Trinity?

[newbirth]

You are now saying that the Holy Ghost impregnated Mary. What next?

It is in the scripture...
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. [SUP]30 [/SUP]But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. [SUP]31 [/SUP]You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. [SUP]32 [/SUP]He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, [SUP]33 [/SUP]and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”
[SUP]34 [/SUP]“How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
[SUP]35 [/SUP]The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[SUP][b][/SUP] the Son of God. [SUP]36 [/SUP]Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be unable to conceive is in her sixth month. [SUP]37 [/SUP]For no word from God will ever fail.”
[SUP]38 [/SUP]“I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her.

 

[TruthFromFrank]

Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

Seeing that you know so much, please explain to me how God created Jesus, and how was Adam and Eve created, with NO woman around when you imply that God had sex with Mary?

 

[TruthFromFrank]

It is in the scripture...
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. [SUP]30 [/SUP]But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. [SUP]31 [/SUP]You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus. [SUP]32 [/SUP]He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, [SUP]33 [/SUP]and he will reign over Jacob’s descendants forever; his kingdom will never end.”
[SUP]34 [/SUP]“How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
[SUP]35 [/SUP]The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[SUP][b][/SUP] the Son of God. [SUP]36 [/SUP]Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be unable to conceive is in her sixth month. [SUP]37 [/SUP]For no word from God will ever fail.”
[SUP]38 [/SUP]“I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her.

So, the word Power of the Most High will overshadow you, is His sexual Power?? Rather a sick argument of yours to say the least. It is quite obvious that you have a lot of sex on your mind and we do not need sick people on this site.

 

[newbirth]

Seeing that you know so much, please explain to me how God created Jesus, and how was Adam and Eve created, with NO woman around when you imply that God had sex with Mary?

Every woman needs a male sperm to fertilise her eggs in order to become pregnant...why is Jesus called the only begotten of the Father? God did not go into details we know it was not physical sex else she would not still be a virgin while being pregnant. So she had to be spiritually / artificially inseminated . God formed Adam out of the earth and he took a rib from Adam to make Eve.

 

[newbirth]

So, the word Power of the Most High will overshadow you, is His sexual Power?? Rather a sick argument of yours to say the least. It is quite obvious that you have a lot of sex on your mind and we do not need sick people on this site.

That is all the detail we get from the scripture you are jumping to conclusions...Mary was still a virgin when she was pregnant...sex is not the only way to impregnate someone.
What is wrong with sex ?, Is it not how we procreate? Do you not believe the testimony of God...
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.

 

[TruthFromFrank]

That is all the detail we get from the scripture you are jumping to conclusions...Mary was still a virgin when she was pregnant...sex is not the only way to impregnate someone.
What is wrong with sex ?, Is it not how we procreate? Do you not believe the testimony of God...
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.

You did not answer my question how Jesus, Adam and Eve were created without a woman. Give me a proper answer and I will tell you how God did it.

 

[newbirth]

You did not answer my question how Jesus, Adam and Eve were created without a woman. Give me a proper answer and I will tell you how God did it.

Jesus was not created....Adam was formed from the dust of the earth Eve was mad from one of Adam's rib.

 

[Bowman]

Ecclesiastes 12.1

Remember now your Creators (Plural) in the days of your youth, while the evil days do not come, or the years strike when you shall say, I have no pleasure in them;

 

[newbirth]

Ecclesiastes 12.1

Remember now your Creators (Plural)in the days of your youth, while the evil days do not come, or the years strike when you shall say, I have no pleasure in them;

It does not say remember the trinity now, does it?

 

[Bowman]

It does not say remember the trinity now, does it?

No more than it says remember the monad.

 

[directline2iam]

21 century monad:

 

[Bowman]

21 century monad:

If you deny a Triune God, then you do NOT have eternal life.

Simple, Biblical Truth...

 

[directline2iam]

If you deny a Triune God, then you do NOT have eternal life.

Simple, Biblical Truth...

Chapter and verse please, otherwise stop preaching another gospel.

 

[Bowman]

Chapter and verse please, otherwise stop preaching another gospel.

αλλα ερχεται ωρα και νυν εστιν οτε οι αληθινοι προσκυνηται προσκυνησουσιν τω πατρι εν πνευματι και αληθεια και γαρ ο πατηρ τοιουτους ζητει τους προσκυνουντας αυτον πνευμα ο θεος και τους προσκυνουντας αυτον εν πνευματι και αληθεια δει προσκυνειν

 

[newbirth]

αλλα ερχεται ωρα και νυν εστιν οτε οι αληθινοι προσκυνηται προσκυνησουσιν τω πατρι εν πνευματι και αληθεια και γαρ ο πατηρ τοιουτους ζητει τους προσκυνουντας αυτον πνευμα ο θεος και τους προσκυνουντας αυτον εν πνευματι και αληθεια δει προσκυνειν

Quoting a verse in greek does not make God a trinity neither does it prove you wise....

 

[Gandalf]

The word trinity does not appear once in the Bible… BUT there is arguments for and against. My view on this is that while we are still in the flesh we will not fully understand the spiritual side of God. One day when all is said and done God will reveal all his “little” treasures to his children. Keep the faith, and no your salvation is definitely not determined by this.

 

[directline2iam]

αλλα ερχεται ωρα και νυν εστιν οτε οι αληθινοι προσκυνηται προσκυνησουσιν τω πατρι εν πνευματι και αληθεια και γαρ ο πατηρ τοιουτους ζητει τους προσκυνουντας αυτον πνευμα ο θεος και τους προσκυνουντας αυτον εν πνευματι και αληθεια δει προσκυνειν

πνευμα ο θεος και τους προσκυνουντας αυτον εν πνευματι και αληθεια δει προσκυνειν

The Father is Spirit-The Son is Spirit--And your theology-The Spirit is Spirit
Why don't you say it like it is: God is Father and Son and they are Spirit As the Greek shows in verse 24, God is Spirit.
How can you quote verse 23 as proof when you don't understand who you worship?

 

[newbirth]

The word trinity does not appear once in the Bible… BUT there is arguments for and against. My view on this is that while we are still in the flesh we will not fully understand the spiritual side of God. One day when all is said and done God will reveal all his “little” treasures to his children. Keep the faith, and no your salvation is definitely not determined by this.

Your last line is of concern to me...
Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

 

[Bowman]

πνευμα ο θεος και τους προσκυνουντας αυτον εν πνευματι και αληθεια δει προσκυνειν

The Father is Spirit-The Son is Spirit--And your theology-The Spirit is Spirit
Why don't you say it like it is: God is Father and Son and they are Spirit As the Greek shows in verse 24, God is Spirit.
How can you quote verse 23 as proof when you don't understand who you worship?

Scripture states that God is Spirit...NOT that The Father is Spirit.

You simply don't understand The Trinity.

 

[directline2iam]

Scripture states that God is Spirit...NOT that The Father is Spirit.

You simply don't understand The Trinity.

If the Father is God and God is Spirit then Father is Spirit. How can you not understand? There is no trinity-never was.