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You are most welcome, my brother. I believe the KJV is perfect and without error and I in my journey when I was presented with so called contradictions within it, I had managed to find out later that they were not contradictions at all. People try to correct God's Word, when in reality it should always be God's Word that corrects us.
Here is another thread I created that lists close to 50 verses that defends point Number 1 (even more) from my previous post.
ECT Defending 1 Word of God (KJV) using Scripture! - Theology Online | Christian Forums & More
ECT Defending 1 Word of God (KJV) using Scripture! - Theology Online | Christian Forums & More
The Authorized Geneva Bible vs that Modernist KJV, unauthorized!
Now what right did a King of England have to change the Geneva Bible?
As I understand it, our pilgrim pappies preferred the good ol' Geneva!
The Geneva has been preserved! How dare the KJV unpreserve it.
If the Geneva was good enough for our founding fathers, why isn't it good enough for you?
Now what right did a King of England have to change the Geneva Bible?
As I understand it, our pilgrim pappies preferred the good ol' Geneva!
The Geneva has been preserved! How dare the KJV unpreserve it.
If the Geneva was good enough for our founding fathers, why isn't it good enough for you?
Re: The Authorized Geneva Bible vs that Modernist KJV, unauthorized!
The Geneva Bible does not stand up to the integrity of the KJV. Here are just a few examples.
1. The Geneva Bible has Elhanah killing Goliath, when most of today's Sunday school children know that it was David (2 Samuel 21:19 KJV).
Geneva Bible Version of 2 Samuel 21:19
2. The Geneva Bible says that the Son of God (i.e. Jesus) was made lower than God instead saying that He was made lower than the angels (Psalm 8:4-5 KJV).
Geneva Bible Version of Psalm 8:4-5
3. The Geneva Bible changes "HIS EYE SHALL BE EVIL TOWARD his brother", to "SHALL BE GRIEVED at his brother" in Deuteronomy (Deuteronomy 28:54 KJV).
Geneva Bible Version of Deuteronomy 28:54
Source:
Authorized Version Defence Deficiencies of Geneva Bible
The Geneva Bible does not stand up to the integrity of the KJV. Here are just a few examples.
1. The Geneva Bible has Elhanah killing Goliath, when most of today's Sunday school children know that it was David (2 Samuel 21:19 KJV).
Geneva Bible Version of 2 Samuel 21:19
2. The Geneva Bible says that the Son of God (i.e. Jesus) was made lower than God instead saying that He was made lower than the angels (Psalm 8:4-5 KJV).
Geneva Bible Version of Psalm 8:4-5
3. The Geneva Bible changes "HIS EYE SHALL BE EVIL TOWARD his brother", to "SHALL BE GRIEVED at his brother" in Deuteronomy (Deuteronomy 28:54 KJV).
Geneva Bible Version of Deuteronomy 28:54
Source:
Authorized Version Defence Deficiencies of Geneva Bible
Re: The Authorized Geneva Bible vs that Modernist KJV, unauthorized!
1. The Geneva Bible has Elhanah killing Goliath, when most of today's Sunday school children know that it was David (2 Samuel 21:19 KJV)./QUOTE Jason0047
My question is who translated the name Elkanah to Elhanah and then much later on to David?
Because the meaning of the Word David doesn't have the same meaning as Elkanah in the first place.
1. The Geneva Bible has Elhanah killing Goliath, when most of today's Sunday school children know that it was David (2 Samuel 21:19 KJV)./QUOTE Jason0047
My question is who translated the name Elkanah to Elhanah and then much later on to David?
Because the meaning of the Word David doesn't have the same meaning as Elkanah in the first place.
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2Thewaters
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each version has its weaknesses and strengths
the kjv weakness is you had 52 guys who were church of england once saved always saved predsetinationists who really got some verses pretty unclear on that
they also removed the SABBATH DAY from the new testament 82 times and twisted PASSOVER into EASTER
so there is some problems with KJV
removing scriptures and supstituting other words makes it unclear
also king james was a king and did not want to kneel donw to God to pray so he had them change ALL the bible verses that said BARAK (KNEEL DOWN) to another word called blessed
which means nothing at all
so he didnt have to kneel
there are several other words they CHANGED just to suit their religion and ADDED GREEL MYTHOLOGY in HELL and changed
"Completely burned up" to ETERNAL BURNING which is false for hell
all you have to do is click on the strongs words and you will see lots of words they absolutely just changed whenever they felt like it
when you read other versions, they were not CHURCH OF ENGLAND so they didnt twist those texts they twisted OTHER TEXTS
the NIV in hebrews 12:9 acutally left in the SABBATH DAY WORSHIP instead of changing it to WEEK
so bottome line is
read as many versions as you can
when they differe from the KJV
then look it up
you will find about 50 % of the time the KJV is just bad word choice from original language and 50% it is right and good
anyway it makes you study
now the BAPTISTS and a few others SWEAR by the kjv
why?
because it is the only version that supports the false doctrines of once saved always saved (because church of england twisted key verses) and other versions dont support their theiries on predestination either
so they naturally
because they dont study
think the other versions are WRONG
when actualy the other versions are RIGHT
funny isnt it?
anyway
pray and read many versions God will give us the truth
click on the strongs numbers and you will get the real bible but it takes time
so easier to get a 4 version parallel bible and read that
very good way to study
when it contradicts with a kjv verse
get the concordance out and look it up
if it is about predestination and once saved always saved the kjv will always be wrong obvious twisting ...
we see through a glass darkly
but one thing you should do is look up all texts on BLESS in kjv and when you see that word you should say outlout
KNEEL DOWN for that is what bless means
to KNEEL DONW
but they wont tell you that
also
every WEEK in the kjv shoueld be actually SABBATH DAY instead
85 times the Sabbath was REMOVED FOR NO GOOD REASON for kjv, because
well
because they kept sunday
and they didnt want to keep sabbath
funny, isnt it?
no wonder baptists go fanatic over kjv it supports their doctrines, albight falsley.
the kjv weakness is you had 52 guys who were church of england once saved always saved predsetinationists who really got some verses pretty unclear on that
they also removed the SABBATH DAY from the new testament 82 times and twisted PASSOVER into EASTER
so there is some problems with KJV
removing scriptures and supstituting other words makes it unclear
also king james was a king and did not want to kneel donw to God to pray so he had them change ALL the bible verses that said BARAK (KNEEL DOWN) to another word called blessed
which means nothing at all
so he didnt have to kneel
there are several other words they CHANGED just to suit their religion and ADDED GREEL MYTHOLOGY in HELL and changed
"Completely burned up" to ETERNAL BURNING which is false for hell
all you have to do is click on the strongs words and you will see lots of words they absolutely just changed whenever they felt like it
when you read other versions, they were not CHURCH OF ENGLAND so they didnt twist those texts they twisted OTHER TEXTS
the NIV in hebrews 12:9 acutally left in the SABBATH DAY WORSHIP instead of changing it to WEEK
so bottome line is
read as many versions as you can
when they differe from the KJV
then look it up
you will find about 50 % of the time the KJV is just bad word choice from original language and 50% it is right and good
anyway it makes you study
now the BAPTISTS and a few others SWEAR by the kjv
why?
because it is the only version that supports the false doctrines of once saved always saved (because church of england twisted key verses) and other versions dont support their theiries on predestination either
so they naturally
because they dont study
think the other versions are WRONG
when actualy the other versions are RIGHT
funny isnt it?
anyway
pray and read many versions God will give us the truth
click on the strongs numbers and you will get the real bible but it takes time
so easier to get a 4 version parallel bible and read that
very good way to study
when it contradicts with a kjv verse
get the concordance out and look it up
if it is about predestination and once saved always saved the kjv will always be wrong obvious twisting ...
we see through a glass darkly
but one thing you should do is look up all texts on BLESS in kjv and when you see that word you should say outlout
KNEEL DOWN for that is what bless means
to KNEEL DONW
but they wont tell you that
also
every WEEK in the kjv shoueld be actually SABBATH DAY instead
85 times the Sabbath was REMOVED FOR NO GOOD REASON for kjv, because
well
because they kept sunday
and they didnt want to keep sabbath
funny, isnt it?
no wonder baptists go fanatic over kjv it supports their doctrines, albight falsley.
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2Thewaters
Guest
Re: The Authorized Geneva Bible vs that Modernist KJV, unauthorized!
Kjv is the best study bible
but you should actually study it
it is, like all the other Bibles, the word of God and inerrant
the translators just had a bad day with it...
look up the greek words,
dont rely on the english words they chose they are sometimes not clear.
Kjv is the best study bible
but you should actually study it
it is, like all the other Bibles, the word of God and inerrant
the translators just had a bad day with it...
look up the greek words,
dont rely on the english words they chose they are sometimes not clear.
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2Thewaters
Guest
oh
hell should be GRAVE in kjv
they sort of believed in the catholic eternal torture greek mythology so they just changed grave to hell everywhere and they even changed the definition in strongs to say so
have to ignore that one
satan burns up into ashes
and man returns to dust
there is no eternal hell
there is a lake of fire but no eternal hell in the kjv if you look up the words in strongs all references were for grave like lazaurs went to grave
so they took the word SHEOL
which means GRAVE
and turned it all to HELL except when JEsus went to SHEOL they said TOMB and when lazaurus was put in tomb they didnt say lazurus was put in hell
so they are not consistanat
hell should be sheol GRAVE
easy to prove.
come out of babylon
(pagan sun worshippers invented eternal torment.....)
bet you didnt know that...
hell should be GRAVE in kjv
they sort of believed in the catholic eternal torture greek mythology so they just changed grave to hell everywhere and they even changed the definition in strongs to say so
have to ignore that one
satan burns up into ashes
and man returns to dust
there is no eternal hell
there is a lake of fire but no eternal hell in the kjv if you look up the words in strongs all references were for grave like lazaurs went to grave
so they took the word SHEOL
which means GRAVE
and turned it all to HELL except when JEsus went to SHEOL they said TOMB and when lazaurus was put in tomb they didnt say lazurus was put in hell
so they are not consistanat
hell should be sheol GRAVE
easy to prove.
come out of babylon
(pagan sun worshippers invented eternal torment.....)
bet you didnt know that...
First, what perfect translation are you comparing the KJV, too?
Which Greek manuscripts are you basing your NT view off of?
Have you confirmed with observational evidence that the Greek manuscripts you are looking to are perfect and without error?
Did you know there are two major sets of Greek manuscripts that all translations are based off today?
Second, when you compare the KJV next to the Modern Versions, it is a living nightmare. So much is changed for the worse and not for the better.
Third, you are using human reason and understanding when you are seeing errors in the KJV where none exist. Anyone can point out a supposed contradiction. It is quite another matter to actually be able to prove that is an actual contradiction or not.
Fourth, in my walk with God, there has been some really tough supposed contradictions that were thrown my way concerning the KJV. But you know what? I was able to resolve each and everyone one of them in time with the help from my God. But hey. If you want to see error, that's what you are always going to see. The atheists see all kinds of errors in the Bible where none exist, too. That's kind of the point I am getting at.
This is all nitpicking. For example, I seen an article at a certain popular Christian website saying that there were lots of word changes in the KJV. I was curious to see what these word changes were. Most of them were spelling changes! And others were printing errors. That is what I would call nitpicking. It reminds me of Matthew 23:24.
Any version that can bring a lost person to the knowledge of Jesus Christ is not an evil version. However if you are going to study the Word of God, then do it with the King James Version, which God has protected and preserved for hundreds of years and still does to this day.
KJV versus Other Versions
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I believe in the Condtional View of Hell (i.e. that the wicked will eventually be destroyed in the Lake of Fire). I know most all the popular verses that appear to talk of eternal suffering from ECT (Eternal Concious Torment) view. They are simply misinterpreting those passages beyond the context and do not realize that the Bible (KJV) sometimes uses words like "forever" as not representing something that is eternal.
Side Note: Please give me time to list those verses.
I am sorry to inform you that the Bible does not say that Mr. Strong and his tons of friends who worked on the Strong's Concordance were not inspired by God, my friend.
Yes, the Strong's can be a helpful tool, but it is not the Word of God.
Why study with the KJV?
Why not study in the original language texts?
How do you know that God has protected and preserved the KJV more than other versions?
Have you confirmed with observational evidence that the KJV you are looking at is prefect & without error?
How do you know it is a nightmare? How do you know that much is changed for the worse?
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Proof?
How do you know what they believed?
How do you know that Greek mythology advocated eternal torture? Can you prove that from Homer or Hesiod? Have you ever read Homer and Hesiod?
Proof?
How do you know that?
For the English speaking peoples of the World God made sure there was an accurate translation for English speaking peoples of the World.
Because i do not speak Hebrew or Greek or Aramaic. However in my younger days i did study the original languages concerning the Word. Actually satan uses that as a tool to even misguide people even more from the Truth. Please read my article:
Hebrew Greek English?
History.
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I'm still waiting to some one to show a single verse in the bible that says the scriptures that Jesus and all the disciples read from would corrupt. Where does the fallibility of scripture come from? Any takers... anybody have a clue?
I'm also still waiting for some one to show one single error in the KJV. I've been defending the KJV for about five years and not one person has ever been able to prove a single error in the KJV. Any of you know of one?
I'm also still waiting for some one to show one single error in the KJV. I've been defending the KJV for about five years and not one person has ever been able to prove a single error in the KJV. Any of you know of one?
Yep. Go back a few posts and you will see my three major reasons based on Scripture.
From reading books, articles, watching videos, and confirming that information sometimes for myself.