. I know that He will never leave me nor forsake me, But I can leave Him. If I so choose.
You have no scripture for that. The Bible no where defines salvation as something you can lose. It wouldn't be salvation if you could lose it, just a chance at salvation. Believers get a new nature that does not and cannot sin, though the Old Man hangs around until death. The new nature is incapable of leaving Christ. And believers have been infused into Christ's body. How is an arm going to leave the body? The arm cannot make such a choice.

But the illustrations don't prove the doctrine; the plain statement of the word of God proves the doctrine. Need I repeat scripture again on this? If you can leave Christ, then you are not saved; you just have a shot at it.

My other question is. What do you say to a person that loves God and goes to church every Sunday. Yet they are bound by alcohol and when they get drunk every night they reek havoc in their family and they are torn by it and hate it. But , they cannot stop. Would you say they were never saved?
You say 1) loves God and 2) bound by alcohol.
Those are contradictories. If the son shall make you free, you shall be free indeed. He who loves the Lord with all his might is not a slave of alcohol. He can sin and get drunk some time. But he cannot be a drunkard. Such a person was never saved. The proof that he did not love God is that He did not put God's interests above his own.

We may not prove doctrine by human experience. We don't know hearts; we cannot be sure who is saved and who is not.

BTW, I am an LCDC, licensed chemical dependency counselor myself. Someone who is enslaved to alcohol will be freed if he trusts Christ as Savior. However, his brain may have the synapses and neurotransmitters altered to where he requires alcohol for his brain to operate, barring a physical miracle. Such a one will be delivered if He trusts Christ as Savior. But part of the salvation could be provided by 3 months confinement and at first drugs to prevent withdrawals, as they can be life-threatening, worse than the intoxication. It would not be a sin for a confined alcoholic to receive strictly controlled tapering off doses of alcohol if suitable drugs are not available.

A danger to any alcoholic in recovery is that he will adopt the idolatrous religion of AA. But you do need a Savior who has the highest power.

Refusing to trust Christ as only & sufficient Savior doesn't help someone get clean and sober, nor does it help someone avoid sinning. My testimony is that since I trusted Christ as my eternal-security Savior, my security has never made me want to sin. How should I wish to grieve the Holy Spirit and be ungrateful for the suffering of Christ on the cross for my sin? Considering what He has done for me, how he never leaves me nor forsakes me, how he will not let me go, fills me with a sense of love and gratitude. I love Him because He first loved me. The love of Christ constrains me.

Herein is love made perfect with us, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as he is, even so are we in this world. There is no fear in love: but perfect love casts out fear, because fear has punishment; and he that feareth is not made perfect in love. We love, because he first loved us.
 

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Exactly. Paul is talking about apostates, specifically those who have accepted (again, what part of 4 - 8 does not say saved)and then gone apostate; then he talks to those who have not gone apostate. TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS AND SITUATIONS. Kinda like if I said "there are many smart people who act like idiots, BUT I find none of them here in this thread". 2 different situations, two different groups.

BUT whatever. We're beating the dead horse at this point. I just hope you don't try to walk away some day, under the mistaken belief that you can't.
Ricky, yes there are 2 groups: 1) the 4-8 apostates, and 2) those who are not those because they have the attributes of salvation. 6:9 clearly indicates that the saved are not those of 4-8 -- the characteristics of 4-8 do not measure up to salvation. That is clearly what 6:9 says.

Knowing that I am eternally secure in my Savior has never been a motive to walk away. I know I cannot walk away! I know that the Lord Jesus loved me enough to promise me eternal life and that I shall never perish. His love constrains me. Fearing the loss of salvation indicates a wrong definition of salvation and a need to radically trust the Lord Jesus with your eternal destiny.

Herein is love made perfect with us, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as he is, even so are we in this world. There is no fear in love: but perfect love casteth out fear, because fear hath punishment; and he who fears is not made perfect in love. We love, because he first loved us.
 

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My Faith Has Found a Resting Place

Let's sing it:

My faith has found a resting place,
Not in device or creed;
I trust the ever living One,
His wounds for me shall plead.

I need no other argument;
I need no other plea;
It is enough that Jesus died,
And that He died for me.

Enough for me that Jesus saves,
This ends my fear and doubt;
A sinful soul I come to Him,
He’ll never cast me out.


Refrain


My heart is leaning on the Word,
The living Word of God,
Salvation by my Savior’s Name,
Salvation through His blood.


Refrain


My great Physician heals the sick,
The lost He came to save;
For me His precious blood He shed,
For me His life He gave.

YouTube link

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Kenneth, pardon me for asking you: I would like to know why you expect us to believe things just because you say them? That string of words had no proof.



There are no such scriptures and you don't quote one. But in fact by eternal security, all believers in the Lord Jesus, all who trust Him with their eternal destiny, do endure to the end. But there is no scripture that says one loses salvation. Why waste time making assertions with no Bible proof?



The apostates of Heb 6 are said to have never had salvation (6:9). 1 John 2 indicates that apostates were never part of the Body of Christ. Of course persons profess without actually trusting Christ as SAvior. I think you are one of these. You don't trust Christ with your eternal destiny. You rewrite scripture it seems to say:

"I give them brief life, and they may certainly perish";
instead of, I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish.

Kenneth, you are repeating some of the same invalid objections which have been answered over and over now. Why are you so determined to talk yourself out of eternal life?
Those objections are the Gospel Truth. You have been shown ad nauseam but your theory cannot accept the Truth because you must hold to the erroneous theory of eternal security.
You are still confusing what Christ did for the world from why He did it. Calvinism is so far afield that it just cannot be aligned with any scripture. It has been clearly delineated that OSAS is a false teaching notwithstanding your incessant rhetoric to the contrary of repeating a few verses which don't even address eternal security.

They addresses Calvinism and it associated tenet of OSAS which cannot be found in scripture as scripture has always been understood from the beginning. I still have not seen any proof of OSAS. You speak much of proof, but I don't see any. Why is that?
Your response in post 1825 is indicative of the nonsense and non substantive remarks because you cannot refute the statement in light of scripture. It shows the vacuousness of OSAS in light of scripture. Your consistant response is that black is not black but white. Your statements turn scripture on its head.

For those that desire to hold to OSAS and believe that God predestined certain individuals to be saved monergistically and you believe in fate that man is NOT in a relationship with God, that man is not an active agent in this world, and in his relationship with God, that God is merely manipulating man, that one has no eternal security because you might end up being one of those fakes, persons who were never saved in the first place, what Atwood calls professors, even though they believed and bore much fruit, is your free choice, but you cannot find any support in scripture for such a philosophical view.
 

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TRUST IN THE LORD, O TROUBLED SOUL!

Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
This is God’s gracious command;
In all your ways acknowledge Him,
So shall you dwell in the land.
RefrainTrust in the Lord, O troubled soul,
Rest in the arms of His care;
Whatever your lot, it mattereth not,
For nothing can trouble you there;
Trust in the Lord, O troubled soul,
Nothing can trouble you there.
Trust in the Lord who ruleth all,
Seeeth all things as they are,
Be it a birdling in its nest,
Or yonder uttermost star.
RefrainTrust in the Lord and peaceful be,
Fret not thy spirit in vain,
What though the answer tarries long,
Still shalt thou praise Him again.
RefrainTrust in the Lord—His eye will guide
All thro’ your pathway ahead,
He hath redeemed and He will keep,
Trust Him and be not afraid.
Refrain
 

Atwood

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The apostates of Heb 6 are said to have never had salvation (6:9). 1 John 2 indicates that apostates were never part of the Body of Christ. Of course persons profess without actually trusting Christ as SAvior. I think you are one of these. You don't trust Christ with your eternal destiny. You rewrite scripture it seems to say:

"I give them brief life, and they may certainly perish";
instead of, I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish.

Kenneth, you are repeating some of the same invalid objections which have been answered over and over now. Why are you so determined to talk yourself out of eternal life?


Calvinism . . . Calvinism . . .such a philosophical view.
Dear Cassian, person for whom Christ died,

why do you go on & on, just posting your impotent words? The entrance of God's Word brings light.

Since you have no scripture, there is no point in addressing your canards, attacking your straw man Calvin, sigh!
Now you had your say, but I don't believe you; I believe the Word of God.

Philip 3:8-9
Yea verily, and I count all things to be loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but refuse, that I may gain Christ, and be found in him, not having a righteousness of mine own, even that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith:


I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish.


 
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Brother, if you believe in the gift of eternal security, shall we argue with it? Shall we try relentlessly try to persuade men who believe baptism and works are a part of salvation? I haven't read all of your posts...so
 

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The Falsehood Is Repeated implying that ETERNAL SECURITY is not in the Bible

A little evidence of Eternal Security as against any outrageous denial:

Psalm 34:22
The Lord redeems the life of his servants; none of those who take refuge in him will be condemned.

Jude 1:24
Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy,

1 Peter 1:3-5
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy begat us again unto a living hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 unto an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who by the power of God are guarded through faith unto a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Colossians 1:13
He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son,

Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus


Revelation 3:5
The one who overcomes will be clothed thus in white garments, and I will never blot his name out of the book of life. I will confess his name before my Father…

1 John 5:4-5
For whatsoever is begotten of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. And who is he who overcomes the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.

Hebrews 9:15

Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.

Ephesians 1:1-23

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are in Ephesus, and are faithful in Christ Jesus: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus

Ephesians 1:11

In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will,

Hebrews 10:14
For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.

Ps 138

"thy right hand will save me.
YHWH will perfect that which concerns me:"

Is there anyone who is not familiar with the end of Romans 8 ?
 

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1 Corinthians 13If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. [SUP]2 [/SUP]If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.[SUP]4 [/SUP]Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, [SUP]5 [/SUP]does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, [SUP]6 [/SUP]does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; [SUP]7 [/SUP]bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For we know in part and we prophesy in part; [SUP]10 [/SUP]but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away. [SUP]11 [/SUP]When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known. [SUP]13 [/SUP]But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love.

2 Peter 1:2-11
To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ: [SUP]2 [/SUP]Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord; [SUP]3 [/SUP]seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence. [SUP]4 [/SUP]For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust. [SUP]5 [/SUP]Now for this very reason also, applying all diligence, in your faith supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge, [SUP]6 [/SUP]and in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self-control, perseverance, and in your perseverance, godliness, [SUP]7 [/SUP]and in your godliness, brotherly kindness, and in your brotherly kindness, love. [SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Therefore, brethren, be all the more diligent to make certain about His calling and choosing you; for as long as you practice these things, you will never stumble; [SUP]11 [/SUP]for in this way the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will be abundantly supplied to you.

Yes, we are eternally secure IN Jesus Christ. But one should not be careless in assuming. As it has already been pointed out in this thread, Jesus told those that had done miracles that He did not know them. Yes, it is through faith, but contrary to the teaching by some, faith throughout the bible brings about a response. Without the resulting action that the faith lead you to, the faith is dead and IS WORTHLESS. No, we are not saved by our works, but by the faith that was strong enough to cause us to do something - What we are called to do.

I don't think, at least for some, that you are trying to "promote sin", but be aware of the fact that not all that read your posts are as well read (biblically) as you may be. Feeding meat to infants (in Christ) may cause them to choke.

And while I do believe that we are eternally secure in Jesus Christ, I do not believe that we cannot choose to walk out of The Door that gave us that eternal security. It is called free will and, while I am not sure exactly how it works after we are physically dead, we do have free will to choose or deny Jesus as long as we are still breathing.
 

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ETERNAL SECURITY COROLLARY: PRESENT SALVATION

SECURITY IN LIVING-LIFE SALVATION

Delight yourself also in YHWH;

And He will give you the desires of thy heart.
Commit your way to YHWH;

Trust also in Him, and He will bring it to pass.
And He will make your righteousness to go forth as the light,
And your justice as the noonday.

Rest in YHWH and wait patiently for Him.
< Ps 37


For I am not ashamed of the gospel: for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is revealed a righteousness of God
from faith to faith:
as it is written, But the righteous shall
live by faith.

Corollary to Eternal Security is the conviction that even a Christian cannot live the Christian life without God's help. Part of our security lies in the confidence that the Lord helps us live and obey His commandments For the inability of the Christian to obey and live on his own power, meditate on Romans 7.


the love of God hath been shed abroad in our hearts through the Holy Spirit which was given unto us. For while we were yet weak, in due season Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: for peradventure for the good man some one would even dare to die. But God commendeth his own love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, shall we be saved from the wrath of God through him. For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life;


 
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Atwood

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Yes, we are eternally secure IN Jesus Christ.


I rejoice to hear you say it.

I don't think, at least for some, that you are trying to "promote sin", but be aware of the fact that not all that read your posts are as well read (biblically) as you may be. Feeding meat to infants (in Christ) may cause them to choke.
Indeed one has best not cause anyone to stumble. But realize that if you teach persons that if they trust the Lord Jesus as Savior, He will not necessarily save them, you are hindering persons from trusting the Lord Jesus as Savior, their only hope for escaping from sin.

And while I do believe that we are eternally secure in Jesus Christ, I do not believe that we cannot choose to walk out of The Door that gave us that eternal security. It is called free will and, while I am not sure exactly how it works after we are physically dead, we do have free will to choose or deny Jesus as long as we are still breathing.
And now you contradict yourself. And there is no scripture to support what you say. You exalt the power of human free will over the saving power of the Lord Jesus, with no scripture. If you can walk out the door of security, you have no security. In all of eternity future, who is to say you wouldn't walk out that door? satan walked out of his position in righteousness with no one around to tempt him.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved. No ifs ands or buts.

Unfortunately, you raise the question of your own salvation. To be saved you must trust the Lord Jesus as Savior, not as one who gives you a shot at getting to Heaven. If your salvation depends on your will, then you shall surely end up in the Lake of Fire, as Romans 7 illustrates so profoundly how the will of the Christian is defeated by indwelling Sin.

I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish.

Dear Timeline, Is it not time for you to actually trust the Lord Jesus with your eternal destiny?
 
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"Dear Timeline, Is it not time for you to actually trust the Lord Jesus with your eternal destiny?"

Dear Atwood, is it not time for you to just SHUT UP. !!
 
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To those that can hear.

The time is short. Seek me. Find me. ONLY if you do so with all your heart. Those that love their sin mask it in doctrines and philosophies that allow them to find comfort while serving their enemy. Their very name speaks of how I see them and how my servants see them. The time is hort. SOON MY GLORY SHALL COME IN SUCH A WAY AS TO REVEAL THE HEARTS OF THOSE THAT HAVE REJECTED ME. They walk in the imagination of their heart, while professing to be wise they have become fools and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image of beasts. I will have a church without spot and wrinkle and those that offend will be cast off. SEARCH FOR ME. TRUST ONLY ME. Because the time of my Judgment is NOW and those whose hearts have been prepared will be ushered in to my wedding feast, while those whose hearts argue as those in the market place will be food of the vultures. TEST ME. SEEK ME. Judgment is HERE. Judgment is NOW.
 

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To those that can hear.

The time is short. Seek me. Find me. ONLY if you do so with all your heart. Those that love their sin mask it in doctrines and philosophies that allow them to find comfort while serving their enemy. Their very name speaks of how I see them and how my servants see them. The time is hort. SOON MY GLORY SHALL COME IN SUCH A WAY AS TO REVEAL THE HEARTS OF THOSE THAT HAVE REJECTED ME. They walk in the imagination of their heart, while professing to be wise they have become fools and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image of beasts. I will have a church without spot and wrinkle and those that offend will be cast off. SEARCH FOR ME. TRUST ONLY ME. Because the time of my Judgment is NOW and those whose hearts have been prepared will be ushered in to my wedding feast, while those whose hearts argue as those in the market place will be food of the vultures. TEST ME. SEEK ME. Judgment is HERE. Judgment is NOW.
James, do you claim to be God? You speak as if you were God.
Test me? Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. James, you are not God.
 

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Worried About Losing &quot;Salvation&quot;?

Worrying about losing salvation indicates that you don't really believe in the Savior, you don't trust Him with your eternal destiny. The cure for that is to cast your care on Him and trust Him for your eternal security. Whosoever believes in Him . . . should not perish . . . have eternal life.

Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time; casting all your anxiety upon him, because He cares for you. (Philippians)

When you trust the Lord Jesus for your eternal destiny, you get
an abiding possession.

"knowing that ye have for yourselves a better possession and an abiding one. Cast not away therefore your boldness' heb 10:4