Catholic persicution.

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2Thewaters

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Luther came not with human ceremonies, traditions, and fables, to impose on the credulity of the people, but with the truth and the power of God to enlighten their understanding, and free their souls from the bondage of superstition and the tyranny of sin. He declared to his hearers that they must individually believe in Christ, if they would receive salvation through him; no priest or pope could take the place of the divine Mediator. Those who came to Jesus as repentant, believing sinners, would find pardon and peace, and would have his righteousness imputed to them. Sanctification is the fruit of faith, whose renewing power transforms the soul into the image of Christ. It was by faith in a crucified Redeemer that souls were saved in the days of the apostles; it was only by the same faith that souls could be saved in the days of Luther. He taught the people that they must exercise repentance toward God, whose holy law they had transgressed, and faith in Christ, whose blood could atone for their sins. He showed them that all who were truly penitent would pray earnestly for divine aid to battle against their evil propensities, and he also urged upon them the fact that the sincerity of their prayers would be evinced by the energy of their endeavors to render obedience to the law of God.

NW

hre is the proof
LUTHERANS TAUGHT THAT THE LAW OF GOD WAS NOT NAILED TO THE CROSS
that was before the infiltration of the J-infiltrators of the churches 100 years ago
 
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I attend Sunday mass because it is a mortal sin to miss it. I also attend confession because it is a gift of God for the forgivness of sins.
 
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Precious indeed was the message which Luther bore to the eager crowds that hung upon his words. Never before had such teachings fallen upon their ears. The glad tidings of a Saviour's love, the assurance of pardon and peace through his atoning blood, melted their hearts, and inspired within them an immortal hope. A light was kindled at Wittenberg whose rays should extend to the uttermost parts of the earth, and which was to increase in brightness to the close of time.


I think I wil put up a few paragraphs a day there are 5 chapters and they are awesome

this is from an old old book written in 1888 and is copyright free.
 
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and all of you talk of the "freeing of the spirit" my spirit was bound up, and silenced in the protestant faith. it was not until I became a Catholic that it was freed and I was able to join in the heavenly song.
 
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Religion is about Jesus
It is about God
it is about the Bible as being the inerrant word of God
it is about taking it, living it beliving it and knowing it is infinite.

Claims of men owning the Bible are bogus
Bibles are everyowhere it is the most printed book in the universe.
read it
live it
pray to Jesus morning noon and night
and be nice to catholics
:)

They may want to have a living relationship with Jesus too...
 
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Tetzel sets up his traffic in the church, and ascending the pulpit, he with great vehemence extols indulgences as the most precious gifts of God. "Draw near," he cries, "and I will give you letters, duly sealed, by which the sins you hereafter desire to commit shall be all forgiven you." "Even repentance is not indispensable." "But more than all this, indulgences save not only the living but the dead." "The very moment that the money clinks against the bottom of this chest, the soul escapes from purgatory, and flies to Heaven." With such Heaven-daring blasphemy spoke this agent of Satan.
 
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we have a closer relationship as we can go to the church, and kneel before his very body, blood, soul, and divinity in the tabernacle.
 
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Any church who would willingly burn to death men and women will never be worthy to follow.
 
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When Simon Magus offered to purchase of the apostles the power to work miracles, Peter answered him, "Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money." But Tetzel's offer was grasped by eager thousands. Gold and silver flowed into his treasury. A salvation that could be bought with money was more easily obtained than that which required repentance, faith and diligent effort to resist and overcome sin. They could sin as they pleased, and money would purchase their pardon.

The doctrine of indulgences had long been opposed by men of learning and piety in the Romish Church, and there were many who had no faith in pretensions so contrary to both reason and revelation. Yet no bishop dared to lift his voice against the fraud and corruption of this iniquitous traffic. The minds of men were becoming disturbed and uneasy, and they eagerly inquired if God would not work through some instrumentality for the purification of his church.

The traffic in indulgences, subversive as it was of the very foundation principles of the gospel, could not fail to arouse determined opposition on the part of Luther. Though still a papist of the straightest sort, he was filled with horror at the blasphemous assumptions of Tetzel and his associates. Many of his own congregation had purchased certificates of pardon, and they soon began to come to Luther confessing their various sins, and expecting absolution, not because they were penitent and wished to reform, but on the ground of the indulgence. Luther refused them absolution, and warned them that unless they should repent, and reform their lives, they must perish in their sins. In great perplexity, they sought out Tetzel, and informed him that Luther, an Augustine monk, had treated his letters with contempt. The friar was filled with rage. He uttered the most terrible curses, caused fires to be lighted in the public square, and declared that he had orders from the pope to burn the heretics who should dare to oppose his most holy indulgences.

Luther was a good man...

He loved Jesus
 
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have you not read the accounts of the "reformation" in England?
 
Photoss

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And I don't belong to their church either.
 
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2Thewaters

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The point is

The Bible is the only rule of faith

Lets stick with Bible topics

Tell me
why do you go to church on sunday?
 
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was it not a Sunday on which our lord was resurrected?
 
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Catholic means= universal...When Constantine saw that the roman empire was so vast and not unified...he sought to fix that. He figured Christianity would unite it, but not everyone would disregard their own beliefs...so he allowed them them to mix...even asked for it. The Catholic church became a mixture of pagan beliefs and Christianity...the universal church for everyone. It has never been true.

The Catholic church has done more harm than good. You've made coming to God a bunch of hoops and task...then how simplistic it really is.
 
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Was it not the Sabbath that our Lord rested on before the resurection?
 
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Biblical requirements for salvation. 1. repent and believe. 2. be baptized for the remission of sins. 3. remain a part of the body of Christ by continued works.
 
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Is it not the BIBLE we should obey and not our own ideas?

Abel was told to worship a certain way
cain had a better idea and changed the worship
cain died.


Honor to God is obedience to his word.
So what does Gods word say?

That is what we should do.

HE is God.
His word is Gods will for us.
Ignore men if they ignore God.
 
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In your opinion, do you belive the catholic church is the only right church or is it the people the Lord calls and dwells in that
are his church as in Acts. PS the church was not founded on Peter. It was founded on Jesus Christ, there is no other way
or name that we can be saved by accept Jesus. There is no pergatory
. Mary had other children. The Pope is not the mediator
Jesus is. I know you have been taught all this, and have a catholic website to counter all these things. But have you yourself read the word or just believed what you where taught?
You can't pay someone or pray your family out of pergatory, it is not biblical.
Please read for yourself or study scriptures (all of them) to see.
Don't just believe what someone says check it with the word.
Lord bless you...
 
kingerik

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Malachi said:
Biblical requirements for salvation. 1. repent and believe. 2. be baptized for the remission of sins. 2. remain a part of the body of Christ by continued works.
Click to expand...

Again...Hoops.
 
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2Thewaters

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ASk a Bible question

opinions mean nothing

like

What does the bible say about this?
 
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