When you die, you will either die as one who believed in Jesus and God and lived your life before you died according to God's Word OR as one who did not. This fact alone will determine in which group you are that will be saved or not and therefore NO need for a purgatory. Jesus died on the cross for the sinner and therefore, if mankind accepted Jesus Christ in their hearts and followed Him in everyday life, I believe he will be saved as his sins has been forgiven by the blood of Jesus Christ.
PURGATORY DOES NOT EXIST - IT IS A FALSE TEACHING BY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
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I omitted to refer to your statement that Purgatory is the doctrinal answer. Here again it proves that the church brought their own teachings into play and teach that as the truth, and the sad part is, so many people are/were influenced by it. Quoting a non-biblical text is also not acceptable on this site.
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Linda70
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Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
There is no place called "purgatory"....all our sins were "purged" by the blood of Jesus Christ on the Cross of Calvary. The doctrine of "purgatory" is a "fairy tale"/false doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church.
There is no place called "purgatory"....all our sins were "purged" by the blood of Jesus Christ on the Cross of Calvary. The doctrine of "purgatory" is a "fairy tale"/false doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church.
Do you for one moment think you are clever with your statement? You have seen my country's flag to indicate that I am from South Africa and the same way I can see that you are from America. I am the one that started this post and I am proud of it, as it is the Truth. I can also quote incidents of poor Indians in your country experienced and even worse than what happened here, but that was in the past and I could not help it, and I will not lower myself to your level to argue about history on this site. The fact that you also refer to God as "god" also shows to me that you have no respect to God and that is why you show no respect to those around you and on this site. When it comes to spreading the Truth, I will do so and you will not stop me, as it is quite clear that you are not interested in it. You are still young and have a lot to learn, which is also very obvious. With regards to your church statement, I am glad I am not in the RCC as that is where the lies started. Are you one of them?
I personally do not like to be referred to other people's theories and thoughts, especially when I know what is right.
I have also recently written something about God's Name and include it herewith.
The tetragrammaton JHVH or JHWH, the name which the real God is known by, is misrepresented by many different names containing the tetragrammaton JHVH or JHWH. We cannot accept that every name that contains the tetragrammaton JHVH or JHWH, refers to the real God. As we don’t know what God’s real name is, we need to respect that and not give Him a name that He does not like. Everybody on this earth likes his own name and nobody dares to call him some other name. Who are we to give God a name that He may not like. If you take the tetragrammaton JHVH or JHWH and add one to two other speakable vowels ie. ae , ai, ao, au, ay, ei, eo, eu, ey, ia, ie, io, iu, iy, oa, oe, oi, ou, oy, ua, ue, ui, uo, uy, ya, ye, yi, yo, yu etc., you can end up with about 64 000 different names for only one tetragrammaton. We need to be very careful in giving God a name that He does not like as there is only one God and He only has one Name. The fact that there are now two tetragrammatons JHVH and JHWH quoted which makes it a double problem of 128 000 possible names. I would rather stick to God, God the Father or God Almighty than any other term.
You are just pointing at a similar word and saying, "Ha". We are purged of our sins, yes. My problem is this...when are you purged of your fallen mind? We all still sin willingly. We have a will that can still be convinced to fall, just as Adam and Eve's wills were convinced. When does that get corrected?
I can also give you texts to judge you, but that is not my place. Please supply some decent arguments why you don't agree or just keep quiet. You should rather look at what I am saying and see whether it might just be true. My writings are facts that I have found in my studying which I am willingly sharing with anybody who is interested in it. If you don't like what I am writing, before pointing fingers and judging me, rather ask the question, "am I not perhaps doing the wrong thing?".
Jesus is the Purger not purgatory. To replace Jesus with purgatory is manipulation systematically..
Our catholic brother and sister is being manipulate and need to open their eyes.
The main purpose of catholic teaching is to replace Jesus by reducing His authority.
1. Purgatory replace Jesus as a purger.
2. In one of the prayer in title surrender to Mary, Catholic ask Mary to take over their mind. slowly and subtly began directing catholic to give the alternative that there are others in which we must surrender our minds, not only Jesus.
3. They directed to believe that pray to Mary is better. Mary understand and accept sinner pray more then Jesus.
4. Mary is Queen of heaven that have great authority. at lease mean Jesus has to share power with Mary.
Our catholic brother and sister is being manipulate and need to open their eyes.
The main purpose of catholic teaching is to replace Jesus by reducing His authority.
1. Purgatory replace Jesus as a purger.
2. In one of the prayer in title surrender to Mary, Catholic ask Mary to take over their mind. slowly and subtly began directing catholic to give the alternative that there are others in which we must surrender our minds, not only Jesus.
3. They directed to believe that pray to Mary is better. Mary understand and accept sinner pray more then Jesus.
4. Mary is Queen of heaven that have great authority. at lease mean Jesus has to share power with Mary.
Are you going to force Jesus to share power with you when you are His spouse and reigning with Him forever?
no brother, I will surrender to His power, not share the power.
I will not replace Jesus with something else, Jesus is my purger, my Lord where I surrender my mind not to something else.
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Kerry
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The non rapture people use it so. The word Purgatory is not in the bible so therefore it doe's not exist. The word nuclear bomb is not in the bible so therefore ir doe'w not exist.
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Kerry
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I think we all are doing that, and that is judging one another. People needs correction, but not to be judge for their mistakes. The Catholics does believe that Purgatory is of a physical nature is because they are perceiving the word like almost every other Christians are doing, and that is of the physical nature. Yes, we condemned the Catholics because their sight is poor, like ours; but eventhough, we claim that we can see. Purgatory is a period in our life that we all must goes through for the finishing touch before we move on to the next stage; and that is letting the devil to see if you can curse God. But Jesus said no one can't snatch none of His from out of his hands. So let the devil try, because he is unaware that what he is doing is strengthening us from wanting not to sin anymore. So he is purging us from sin, like he has purge Job.
The subject that I have been discussing is that Purgatory AFTER DEATH, does not exist and not about purgatory while you are alive. You make your own choices everyday in life and I think your final choice before your death is the choice that will determine whether you will join God's saved group that will experience everlasting life, or Satan's unsaved group that will be devoured by fire and brimstone. Purgatory AFTER DEATH, taught by the RCC is not in line with the Bible and is a false teaching.
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didymos
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Good question.
Let say we are a sinner, our mind full with adultery. In this teaching if we burn our self Than our mind will clean.
For temporary it may because of pain we suffer. But as soon as the fire off, we recover, it will back.
Only the blood of Jesus clean in the sense of forgive our sin. Only if He, the King of king dwell in our heart than we purge.
Our purger is not fire but Jesus.