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Jake_from_state_farm

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(Okay, let me share my thought here and see if anyone else has touched on it already. *scrolls down)
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Haha.. (okay, all kidding aside), I think if you gave your all, your everything, then that alone should be your satisfaction whether she reciprocates or not. I know it would be wonderful if she does the same, but at least have no regret or disappointment if you've given your all. AND... focusing on God and dating Christian women should be like a standard practice as commented.





The thing is... I dont go to any church because I dont like any of the ones that are around my area or other areas that are close. so It is Very hard for me to find a christian women that is actually following her faith.
 
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I guess I need to start dating christian women... because nothing else is working.

Not necessarily, you need to focus on women with good virtues and moral values. Many of these non-Christian women probably wouldn't have a problem converting to the Christian life if they are in love with their future husband. We all know the story of Ruth, who was a Moabite but married a Jew. Her Jewish faith was tested but she prevailed and later remarried another Jewish man, Boaz, a very wealthy landowner. Boaz was very impressed with her newly elected Jewish faith. Please remember Moabites were greatly despised by the Jews because of their pagan worship & human sacrifices.
Ummmmm.......No. Women have done this a million times over & failed to change the other. Why would you teach him this against God's Word?

2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (KJV) [SUP]14 [/SUP]Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? [SUP]15 [/SUP]And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? [SUP]16 [/SUP]And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, [SUP]18 [/SUP]And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
 
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I guess I need to start dating christian women... because nothing else is working.

Not necessarily, you need to focus on women with good virtues and moral values. Many of these non-Christian women probably wouldn't have a problem converting to the Christian life if they are in love with their future husband.
I disagree with this statement. Just needed to say that.

Jake, if you are a Christian, you definitely need to be looking for a Christian mate. This doesn't guarantee that the young lady will be perfect - Christians have the same struggles as anyone else - but it should be your starting place. How can two build up the kingdom of God together when they serve different masters?

For the rest... you can often tell a lot about someone before becoming emotionally attached to them. Be wise in who you choose to begin a relationship with. If there are red flags, protect yourself and proceed with caution.
 

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Christians should date and marry other Christians. When you're at the lowest point in a relationship and the person you're seeing isn't following Christ, what is your leaning point? There is none.
 
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Ummmmm.......No. Women have done this a million times over & failed to change the other. Why would you teach him this against God's Word?

2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (KJV) [SUP]14 [/SUP]Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? [SUP]15 [/SUP]And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? [SUP]16 [/SUP]And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, [SUP]18 [/SUP]And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
There are two types of Christian women (&men). Those who wear the love of Christ in their hearts versus those who wear it on their sleeves or as a form of jewelry. If they are not the former, then they really aren't any better than the average secular women. I have met some incredible secular women who wouldn't have a problem marrying a Christian man and converting herself to Christian status. Ruth is a prime example in the Jewish faith. Somehow we want to believe that the Christian woman is the answer ... well if it was so, why are so many Christian men complaining about them and vice versa. A faithless Christian woman can take a Christian husband to the "cleaners" just as quickly as a secular woman. You may want to read my post again because my emphasis was on getting a woman of virtues to convert to Christ for marriage.
 
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Sometimes when you give your all to God, it will capture the right woman's heart... Because on the inside, we are all really just seeking Christ... And when she sees that in you (the right woman if there is one...), she will fall head over heels in love with you.

Dont give your all to people, give it to God because He can do so much more with it.
 
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I disagree with this statement. Just needed to say that.

Jake, if you are a Christian, you definitely need to be looking for a Christian mate. This doesn't guarantee that the young lady will be perfect - Christians have the same struggles as anyone else - but it should be your starting place. How can two build up the kingdom of God together when they serve different masters?

For the rest... you can often tell a lot about someone before becoming emotionally attached to them. Be wise in who you choose to begin a relationship with. If there are red flags, protect yourself and proceed with caution.
That would be up to Jake and the Christian men and of course , you are entitled to your opinion. Depending on where the woman is wearing her faith in Christ (in jewelry, sleeve or heart), she is really more or less not any better than a secular woman who wants to convert. Some of the most vicious, most cruel & evil women I know are Christian women. Not all but many.
 
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There are two types of Christian women (&men). Those who wear the love of Christ in their hearts versus those who wear it on their sleeves or as a form of jewelry. If they are not the former, then they really aren't any better than the average secular women. I have met some incredible secular women who wouldn't have a problem marrying a Christian man and converting herself to Christian status. Ruth is a prime example in the Jewish faith. Somehow we want to believe that the Christian woman is the answer ... well if it was so, why are so many Christian men complaining about them and vice versa. A faithless Christian woman can take a Christian husband to the "cleaners" just as quickly as a secular woman. You may want to read my post again because my emphasis was on getting a woman of virtues to convert to Christ for marriage.
Ruth was already a believer before she even knew who Boaz was.......

Ruth 1:16 (KJV) [SUP]16 [/SUP]And Ruth said, Intreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee: for whither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God:

The Bible should never be ignored.... unequally yoked is what it is. God wouldn't want any of His children to break His word. No opinion should supersede the Word of God; doing so is sin in itself.

About that post (green):

John 6:44 (KJV) [SUP]44 [/SUP]No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

God has His own time to deal with individuals.... we can't force His hand, nor can we convince somebody to get saved who has virtues or morals.

Zechariah 4:6 (KJV) [SUP]6 [/SUP]Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by (man's) might, nor by (man's) power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.
 
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That would be up to Jake and the Christian men and of course , you are entitled to your opinion. Depending on where the woman is wearing her faith in Christ (in jewelry, sleeve or heart), she is really more or less not any better than a secular woman who wants to convert. Some of the most vicious, most cruel & evil women I know are Christian women. Not all but many.
BIG difference between church women & Christian women..... just sayin'.
 
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BIG difference between church women & Christian women..... just sayin'.
Okay! but if neither group (church woman or Christian one) is carrying the faith of Christ in her heart ... then the woman in my opinion is not worthy of a Christian husband if he has the faith in his heart. Let's just hope & pray that the two groups (Christian man & woman) who have the faith of Christ in their hearts can find each for matrimony. Just too many hypocrites out there.
 
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Okay! but if neither group (church woman or Christian one) is carrying the faith of Christ in her heart ... then the woman in my opinion is not worthy of a Christian husband if he has the faith in his heart. Let's just hope & pray that the two groups (Christian man & woman) who have the faith of Christ in their hearts can find each for matrimony. Just too many hypocrites out there.
That's why we're supposed to pray & let God do the choosing...... He know where the "good ones" are. ;)
 
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That's why we're supposed to pray & let God do the choosing...... He know where the "good ones" are. ;)
Agree with you. Sadly, most Christians aren't saved (hypocrites) and do not have a relationship with Jesus (secular). Therefore, God is not assisting them and that why they are making bad choices.
 
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Biscuit, anyone who isn't saved isn't a Christian in the first place.

Also, we should be trying to bring others into the fold whether or not we would like a spouse. Don't date someone in an attempt to convert them, peeps.
 
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Biscuit, anyone who isn't saved isn't a Christian in the first place.

You may want to tell that to the millions of so-called Christians. Good Luck

Also, we should be trying to bring others into the fold whether or not we would like a spouse. Don't date someone in an attempt to convert them, peeps.

Does that include so-called Christians who aren't saved.
 
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biscuit

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Don't date someone in an attempt to convert them, peeps.

I was making a reference to marriage not dating.
 

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To the first burgundy bit: it doesn't matter what they think if they're wrong; an unsaved person isn't a Christian.

To the second: of course we shouldn't date those who aren't saved. In fact, don't date someone who IS saved if he or she doesn't act like a Christian should. Although, if a believer doesn't act like a Christian him or her self, it's almost irrelevant who that person dates, as he or she isn't a follower at that point anyway.

Again, all need to hear the Gospel. Also, as to the definition of "dating", I'm not saying that in the history of the planet there has never been a case in which God wouldn't want one of His followers to have a cup of coffee with an unbeliever. Quite the opposite, in fact... however, meeting someone at various times hoping to wind up with that person as a spouse one day is another story.

Signing off now, peeps...
 
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That would be up to Jake and the Christian men and of course , you are entitled to your opinion. Depending on where the woman is wearing her faith in Christ (in jewelry, sleeve or heart), she is really more or less not any better than a secular woman who wants to convert. Some of the most vicious, most cruel & evil women I know are Christian women. Not all but many.
I also have heard that from a woman who made her living on prostitution... I also have seen several who have turned back to follow Jesus...

And in my family there were a couple who stopped that life to follow the son of God. Their numbers are more, as I dared to think.

jesus said: "Mat 21:31 Which one of the two did what his father wanted?" "The older one," they answered. So Jesus said to them, "I tell you: the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the Kingdom of God ahead of you. "
 
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Sometimes I stay up late looking at the stars wondering why...why do all the women I have chosen to be in a relationship with throws me away? why do I always chose to give them my all when I know they give me little. I am tired of all the heart ache and the disappointment. Yet...God says keep looking. How can I be positive about this? I don't know anymore. I am lost in a sea of confusion. I guess I need to start dating christian women... because nothing else is working. SO I tell you... I am looking for something real.. and maybe give me a reason why I should not be so confused.
AS far as I knew: It doesn´t matter how much you gave, that is LOVE: Giving! The problem was THEIRS, not yours.

Don´t look back, please, brother:

Mat 5:42 When someone asks you for something, give it to him; when someone wants to borrow something, lend it to him.

You walked in faith, do not look back, please. The problem was theirs:

Luk 6:30 Give to everyone who asks you for something, and when someone takes what is yours, do not ask for it back.

Love is a gift! It cannot be bought nor held, it´s free (I have been there)
 
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Btw! Being Christian or not is not a safeguard!

Some used it as a disguise to lure away or to get a "better" men, also. It´s probable they could be more aware of certain things, but the religion can be faked like many things you know as fakable.
 
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Just to the ones having a conversation between what christian is... does it matter if they are wearing it in anyway... as long as they truly love god and is working every day to pursue him?