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Kenneth, so what if someone at judgment called the Lord Jesus Lord?
So you are in court & you call the judge "Your Honor" -- does that mean that you honor him?
Calling God "Lord" has nothing to do with being saved.
Every knee will bow & every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. That includes Adolf Hitler, every atheist, every agnostic, everyone who denies that the Lord Jesus is SAvior & regards Him as chance giver. It simply has nothing to do with believing on the Lord Jesus as SAvior.
And your saying this seems to imply that you don't know what it means to believe in the Son of God. Regarding Him as God doesn't save either. It is not what you think He is, but that you trust Him as SAvior.
And that fact has no bearing on the topic of Mat 25. Mat 25 is about judgment. No one gets saved there; the word salvation does not occur, save does not occur, Savior does not occur. Salvation is about the Lord Jesus saving sinners, helping them out, making them new. That is not in Mat 25.
May the Lord open your eyes to realize that He has clear teaching on salvation, and that salvation is not judgment. Anyone who goes to eternal life from judgment was already saved in his life, before he gets to judgment. Moreover, the judgment in Mat 25 has nothing to do with me, for I am in the Church & will not go to that judgment, but the Bema of 1 Cor & 2 Cor.
The only way you could get to that judgment would be to go through the Tribulation & be judged for how you treat Christ's brethren.
There is so much scripture that addresses salvation directly, that you don't need to go and try to read into judgment passages what is not there.
No, salvation included eternal life, but it is not a synonym. Salvation is the help that the Savior gives to sinners. Now is the day of salvation. It begins in this life, and it begins with a new birth.
[/quote]synonyms for the word salvation: redemption, deliverance, rescue, recovery, escape[/QUOTE]
Your saying it proves nothing. Where is your Bible proof? There is no salvation in Mat 25 by any proper synonym. And there is plenty of evidence in the Bible on this topic that uses save, salvation, and Savior. In Mat 25's judgment where is new birth? Where is forgiveness? Where is a Savior saving sinners? No where.
Trying to force salvation into a judgment passage is a great error. And trying to make it mean something contrary to clear straight teaching on salvation is another error.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved.
So you think Mat 25 contradicts that & you deny Acts 16.
Thou shalt call HIs name Jesus, for He shall save HIs people from their sins.
But you can't believe that.
So you are in court & you call the judge "Your Honor" -- does that mean that you honor him?
Calling God "Lord" has nothing to do with being saved.
Every knee will bow & every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. That includes Adolf Hitler, every atheist, every agnostic, everyone who denies that the Lord Jesus is SAvior & regards Him as chance giver. It simply has nothing to do with believing on the Lord Jesus as SAvior.
And your saying this seems to imply that you don't know what it means to believe in the Son of God. Regarding Him as God doesn't save either. It is not what you think He is, but that you trust Him as SAvior.
And that fact has no bearing on the topic of Mat 25. Mat 25 is about judgment. No one gets saved there; the word salvation does not occur, save does not occur, Savior does not occur. Salvation is about the Lord Jesus saving sinners, helping them out, making them new. That is not in Mat 25.
May the Lord open your eyes to realize that He has clear teaching on salvation, and that salvation is not judgment. Anyone who goes to eternal life from judgment was already saved in his life, before he gets to judgment. Moreover, the judgment in Mat 25 has nothing to do with me, for I am in the Church & will not go to that judgment, but the Bema of 1 Cor & 2 Cor.
The only way you could get to that judgment would be to go through the Tribulation & be judged for how you treat Christ's brethren.
There is so much scripture that addresses salvation directly, that you don't need to go and try to read into judgment passages what is not there.
No, salvation included eternal life, but it is not a synonym. Salvation is the help that the Savior gives to sinners. Now is the day of salvation. It begins in this life, and it begins with a new birth.
[/quote]synonyms for the word salvation: redemption, deliverance, rescue, recovery, escape[/QUOTE]
Your saying it proves nothing. Where is your Bible proof? There is no salvation in Mat 25 by any proper synonym. And there is plenty of evidence in the Bible on this topic that uses save, salvation, and Savior. In Mat 25's judgment where is new birth? Where is forgiveness? Where is a Savior saving sinners? No where.
Trying to force salvation into a judgment passage is a great error. And trying to make it mean something contrary to clear straight teaching on salvation is another error.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved.
So you think Mat 25 contradicts that & you deny Acts 16.
Thou shalt call HIs name Jesus, for He shall save HIs people from their sins.
But you can't believe that.
adokimos means not approved. You could use "reject" if you like. "Cast away" is a poor translation, not found in my standard Greek lexicon. It is about rewards as the context shows. The crown, the victor's wreath, is a standard NT symbol for reward. It does not say "lost," you make that up. The passage says absolutely zilch about being saved & losing salvation, whatever that could mean (non-Biblical concept).
I don't think you do know the meaning of salvation.
Salvation is the Lord Jesus saving sinners, changing them, giving them eternal life as a free gift based on His atonement on the cross.
If you want to know about salvation, study verses that speak about that subject. Going to verses off topic & trying to read "lose salvation" in them, is a poor method of Bible study. The passage says nothing about Heaven.
Why don't you believe God's word on this?
By grace you have been saved [there is the magic word] through faith, and that not of yourselves, not of works lest anyone should boast.
I don't think you do know the meaning of salvation.
Salvation is the Lord Jesus saving sinners, changing them, giving them eternal life as a free gift based on His atonement on the cross.
If you want to know about salvation, study verses that speak about that subject. Going to verses off topic & trying to read "lose salvation" in them, is a poor method of Bible study. The passage says nothing about Heaven.
Why don't you believe God's word on this?
By grace you have been saved [there is the magic word] through faith, and that not of yourselves, not of works lest anyone should boast.
K
[SUP]1 Corinthians 12:3
[/SUP]Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost
You use human understanding/philosophy, but forget this scripture. No man calls Jesus Lord, accept by the Holy Spirit.
Not all that call Jesus Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
And why do not all that call Him Lord get into heaven, because they do not do Gods will for their life, or as Titus puts it;
Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate
synonyms for the word salvation: redemption, deliverance, rescue, recovery, escape[/QUOTE]
Your saying it proves nothing. Where is your Bible proof? There is no salvation in Mat 25 by any proper synonym. And there is plenty of evidence in the Bible on this topic that uses save, salvation, and Savior. In Mat 25's judgment where is new birth? Where is forgiveness? Where is a Savior saving sinners? No where.
Trying to force salvation into a judgment passage is a great error. And trying to make it mean something contrary to clear straight teaching on salvation is another error.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved.
So you think Mat 25 contradicts that & you deny Acts 16.
Thou shalt call HIs name Jesus, for He shall save HIs people from their sins.
But you can't believe that.[/QUOTE]
[/SUP]Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost
You use human understanding/philosophy, but forget this scripture. No man calls Jesus Lord, accept by the Holy Spirit.
Not all that call Jesus Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
And why do not all that call Him Lord get into heaven, because they do not do Gods will for their life, or as Titus puts it;
Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate
synonyms for the word salvation: redemption, deliverance, rescue, recovery, escape[/QUOTE]
Your saying it proves nothing. Where is your Bible proof? There is no salvation in Mat 25 by any proper synonym. And there is plenty of evidence in the Bible on this topic that uses save, salvation, and Savior. In Mat 25's judgment where is new birth? Where is forgiveness? Where is a Savior saving sinners? No where.
Trying to force salvation into a judgment passage is a great error. And trying to make it mean something contrary to clear straight teaching on salvation is another error.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved.
So you think Mat 25 contradicts that & you deny Acts 16.
Thou shalt call HIs name Jesus, for He shall save HIs people from their sins.
But you can't believe that.[/QUOTE]
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved.
I give them eternal life and they shall never perish.
Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins.
Neither outrageous nor non-right words.
God's Word is not outrageous, it is right, & needs no defending, for it is the word of God.
What cannot be defended is trying to make a judgment passage which says nothing about salvation mean "salvation by works."
I give them eternal life and they shall never perish.
Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins.
Neither outrageous nor non-right words.
God's Word is not outrageous, it is right, & needs no defending, for it is the word of God.
What cannot be defended is trying to make a judgment passage which says nothing about salvation mean "salvation by works."
Do you really claim that every time a man utters "Jesus is the Lord" that means the man is moved by the Holy Spirit to do that? So at the judgment, when a man about to be condemned says "Jesus is the Lord" he does that because the Holy Spirit is moving Him to say it?
"Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. 2 Ye know that when ye were Gentiles ye were led away unto those dumb idols, howsoever ye might be led. 3 Wherefore I make known unto you, that no man speaking in the Spirit of God saith, Jesus is anathema; and no man can say, Jesus is Lord, but in the Holy Spirit."
1 Cor 12 is speaking about the spiritual gift of prophesy, persons prophesying and what they say when prophesying, and has no bearing on any absurd claim that when a man merely addresses Christ as Lord that means the man is a believer in Christ in the sense that one believes in Christ as Savior.
Of course addressing Christ with the term Lord is not saving at all, and is irrelevant. It does not imply that the person trusts Christ as Savior.
So the Bible says,
Believe on the Lord Jesus, and you shall be saved.
What are you saying? That if they believe in Him they will not be saved? Are you seriously claiming that if a man addresses Christ as Lord at a judgment that implies he is a believer in the sense of "whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
This whole thing is absurd. Everyone will confess that Christ is Lord -- that hardly implies that they trusted Him as Savior.
"Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
Nothing in that passage about salvation. Salvation is Christ delivering His people from their sins. If you want to do the will of the Father, His will is that you obey the gospel and trust Christ as Savior. His will is that you believe that "By grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, not of works lest anyone should boast."
And haven't you denied the validity of the way of salvation before the law ended at the cross? You want water baptism to save, but we don't find OT saints getting baptized. So then you want the way to be saved to change at the cross. Thus you cannot quote any passage from the gospels on salvation; since that is your older dispensation.
"Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. 2 Ye know that when ye were Gentiles ye were led away unto those dumb idols, howsoever ye might be led. 3 Wherefore I make known unto you, that no man speaking in the Spirit of God saith, Jesus is anathema; and no man can say, Jesus is Lord, but in the Holy Spirit."
1 Cor 12 is speaking about the spiritual gift of prophesy, persons prophesying and what they say when prophesying, and has no bearing on any absurd claim that when a man merely addresses Christ as Lord that means the man is a believer in Christ in the sense that one believes in Christ as Savior.
Of course addressing Christ with the term Lord is not saving at all, and is irrelevant. It does not imply that the person trusts Christ as Savior.
So the Bible says,
Believe on the Lord Jesus, and you shall be saved.
What are you saying? That if they believe in Him they will not be saved? Are you seriously claiming that if a man addresses Christ as Lord at a judgment that implies he is a believer in the sense of "whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
This whole thing is absurd. Everyone will confess that Christ is Lord -- that hardly implies that they trusted Him as Savior.
"Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
Nothing in that passage about salvation. Salvation is Christ delivering His people from their sins. If you want to do the will of the Father, His will is that you obey the gospel and trust Christ as Savior. His will is that you believe that "By grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, not of works lest anyone should boast."
And haven't you denied the validity of the way of salvation before the law ended at the cross? You want water baptism to save, but we don't find OT saints getting baptized. So then you want the way to be saved to change at the cross. Thus you cannot quote any passage from the gospels on salvation; since that is your older dispensation.
K
What I post is about salvation. They are the things our Lord Jesus Christ said we must do to see the kingdom of heaven.
What Jesus taught was not OT teachings, He was teaching how we are to be under the new covenant, and the apostles collaborate what He taught.
What He taught did not apply only before the cross, He taught it to the apostles and told the apostles to go out and teach it to the rest of us. His teachings did not die with Him at the cross.
What Jesus taught was not OT teachings, He was teaching how we are to be under the new covenant, and the apostles collaborate what He taught.
What He taught did not apply only before the cross, He taught it to the apostles and told the apostles to go out and teach it to the rest of us. His teachings did not die with Him at the cross.
Give Heed to God's Word on Salvation
Cease the folly of focusing on verses off topic, verses that say nothing about the Savior saving sinners, trying to read into off-topic verses what they are not about. Judgment is not salvation.
Ephesians 2:8-10 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one
1 Tim 1:15-17
Faithful is the saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief: howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me as chief might Jesus Christ show forth all his longsuffering, for an ensample of them that should thereafter believe on him unto eternal life.
Eph 1:10ff
to sum up all things in Christ, the things in the heavens, and the things upon the earth; in him, I say in whom also we were made a heritage, having been foreordained according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his will; 12 to the end that we should be unto the praise of his glory, we who had before hoped in Christ: 13 in whom ye also, having heard the word of the truth, the gospel of your salvation,— in whom, having also believed, ye were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 which is an earnest of our inheritance, unto the redemption of God’s own possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Luke 8:11-12
Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 12 And those by the way side are they that have heard; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word from their heart, that they may not believe and be saved.
Acts 16:31
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus, and thou shalt be saved, thou and thy house.
1 Cor 1:21
it was God’s good pleasure through the foolishness of the preaching to save them that believe.
Gal 2:15-16
We being Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16 yet knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, even we believed on Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the law: because by the works of the law shall no flesh shall be justified.
John 5:24
2Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believes him that sent me, hath eternal life, and cometh not into judgment, but hath passed out of death into life.
Acts 15:8
And God, who knoweth the heart, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Spirit, even as he did unto us; and he made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.
Acts 26:18b
that they may receive remission of sins and an inheritance among them that are sanctified by faith in me.
Rom 1:16-17
For I am not ashamed of the gospel: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believes; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is revealed a righteousness of God from faith unto faith: as it is written, But the righteous shall live by faith.
Rom 3:21-30
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Rom 4:1ff
:1 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather, hath found according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not toward God. 3 For what saith the scripture? And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh, the reward is not reckoned as of grace, but as of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believes on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is reckoned for righteousness. 6 Even as David also pronounceth blessing upon the man, unto whom God reckoneth righteousness apart from works, 7 saying,
Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven,
And whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not reckon sin.
9 Is this blessing then pronounced upon the circumcision, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say, To Abraham his faith was reckoned for righteousness. 10 How then was it reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision: 11 and he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while he was in uncircumcision: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be in uncircumcision, that righteousness might be reckoned unto them; 12 and the father of circumcision to them who not only are of the circumcision, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham which he had in uncircumcision. 13 For not through the law was the promise to Abraham or to his seed that he should be heir of the world, but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if they that are of the law are heirs, faith is made void, and the promise is made of none effect: 15 for the law worketh wrath; but where there is no law, neither is there transgression. 16 For this cause it is of faith, that it may be according to grace; to the end that the promise may be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all
20 yet, looking unto the promise of God, he wavered not through unbelief, but waxed strong through faith, giving glory to God, 21 and being fully assured that what he had promised, he was able also to perform. 22 Wherefore also it was reckoned unto him for righteousness.
Rom 5:1-2
Being therefore justified by faith, let us have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ; through whom also we have had our access by faith into this grace wherein we stand; and let us boast in hope of the glory of God.
Gal 2:15-16
We being Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16 yet knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, even we believed on Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the law: because by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Gal 3:
This only would I learn from you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now perfected in the flesh? 4 Did ye suffer so many things in vain? if it be indeed in vain. 5 He therefore that supplieth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned unto him for righteousness. 7 Know therefore that they that are of faith, the same are sons of Abraham.
Gal 3:22ff
Philip 3:8-9
Yea verily, and I count all things to be loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but refuse, that I may gain Christ, and be found in him, not having a righteousness of mine own, even that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith:
Heb 3:19ff
And we see that they were not able to enter in because of unbelief. Let us fear therefore, lest haply, a promise being left of entering into his rest, any one of you should seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed we have had good tidings preached unto us, even as also they: but the word of hearing did not profit them, because it was not united by faith with them that heard. For we who have believed do enter into that rest;
Heb 10:39
But we are not of them that shrink back unto perdition; but of them that have faith unto the saving of the soul.
1 Pet 1:3ff
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy begat us again unto a living hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 unto an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who by the power of God are guarded through faith unto a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. 6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, ye have been put to grief in manifold trials, 7 that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold that perisheth though it is proved by fire, may be found unto praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ: 8 whom not having seen ye love; on whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice greatly with joy unspeakable and full of glory: 9 receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
Cease the folly of focusing on verses off topic, verses that say nothing about the Savior saving sinners, trying to read into off-topic verses what they are not about. Judgment is not salvation.
Ephesians 2:8-10 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one
1 Tim 1:15-17
Faithful is the saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief: howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me as chief might Jesus Christ show forth all his longsuffering, for an ensample of them that should thereafter believe on him unto eternal life.
Eph 1:10ff
to sum up all things in Christ, the things in the heavens, and the things upon the earth; in him, I say in whom also we were made a heritage, having been foreordained according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his will; 12 to the end that we should be unto the praise of his glory, we who had before hoped in Christ: 13 in whom ye also, having heard the word of the truth, the gospel of your salvation,— in whom, having also believed, ye were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 which is an earnest of our inheritance, unto the redemption of God’s own possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Luke 8:11-12
Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. 12 And those by the way side are they that have heard; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word from their heart, that they may not believe and be saved.
Acts 16:31
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus, and thou shalt be saved, thou and thy house.
1 Cor 1:21
it was God’s good pleasure through the foolishness of the preaching to save them that believe.
Gal 2:15-16
We being Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16 yet knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, even we believed on Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the law: because by the works of the law shall no flesh shall be justified.
John 5:24
2Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believes him that sent me, hath eternal life, and cometh not into judgment, but hath passed out of death into life.
Acts 15:8
And God, who knoweth the heart, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Spirit, even as he did unto us; and he made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith.
Acts 26:18b
that they may receive remission of sins and an inheritance among them that are sanctified by faith in me.
Rom 1:16-17
For I am not ashamed of the gospel: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believes; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is revealed a righteousness of God from faith unto faith: as it is written, But the righteous shall live by faith.
Rom 3:21-30
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Rom 4:1ff
:1 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather, hath found according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not toward God. 3 For what saith the scripture? And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh, the reward is not reckoned as of grace, but as of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believes on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is reckoned for righteousness. 6 Even as David also pronounceth blessing upon the man, unto whom God reckoneth righteousness apart from works, 7 saying,
Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven,
And whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not reckon sin.
9 Is this blessing then pronounced upon the circumcision, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say, To Abraham his faith was reckoned for righteousness. 10 How then was it reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision: 11 and he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while he was in uncircumcision: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be in uncircumcision, that righteousness might be reckoned unto them; 12 and the father of circumcision to them who not only are of the circumcision, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham which he had in uncircumcision. 13 For not through the law was the promise to Abraham or to his seed that he should be heir of the world, but through the righteousness of faith. 14 For if they that are of the law are heirs, faith is made void, and the promise is made of none effect: 15 for the law worketh wrath; but where there is no law, neither is there transgression. 16 For this cause it is of faith, that it may be according to grace; to the end that the promise may be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all
20 yet, looking unto the promise of God, he wavered not through unbelief, but waxed strong through faith, giving glory to God, 21 and being fully assured that what he had promised, he was able also to perform. 22 Wherefore also it was reckoned unto him for righteousness.
Rom 5:1-2
Being therefore justified by faith, let us have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ; through whom also we have had our access by faith into this grace wherein we stand; and let us boast in hope of the glory of God.
Gal 2:15-16
We being Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16 yet knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, even we believed on Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the law: because by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Gal 3:
This only would I learn from you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now perfected in the flesh? 4 Did ye suffer so many things in vain? if it be indeed in vain. 5 He therefore that supplieth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned unto him for righteousness. 7 Know therefore that they that are of faith, the same are sons of Abraham.
Gal 3:22ff
Philip 3:8-9
Yea verily, and I count all things to be loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but refuse, that I may gain Christ, and be found in him, not having a righteousness of mine own, even that which is of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith:
Heb 3:19ff
And we see that they were not able to enter in because of unbelief. Let us fear therefore, lest haply, a promise being left of entering into his rest, any one of you should seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed we have had good tidings preached unto us, even as also they: but the word of hearing did not profit them, because it was not united by faith with them that heard. For we who have believed do enter into that rest;
Heb 10:39
But we are not of them that shrink back unto perdition; but of them that have faith unto the saving of the soul.
1 Pet 1:3ff
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy begat us again unto a living hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 unto an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who by the power of God are guarded through faith unto a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. 6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, ye have been put to grief in manifold trials, 7 that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold that perisheth though it is proved by fire, may be found unto praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ: 8 whom not having seen ye love; on whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice greatly with joy unspeakable and full of glory: 9 receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
K
Sorry but this is wrong;
Hebrews 10:26-31
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
[SUP] [/SUP]But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
If you continue in willful sin you make your self an adversary of God, and will face the fiery indignation of pit of hell.
Re: Give Heed to God's Word on Salvation
I agree with everything you have said.
I only hold that, according to Hebrews, if a person truly does reject the faith, then they either were never saved to begin with, or they have eternally lost their faith.
Either way, such a person cannot recruxify Christ. Unbelief is unforgivable, which is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
Sin does not bring a person to reject the faith. Unbelief brings a person to reject the faith.
I agree with everything you have said.
I only hold that, according to Hebrews, if a person truly does reject the faith, then they either were never saved to begin with, or they have eternally lost their faith.
Either way, such a person cannot recruxify Christ. Unbelief is unforgivable, which is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
Sin does not bring a person to reject the faith. Unbelief brings a person to reject the faith.