Crimes of the Elite Against Children

[Stephen63]

There is a situation here where IMO folks are taking a firm stand on both sides of the issue, with the possibility of both being wrong.

I agree that the story doesn't have a lot of proven absolutes in it. I hear those disagreeing. It doesn't help that major media purposely doesn't cover such stories even if it had mountains of evidence.

On the flip side..... It is a fact that back in February when this news came out, the Pope resigned.

When intense research is done on the catholic church, many things are discovered that would blow your mind. So we know the capacity for illegal activities are truly there.

One thing I know personally know about conspiracy theorists is when they can't find tangible evidence to prove an issue, they will often fabricate claims on a website to "kickstart" an investigation so that real evidence will surface. I'm not saying this is the issue here, but the possibility is there.

Now, let's look at the stories...... When searching for Ratzinger & Elizabeth together, there's dozens of stories, videos & blogs about this subject.

Now I have to ask my own questions...... such as why these two aren't suing these accusers for destroying their character? Why are they quiet? Why is the catholic church not making a big stink about this when they make stinks about everything else? If the queen wanted these people arrested, we all know they'd be in prison right now.

I believe I have enough information to make a hypothesis, to come my own conclusion, but I still don't have a shred of tangible evidence. If it's not yet considered facts by reputable sources (more than one), then it's not factual, but it's worth considering when other facts are known.

Just because tangible facts aren't presented doesn't give license to automatically call someone a heretic or a nut. Slurs only prove that someone is neither mature or Christlike......I should know, I've been there myself.

If you believe something is false, simply ask for evidence...... but remember, If you can't give evidence to the contrary, you're in the same boat. The only way one side can be right is if they have tangible evidence.

Whether intentional or not, I see projection on both sides. I can't prove this, but as an analytical thinker, I see what is to me the obvious.

It is my opinion that Allin has something worth looking into...... just because somebody used the conspiracy word doesn't amount to jack. If you don't want to be accused of attacking, find a more mature way to make your point...... because he that judges does the same things.

 

[ThomistColin]

Remember however Stephen63 that the lack of evidence to the contrary is not proof of the former. You can never prove a negative.

 

[Stephen63]

Remember however Stephen63 that the lack of evidence to the contrary is not proof of the former. You can never prove a negative.

That's where you're wrong....... Prove these people are good & pure & have never been involved in anything..... You'll know them by their fruits.

 

[Stephen63]

Do you recognize anything in these pics? These were easily found in a few minutes

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Dim bulb, those weren't dinner. They were school children who won a visit with Queen Elizabeth and the Pope as part of a national campaign organized by the Italian Bishops Conference in support of schools. The theme of the campaign was that humanity needs to learn how to speak in three languages: the language of the mind, the language of the heart, and the language of the hands.

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I'd like to know when you and Allin had your picture taken together though:

 

[ThomistColin]

That's where you're wrong....... Prove these people are good & pure & have never been involved in anything..... You'll know them by their fruits.

Actually you're wrong here. Why is it that one needs to prove innocence? Or are we assumed guilty before trials now?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Oh make no mistake, these two would revive "the terror" of the French Revolution and like Robespierre seek out the well to do to execute for fabricated "crimes" concocted by a blog author that invented a fake international court.

People like myself they would dispose of simply for standing up to their insane fabricated libel.

Be glad, be very glad, that they have no actual power to respawn such events and are just a couple of nutty jobs spreading smack on the Internet.

Actually you're wrong here. Why is it that one needs to prove innocence? Or are we assumed guilty before trials now?

 

[Stephen63]

AgeofKnowledge;1650756]Dim bulb, those weren't dinner. They were school children who won a visit with Queen Elizabeth and the Pope as part of a national campaign organized by the Italian Bishops Conference in support of schools. The theme of the campaign was that humanity needs to learn how to speak in three languages: the language of the mind, the language of the heart, and the language of the hands.

Just as I thought..... you didn't recognize the handshake. All this pic did was show their solidarity within their "club".

 

[Stephen63]

Actually you're wrong here. Why is it that one needs to prove innocence? Or are we assumed guilty before trials now?

I'm sorry.... I presumed that's the way you wanted it, since you are doing it.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

The United Grand Lodge of England does NOT admit women NOR accept Order of the Eastern Star members whatsoever (despite the Queen's nurse liking an OES belt buckle) and historically the Church of England and most of the British monarchy have been relatively hostile to freemasonry.

However, some of the patriarchy of the Royal family are freemasons. In fact, the most senior Freemason in England is Prince Edward, Duke of Kent, who is first cousin to the Queen and Grand Master of Freemasons in England and Wales.

Which, of course, poses a problem for your fabrication that the Pope and Queen Elizabeth are freemasons who barbecue students invited to visit them as part of a public national campaign to benefit schools and eat them after sexually abusing them and/or whatever else you've concocted in that insane fertile imagination of yours for if Queen Elizabeth were a Mason secretly (even though no women are admissible into the United Grand Lodge of England at all) she would be lower than the Prince and that's not going to happen in the Royal family.

Furthermore, the Pope is NOT a Freemason either as Masonry is prohibited by the Catholic Church. In fact, the leadership of the Roman Catholic Church has long been an outspoken critic of Freemasonry and the Vatican has made several pronouncements forbidding Catholics from becoming Freemasons under threat of excommunication.

The handshake you saw is not a secret freemason handshake but rather just one of many traditional handshakes. The closest freemason handshake to what's in that picture is the Lion’s Paw of the Master Mason and that's not it.

And it would be obvious, if you had any sense about you, that if both were members of some secret organization that engaged in criminal acts: they would not publicly advertise it in picture taking ceremonies.

Please DO take your medicine. It's GOOD for you.

Just as I thought..... you didn't recognize the handshake. All this pic did was show their solidarity within their "club".

 

[Stephen63]

Oh make no mistake, these two would revive "the terror" of the French Revolution and like Robespierre seek out the well to do to execute for fabricated "crimes" concocted by a blog author that invented a fake international court.

People like myself they would dispose of simply for standing up to their insane fabricated libel.

Be glad, be very glad, that they have no actual power to respawn such events and are just a couple of nutty jobs spreading smack on the Internet.

Have you ever thought of getting a job at Fox News? You have the qualifications.....

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Have you ever thought about seeking mental health assistance?

Have you ever thought of getting a job at Fox News? You have the qualifications.....

 

[tourist]

Have you ever thought about seeking mental health assistance?

The co-pays would eat up his budget.

 

[Allin]

this again summarizes the strategy and targets of your deception...

you don't want people to require that assertions be supported by arguments based on facts or evidence or plausibility...you want people to lower their standards of proof...

so you are here to take advantage of the easily misled...which makes you that much more harmful to the church and gives us all the more reason to oppose you...because you are preying on those who are most vulnerable in the faith...

enjoy your millstone...

It wasn't till I went to a church in Rochester, NY that seven (seven) satanists posing as Christians were uncovered and people also came forward to finally report the sexual and ritual abuse they suffered at the hands of these satanist plants. The plants were planted undiscovered in the church for fifteen years. On my first Sunday there, four of them stood out to me, and a fifth was uncovered. Later, two came from Germany under the guise of ministers who wanted to learn from the pastor's wife how to minister to survivors of sexual and ritual abuse at the hands of satanist groups. They were also uncovered. I would say that I was very useful, rather than harmful, to that church, because if I had not been there, those seven plants would not have been uncovered. But you are welcome to believe what you choose. I have seen these things firsthand, and this area of secrecy and the counter culture of which many of the elite are a part (sexual abuse and torture and murder of children and adults, etc.) is very heavily guarded.

 

[Allin]

the order you put things in here reveals a -lot- about you and how you come to your beliefs...

namely you have put the input of the holy spirit dead last in your process...and you have put actual research second to last...you have placed both behind unsubstantiated feelings and equally unsubstantiated speculation...

It was the Holy Spirit who revealed to me, and then confirmed to the entire pastoral team and their prayer team, six (and then seven) satanists in their church-- satanists who had posed as Christians for fifteen years (four years longer than the pastors had been there) totally undiscovered. Before I came to that church, one or two satanist plants had been discovered and ejected from the church who were new to the church (one of them was a single mother of four who sought to use her need for support to throw wool over the eyes of the sheep); but satanist plants among Christians speak Christianese well and are taught to act like Christians, therefore, the five who had been there fifteen years (one of who lived directly across the street from the church, one who was an usher and had the keys to the church through which they were able to use the church to abuse people when it was not in use, and at least one or two who were on the pastoral board) fit in perfectly with Christians. The Lord tried to reveal their identity to the pastors particularly, but Christians are rarely ever discerning and just want everyone to 'get along' and cannot discern the heart or motives of anyone really, therefore, they often don't know who their friends, co-workers, and Christian brethren really are. But I went there with my ears open to the Holy Spirit and my eyes open. Though I didn't expect to see any of this in that church, the Lord was able to show me because I listen.

So, if I indeed put the input of the Holy Spirit last, in that instance I put it first, and He exposed five entrenched satanist plants/wolves in sheep's clothing as well as two more who came from Germany. Unlike so many others, I have seen and lived the things that I share and do not share simply from reading or studying the Bible. But the Holy Spirit helped me; instead of just revealing this to me alone, He only revealed it to me first. When I shared it with the pastoral team and told them to pray (because He had already spoken to them regarding me before I even got there), in both instances (with the five plants in the church and then with the two plants who came from Germany), He confirmed to them all individually that what He'd shown me was true-- that those seven people were indeed satanists posing as Christians but who were in the church to destroy it. The pastor's wife also reported that they had (unknown to her until I came) caused her and her husband several church splits in the past. Whether the input of the Holy Spirit is first or last, the important thing is that we are wise enough to know that we need His input and not substitute our knowledge of the Bible for the Holy Spirit.

 

[Allin]

There is a situation here where IMO folks are taking a firm stand on both sides of the issue, with the possibility of both being wrong.

The only real stance I take is that everything should be looked into when it allegedly involves the abuse or harm of human beings. The Bereans didn't simply take Paul at his word neither did they accuse and attack him. They rather investigated what he said. I have learned a lot through investigation and once wanted to be an investigative journalist (till I found that unwanted stories are either edited down to little or nothing or simply never make network news) and a lawyer. I changed my mind as I'm not the 'prosecuting type'. Exposing evil is good, but it doesn't get the good news out to people the same way that living the good news does. People believe good people; period. People may be deceived by people who pretend to be good; but authentic goodness has something about it that draws people by flocks and droves. Jesus had this, and no matter how His enemies tried to discredit Him and disqualify His message, the people loved Him for His genuine goodness and love for them.

Exposing evil can only go so far, because it appears as attacking (and it is attacking evil) which most people don't like. But people believe a good person, therefore, the greater importance is on Christlikeness. Jesus got His message out to the people through His Love for them. "People don't care how much you know unless they know how much you care." When Christians who are certified as caring for people (and not attacking people or ideologies) take a stand and report these same types of things among everything else they report, there will be very few people who won't believe them, because the people know that they care about people. And that's how it works. People may reject hostility or what seems to be hositility; but people (except those who have something to lose like the Pharisees) are naturally drawn to people who love and care for them. I see and live this everyday, and it is the way things are: truth tends to repel people, but if Love comes first, well.

 

[Allin]

Do you recognize anything in these pics? These were easily found in a few minutes

The masonic handshake. How sad. These people don't even like each other, and a kingdom divided against itself must fall (lose) in the end.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

It's NOT a masonic handshake Allin. You should bother to read your own threads. The Queen is NOT a mason and NEITHER is the Pope. Stephen was making a false assertion from ignorance just like you did with your "international court" circus routine.

Do you recognize anything in these pics? These were easily found in a few minutes

The masonic handshake. How sad. These people don't even like each other, and a kingdom divided against itself must fall (lose) in the end.

 

[Stephen63]

Just as I thought..... you didn't recognize the handshake. All this pic did was show their solidarity within their "club".

While she doesn't seem to be a member (because she is a woman) she does hobnob with them, & most of her household is.

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Freemasons Open a Lodge at Buckingham Palace - The Royal Household Lodge
2008 03 12
By Sarah Oliver | dailymail.co.uk

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A branch of the Freemasons secret society is being formed by members of the Royal Household and police who protect the Royal Family.

And their decision to call it The Royal Household Lodge has put them on a collision course with Buckingham Palace – as has their plan to co-opt the royal cipher – EIIR – for their regalia, to underline their connection to the Queen.

Although the Queen's cousin, the Duke of Kent, is head of the secretive organisation – he is Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England – the new branch has not gone down well with the Royal Family.

Ed comment: Also note that the recently deceased Grand Master of the Order of Knights of Malta, Andrew Bertie, was the fourth cousin twice removed of Queen Elizabeth II.

The Palace has no power to halt the formation of the lodge, but it is determined to stop it adopting its chosen name and block it from hijacking the Queen's EIIR.

Use of the Royal Household title and any related symbols requires official permission.

Angry officials clearly feel the new lodge's proposed name is the last thing the Palace needs at a time when it is trying to be seen as more modern and open.

Last night, a spokesman for the Queen said: “Buckingham Palace has not, and would not, endorse this sort of arrangement. No permission has been given by the Palace for a Buckingham Palace lodge or anything similar.

“If permission is sought, it will be declined.”

The founding of the lodge has also alarmed some Royal staff who do not wish to be associated with the fraternity famed for bizarre initiation rites, mystical regalia and mysterious codes of conduct.

It is also likely to cause consternation among career women in the Palace, as it is a men-only organisation.
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[Stephen63]

But.....she IS a member of the Jesuit Knights of Malta, which is far worse & has historical ties to the Knights Templar. This group is sanctioned & protected by the catholic church.

Do a Google search & find them yerself.