MBTI details and clarifications

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gypsygirl

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Are "turbulent" the same as "Assertive"?

What´s the "margin of errors" on that result, statistically speaking?


the terms "turbulent" and "assertive" are kind of misleading, at least in their usage. or at least not necessarily obvious. but i appreciate the intention behind it. to answer your first question...

assertive preference is characterized by:


  • Assertive individuals are emotionally stable, calm, relaxed, refuse to worry too much.
turbulent preference is characterized by:

turbulent preference is characterized by:


  • Turbulent individuals are self-conscious, care about their image, success-driven, perfectionists

i don't know that i can help you identify actual hard science on margin of error--at least not without doing some research.

what i can tell you is that i have been personally involved with the MBTI both as a student, and as a facilitator for many, many years and have found it to be eerily accurate. not only for myself, but for others.

generally, when i find that people are "off" on their results, it's more likely an issue of not taking the test properly. i've noticed that certain people tend to take the test speaking from who they WISH they were, or what they value, rather than what they actually are. or they misunderstand the questions. i've gone as far as to actually take the test with someone to make sure they understand the intent and provide a "sanity check" for their answers.

i can't recall a single instance where i knew someone to take the test (properly) and get "off" results. we're talking more than a hundred data points. does that mean that EVERY SINGLE THING that is suggested is absolutely true about them? well, no.

but preferences are just that. and certain conditions can also influence how well/or whether we utilize our preferences too.

i grew up in a very abusive home. during that time, such as high school, i was a different person, because that stress and environment inspired behavior and choices that were out of my ordinary, natural preferences. and that's not uncommon.
 
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Hmmm!

look at these: [TABLE="class: testtable, width: 845"]
[TR="class: set3, bgcolor: #F2F4F7"]
[TD="align: right"]34.[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"]YOU ARE A PERFECTIONIST.



[TABLE="class: testtable, width: 845"]
[TR="class: set3"]
[TD="colspan: 3"]YOU WOULD RATHER WORK IN A TEAM THAN ALONE. Oh! I´m a loner![/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


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Here I was unsure: JUSTICE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MERCY.
 

gypsygirl

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Hmmm!

look at these: [TABLE="class: testtable, width: 845"]
[TR="class: set3, bgcolor: #F2F4F7"]
[TD="align: right"]34.[/TD]
[TD="colspan: 3"]YOU ARE A PERFECTIONIST.



[TABLE="class: testtable, width: 845"]
[TR="class: set3"]
[TD="colspan: 3"]YOU WOULD RATHER WORK IN A TEAM THAN ALONE. Oh! I´m a loner![/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Here I was unsure: JUSTICE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MERCY.
did you receive a personality type? if so, please post it. : )
 
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YOU LIKE TO ISOLATE YOURSELF FROM YOUR SURROUNDINGS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.

What is a hermit lied? :p
 
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Breakdown of preferences: Mind - Introverted (17%), Energy - Observant (13%), Nature- Feeling (20%), Tactics - Prospecting (15%), Identity - Assertive (19%).

17+13+20+15+19= 84

Something is missing!
(100-84)

Oh, no! I don´t believe this:

Some famous ISFPs:

  • Marie Antoinette, former queen of France
  • Ulysses S. Grant, former U.S. president
  • Millard Fillmore, former U.S. president
  • Warren G. Harding, former U.S. president
  • Elizabeth Taylor, actress
  • Bob Dylan, singer
  • Paul McCartney, singer
  • Christopher Reeve, actor
  • Michael Jackson, singer
  • Kevin Costner, actor
  • Britney Spears, singer
  • John Travolta, actor
  • Donald Trump, entrepreneur
  • Secular Hermit, an unknown hermit. : P
 

gypsygirl

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Breakdown of preferences: Mind - Introverted (17%), Energy - Observant (13%), Nature- Feeling (20%), Tactics - Prospecting (15%), Identity - Assertive (19%).

17+13+20+15+19= 84

Something is missing!
(100-84)
i'm not sure if you're joking, but those percentages are based upon a dual polarity continuum scale. each preference is measured from 1 - 99% so your five preferences are unlikely to add up to 100% because each preference is measured independently of the other preferences, rather than components of a combined "pie".

others picked up on that too, though i didn't address it earlier. : )

as to ISFPs, they're often referred to as 'the artists' because of their appreciation of the aesthetic perceptions. also, they're considered to be warm, caring people, but stand-offish, as a general rule.

as you referenced, they can be loners, and tend to judge themselves rather harshly. i know an isfp who is very self-critical, can be rather black and white, and judge things harshly as well.
 
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  • Unpredictable. ISFPs dislike long-term commitments and plans, often living completely in the present and consciously trying to avoid thinking about the future. This can lead to a lot of tension and misunderstanding in their romantic relationships.
They said "unpredictable"... Though I agree with the rest of it. :)
 
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I´m serious! That´s I got in the screen...

Perhaps I need to pay a visit to PAIN Clinic of Dr. tourist (his thread).

(Now I´m joking!) But it be nice to have you there both, as a student or facilitator.
 

tourist

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I´m serious! That´s I got in the screen...

Perhaps I need to pay a visit to PAIN Clinic of Dr. tourist (his thread).

(Now I´m joking!) But it be nice to have you there both, as a student or facilitator.
The doctor will see you now. I may have to operate. Let's crack open a bottle of rum to make sure we are numb and no pain is felt.
 
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i'm not sure if you're joking, (...) i know an isfp who is very self-critical, can be rather black and white, and judge things harshly as well.
Hmm! I´m learning to see inside the grey scale (to my amasement, there are several rainbows inside black or white).

I´m not too blind :cool:
 
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The doctor will see you now. I may have to operate. Let's crack open a bottle of rum to make sure we are numb and no pain is felt.
Oh! Oh!

I pass it! I don´t drink rum (unless cider or champagne) but I can´t afford it now and, a guest like this, deserves the best...

Do you accept my promissory notes, my friend Tour?
 

tourist

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Oh! Oh!

I pass it! I don´t drink rum (unless cider or champagne) but I can´t afford it now and, a guest like this, deserves the best...

Do you accept my promissory notes, my friend Tour?
Whatever you're drinking, I'm drinking. I do not charge my friends. My treat.
 
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did you receive a personality type? if so, please post it. : )
I will try to find where it is, but I´m sure I will not post it... Ha! Ha!

I rather like more tests before being cracked. Ha! Ha!

Have you watched the video CORALINE?

The "other mother" character would be fine to have under these tests. :)
 
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Whatever you're drinking, I'm drinking. I do not charge my friends. My treat.
Thanks!

I´m drinking "Friendship". It is soft, kind, smart, attentive... So I dared to invite her to pay a visit to your Clinic.

After undergoing a test of 15 min (or more) I felt (and she can confirm it) that test would be nice to be posted on your clinic, for future research and study.

Free personality test | 16 Personality Types
 
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Sadfully said:

"PRIYANKAJUNE 25, 2014 REPLY
  • It is 100% of my kind ..completely suits me and am happy to see so many celebrities are of this kind
    "

    I felt they would be near to say something about the Horoscope...

  • No doubt it could help a couple who have problems with self esteem...




 
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And In-depth profile worths 17 dollars!

So, "in the darkness" that site is a business. However, it would be desired to grasp more about the CHRISTIAN personallity who is below some secular mud, to born again.

;)
 

zeroturbulence

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Not sure if this pic is relevant to anything being discussed but I thought it was cool...

istp-poster3.jpg
 

ChandlerFan

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ISFJ here, although I feel like I could be an ISTJ depending on the day.

Actually, I'm very close to the middle of the spectrum for both the introverted/extroverted and thinking/feeling categories, but I would lean a little towards I and F on those.
 
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I thought I might as well use this thread to introduce myself. I have tested as INTJ the few times I took the test. There is quite a logical, I guess geeky side to my personality. I'm reluctant to say geeky - I'm engaged in the world about me. I work in a high tech field but I also have an artistic side - I like to go to museums, concerts, etc. American culture does not really like introverts of any stripe.