Daniel 9:27

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eternally-gratefull

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I agree sacrifices continued for another 40 years, but after the death of Christ those sacrifices were not required by God.
does not matter, The prophesy says the sacrifice ceased because of the abomination which makes desolate. which made the inner sanctum unclean. Not because of the messiah being cut off. that occured at the end of the 69th week.

Also Paul said that Christ did confirm the covenant already in place.

Gal 3:15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Gal 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
um, according to this passage, the covenant confirmed was the law.. This is true, the law was made perfect in Christ.

But you have a problem. the sacrifices were stopped 3 1/2 years after the confirmed covenant. (which if it was christ, he confirmed or erfected the mosaic covenant on the cross) by the abomination which makes desolate.

your timeline does not fit. I can't see it.
 
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does not matter, The prophesy says the sacrifice ceased because of the abomination which makes desolate. which made the inner sanctum unclean. Not because of the messiah being cut off. that occured at the end of the 69th week.



um, according to this passage, the covenant confirmed was the law.. This is true, the law was made perfect in Christ.

But you have a problem. the sacrifices were stopped 3 1/2 years after the confirmed covenant. (which if it was christ, he confirmed or erfected the mosaic covenant on the cross) by the abomination which makes desolate.

your timeline does not fit. I can't see it.
Your not reading that correctly EG.

And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

The covenant that was given to Abraham and his seed (which is salvation through grace) was given 400 years before the law was given. Paul is telling us that grace was given before the law was given and the law can not disannul grace. Read it again and see if you agree. The covenant Christ confirmed was not the law, it was grace.
 
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Your not reading that correctly EG.

And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
How else can I read it.

The covenant, Which was confirmed by God. the law. Which was 430 years after the promise made to abraham. ..

There is no other way to read it.


The covenant that was given to Abraham and his seed (which is salvation through grace) was given 400 years before the law was given. Paul is telling us that grace was given before the law was given and the law can not disannul grace. Read it again and see if you agree. The covenant Christ confirmed was not the law, it was grace.
The covenant given to abraham had two parts.

1. In you shall all the nations of the world be blessed. This is given to ALL men and women of the earth

2. I give you and your descendents after you this land as an eternal possession.

Davids prayer concerned the second aspect of the covenant, Thus the interpretation of the prophesy must be taken in this context.

David prayed for your people (Israel) Your holy City (jerusalem) and Your sanctuary (the temple in jerusalem) He did not pray for gentiles who would be saved in the OT and after Christ came..
 
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Here read it from the NIV.

What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18 For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on the promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.
 
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Here read it from the NIV.

What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise.18 For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on the promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.
Why do you ignore the context of daniel?? Whay do you want to make it made to all people. and Not Isreal?

Did Daniel pray for ALL people. or for his people ony.

was Daniel praying for the promise of all nations. or the covenant made between God and the children of Israel.

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Why do you ignore the context of daniel?? Whay do you want to make it made to all people. and Not Isreal?

Did Daniel pray for ALL people. or for his people ony.

was Daniel praying for the promise of all nations. or the covenant made between God and the children of Israel.

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I'm not ignoring the context of Daniel. Daniel is a time prophecy for the return of Christ, it is given to believers in Christ; not the Jewish bloodline. The 70 weeks are just like all other the Old Testament stories, they are shadows of spiritual things that are openly revealed in the New Testament.


There is no covenant between God and physical Israel, there never was and there will never be. The land and all the promises were given to Abraham and his seed Jesus Christ. We inherit those promises because we are in Christ. No Jew will ever partake in the promise until they accept Christ. They are not going to get it just because they are the physical seed of Abraham.
 
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I believe the 'he' in Daniel 9:27 is the antichrist because when I compare Scripture with Scripture, I see that it is the antichrist that causes the oblation and the sacrifice in the temple to cease:




Matthew 24:15-22

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15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 then let them which be in Judæa flee into the mountains: 17 let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.




Mark 13:14-20

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14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judæa flee to the mountains: 15 and let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house: 16 and let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment. 17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 18 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter. 19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. 20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.





2 Thessalonians 2:3-6

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3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.




Daniel 9:27

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27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.





ChosenByHim none of the verses you cited say that the Antichrist causes the oblation and the sacrifice in the temple to cease. Lets start with this one.

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.


Could you explain how these verses prove the Antichrist causes the sacrifice to cease?
I've read it over and over and over and I don't see it. Not one thing in that passage supports your argument.
 
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I'm not ignoring the context of Daniel. Daniel is a time prophecy for the return of Christ, it is given to believers in Christ; not the Jewish bloodline. The 70 weeks are just like all other the Old Testament stories, they are shadows of spiritual things that are openly revealed in the New Testament.


There is no covenant between God and physical Israel, there never was and there will never be. The land and all the promises were given to Abraham and his seed Jesus Christ. We inherit those promises because we are in Christ. No Jew will ever partake in the promise until they accept Christ. They are not going to get it just because they are the physical seed of Abraham.
lol.. Now who is not reading the word.

So God did not promise the land of canaan as an everlasting promise to the children of Isreal?

Daniel did not pray for God to remember THAT PROMISE

Sorry. You were not promised any land, they were

you were not given a law. they were

You were not told if you follow his law. He will bless you. if you do not. he will remove you from your land. But if you repent, he will remember his promise to the fathers (lev 26) and return you to your land.

Sorry, I will not ignore have the promise of abraham to make my belief come true.

There is NOTHING in daniels prayer which concerns you. The prophesy is concerning making an end of the sin of ISRAEL. not you or anyone else.
 
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lol.. Now who is not reading the word.So God did not promise the land of canaan as an everlasting promise to the children of Isreal?Daniel did not pray for God to remember THAT PROMISESorry. You were not promised any land, they wereyou were not given a law. they wereYou were not told if you follow his law. He will bless you. if you do not. he will remove you from your land. But if you repent, he will remember his promise to the fathers (lev 26) and return you to your land.Sorry, I will not ignore have the promise of abraham to make my belief come true.There is NOTHING in daniels prayer which concerns you. The prophesy is concerning making an end of the sin of ISRAEL. not you or anyone else.
Here are 2 passages that say the promise is to Christ... we are joint heirs with him. Show me one passage that says national Israel is heir to anything.Rom 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
 
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2 Thessalonians 2:3-6

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3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.



1 Corinthians 3:16 Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are.

We are the temple. When someone rejects the Lord, the powers of Hell have PERMISSION to TOTALLY DESTROY EVERYTHING OF GOD IN THIS PERSON. These are the SONS OF PERDITION. In the SPIRIT OF JUDAS, they DENY and BEtray the Lord. They do not do this overtly, bue decide that their doctrines and beliefs are enough. They do not allow the Holy spirit to purify them. After all, they will be saved by the Rapture. They look at the news. They look at dead false prophets. They put their faith in their intellecty. THEY ARE DECEIVED. Cling to Him. The time is short. When God's Glory comes on the scene, MANY WILL REUN TO HIM. THey will attempt to seek the Lord, but their doctrines will prevent God from answering. We must be ready. WE MUST STRIVE TO ENTER IN. Because MANY WILL STRIVE TO ENTER IN -- AND WILL NOT BE ABLE. What makes them UNABLE to be heard by God -- THEIR DOCTRINES AND FALSE BELIEFS ABOUT GOD.
 
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Here are 2 passages that say the promise is to Christ... we are joint heirs with him. Show me one passage that says national Israel is heir to anything.Rom 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Gen 17:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God.”

so this covenant was given to you?

Can you show me ANYTHING salvic about this aspect of Gods covenant with abraham? Did God break this covenant or is it still valid?
 

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Dan58 what do you think is made desolate in verse 27?
The sanctuary, holy of holies, daily sacrifice, Christ... The Desolator (anti-Christ) takes away all these and replaces them with himself. Idolatry, the great harlot, false prophet, all culminate to deceive many into worshipping the image of the beast.

Daniel 11:31-32 & 36-37; "And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate. And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.... And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all."

Revelation 13:14-15; "And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."

 
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Read God's Word Please, then study the text:

The question is, who is the he? The traditional view of this passage is that "he" here refers to the Antichrist. The Antichrist will confirm a covenant and stop sacrifices that at some point a future will resume, and set up the Abomination of Desolation. Preterists say that he refers to the real Christ; Jesus Christ is actually the one that causes sacrifices to stop by sacrificing himself. As far as the overspreading of abominations I don't know how they explain that.

So how do we know who the he is? We can know for sure who he is. The he of Daniel 9:27 does three things: he first confirms the covenant, he stops the daily sacrifices, and he sets up the Abomination of Desolation.
In Daniel 11 we have a discourse about the King of the North. When you get to verse 31, it talks about the Antichrist and his partners placing a abomination that makes desolate and stopping the sacrifices. This is absolute proof that the he of Daniel 9:27 is the Antichrist not the real Christ.

Daniel 11:31 (KJV) And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
If you're not sure this is the Antichrist, read on what else this man does:

Daniel 11:36 (KJV) And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

Is that Jesus Christ speaking against the God of gods? Obviously not. It's the Antichrist exalting himself above all that is called God. The apostle Paul referred to the same thing. In 2nd Thessalonians 2:3-4 the apostle Paul said that day shall not come, speaking of the second coming, until there comes a rebellion first and that Man of Sin is revealed, the Son of Perdition, who exalts himself above all that is called God of that is worshiped and sits in the Temple of God claiming to be God. So both of these phrases talking about the Antichrist talk about him exalting himself above God and claiming to be God. Daniel 9:27 is speaking about the Antichrist which is also the reason that Preterism is a false doctrine and should not be believed.

The timing of the Confirmation of the Covenant is another issue that I have researched with great success. Certain things Jesus said that most Christians overlook unlock even the very day that this event will happen, as well as the day of the rapture.

There is nothing in the passage to indicate who the many (haRabim) refers to. However, Dan 12 does say that Daniel was sealed until later...
I believe the book of Revelation that came later showed us the rest of the story on that Antichrist covenant. Rev 17 talks about the Beast (AC) having a covenant with ten rulers who don't have a kingdom but have the power to make him king and then receive rulership with him. HaRabim can also be translated "the great" which is what Rav (rabbi) is connoted to mean when Jews call their teachers rabbi (my great one). The Ten Rulers are indeed great ones to have power over the earth and make him supreme, not Jewish ones.

Does this shed a little light on the subject? Be blessed and why not Blood-Bought, and you?
 
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How else can I read it.

The covenant, Which was confirmed by God. the law. Which was 430 years after the promise made to abraham. ..

There is no other way to read it.


The covenant given to abraham had two parts.

1. In you shall all the nations of the world be blessed. This is given to ALL men and women of the earth

2. I give you and your descendents after you this land as an eternal possession.

Davids prayer concerned the second aspect of the covenant, Thus the interpretation of the prophesy must be taken in this context.

David prayed for your people (Israel) Your holy City (jerusalem) and Your sanctuary (the temple in jerusalem) He did not pray for gentiles who would be saved in the OT and after Christ came..
the Gentleman said: I will destroy the Man, to whom I have
created”.

And the Gentleman said:
My spirit will not protect to the Man for always;
after being mistaken, it is not more than meat.
And their days were one hundred twenty years.

Nefilim was in the country
in those days, and also later;
when the children of the Gods
they cohabited with the daughters of terrestrial ones
and they conceived.
They were Powerful who were of Olam,
the Town of the Shem.
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Verse 3 says to us, unequivocally: when its age, the one of the Deity was of 120 years. One hundred
twenty “years”, not of the Man nor of the Earth, but of the powerful ones, the “Town of the Rockets”,
nefilim. And his year he was to shar -3,600 years terrestrial.

This interpretation not only clarifies amazing verses of Genesis 6, but that also demonstrates how
sumeria adjusts to the information: 120 to shar 432,000 years terrestrial, had passed between the arrival
to the Earth of nefilim and Diluvio
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-The 12th Planet, Zechariah Sitchin: Chapter 8 The Kingdom of the Sky
430 Years for the Promise to Abraham, is also 432,000 years ... and it is also the 62nd week of Daniel 9. 120 Cycles of 3600 years or SARS, would pass before mankind was judged by Shem (the 8th Day Passover).

62nd Week Shem
I CHRONICLES 1:17 The sons of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram, and Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Meshech.
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7th Week Enoch
I CHRONICLES 1:3 Henoch, Methuselah, Lamech,
JUDE 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
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1 Week Adam
JOSHUA 3:16 That the waters which came down from above stood [and] rose up upon an heap very far from the city Adam, that [is] beside Zaretan: and those that came down toward the sea of the plain, [even] the salt sea, failed, [and] were cut off: and the people passed over right against Jericho.


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Daniel 9:27 and the 70 weeks of Daniel 9, describe a single moment. It describes the very moment the Transcendental Object Nibiru is incarnated, at the death of the Antichrist in his body of flesh.

Adam is given 1st, Enoch the 7th and Shem the 62nd in the genealogy of 1Chronicles. The equation and solution to Daniel 9 is stated at the beginning as I CHRONICLES 1:1 Adam, Sheth, Enosh paraphrase "Adam, Enoch and Shem". Christ introduces Nibiru (7th week), the Aliens (62nd week), and the Antichrist (1 week). At the end of time when the Cosmic Shift begins. The genealogies of the bible are apart of an equation, one we are not designed to understand without the assistance of the universe.
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Years ago, there was a decision made that the Antichrist was to cease. Immediately after a certain level of force, I flew up several hundred feet, and then I floated down to the ground. They believed I was challenging their authority, and they decided that the Antichrist must cease and no expense of force will be withheld. Shortly after this in 2004 a Tsunami nearly destroyed a dozen countries, and the problem seemed to disappear for a season. We are approaching the June Solstice, and I intend to have the universe do this, but you must use force and convince the universe that this is necessary or it will not be done. We have a nightly walk scheduled for the June Solstice, soon.
 
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Read God's Word Please, then study the text:

The question is, who is the he? The traditional view of this passage is that "he" here refers to the Antichrist. The Antichrist will confirm a covenant and stop sacrifices that at some point a future will resume, and set up the Abomination of Desolation. Preterists say that he refers to the real Christ; Jesus Christ is actually the one that causes sacrifices to stop by sacrificing himself. As far as the overspreading of abominations I don't know how they explain that.

So how do we know who the he is? We can know for sure who he is. The he of Daniel 9:27 does three things: he first confirms the covenant, he stops the daily sacrifices, and he sets up the Abomination of Desolation.
In Daniel 11 we have a discourse about the King of the North. When you get to verse 31, it talks about the Antichrist and his partners placing a abomination that makes desolate and stopping the sacrifices. This is absolute proof that the he of Daniel 9:27 is the Antichrist not the real Christ.
actually i think if you investigate carefully you will find that your interpretation is not the 'traditional view' and that it was developed more recently than the alternative view...

also daniel 9:27 does not actually say that 'he' sets up the abomination of desolation...a literal translation says 'for the overspreading of abominations he will make it desolate'... take a look at some of the older translations that were published before this became a point of contention...
 
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I think it is misapplied to the ac myself as well......

Jesus confirmed the covenant by his sacrifice
Jesus put an end to the sacrifice by his death, burial and resurrection
Jesus shall make desolate the abomination that maketh desolate unto the consummation of the age

To go one step further....I believe that short of 3.5 years of the 70th week of Daniel were fulfilled by Jesus when he went to the lost sheep of the house of Israel...they rejected grace so the will endure the last half of the 70th week I.E> the great tribulation which is used to purify Israel and the Lord's churches.......
 
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Gen 17:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God.”

so this covenant was given to you?

Can you show me ANYTHING salvic about this aspect of Gods covenant with abraham? Did God break this covenant or is it still valid?
That is the same covenant I have been talking about, it's the same covenant Paul was talking about. The "whole land of Canaan" is the Promised Land. Yes that covenant was given to me and that is the covenant of salvation... the Promised Land is salvation.

God does not have a covenant with national Israel.
 
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The abominations that made Jerusalem desolate are in Matthew 23.

Mat 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Mat 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

This is not a future event. Jerusalem and the Jews have been desolate for 2000 years. Jerusalem was destroyed and the Jews to this day still reject their Messiah.
 
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That is the same covenant I have been talking about, it's the same covenant Paul was talking about. The "whole land of Canaan" is the Promised Land. Yes that covenant was given to me and that is the covenant of salvation... the Promised Land is salvation.

God does not have a covenant with national Israel.
well sorry bro, But I must disagree.

Canaan is not in your hands, You have no right to it. It was not a salvic covenant, it was a gift from God to the children of israel. The OT has many prophesies over and over which show israel in sin being removed from that land. Then one day restored to that land. That covenant IS still binding, It has NOTHING TO do with SALVATION OF ANYONE. if it does. the jews were right, and paul was wrong, and ALL jews were saved,
 
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The abominations that made Jerusalem desolate are in Matthew 23.

Mat 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Mat 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

This is not a future event. Jerusalem and the Jews have been desolate for 2000 years. Jerusalem was destroyed and the Jews to this day still reject their Messiah.
the abomination which makes desolate is a hebrew term. It does not fit your interpretation. it does not mean a place is left desolate. It mans, because of an UNCLEAN THING, or more literally an Idol (the abomination), something is made desolate.

Jesus mentions it in Matt 24. When you see the abomination (unclean thing) which makes desolate spoken of by daniel, standing in the holy place. in order for the abomination of desolation to be standing in the holy place. there must be a holy place for it to stand in. A destroyed temple and city has no holy place to abominate.