EVIL TREE

[ELECT]

A dog is a symbol of an unclean man. A Gentile or sinner.

[h=1]Proverbs 30:29-31King James Version (KJV)[/h]29 There be three things which go well, yea, four are comely in going:
30 A lion which is strongest among beasts, and turneth not away for any;
31 A greyhound; an he goat also; and a king, against whom there is no rising up.

 

[ELECT]

This is what the bible describes as sons of god taking daughters of men. The baby grew to know that particular knowledge of man and accepted it.

Thy wisdom ceases to amaze me

 

[ELECT]

This is what the bible describes as sons of god taking daughters of men. The baby grew to know that particular knowledge of man and accepted it.

yet there were and will be babies that are destroyed without growing up to even know that knowledge yet if the knew God then why did God destroy them

 

[ELECT]

I believe it was lost in Noah's flood.

These rivers still exist it source is from eden thus why I think God left some of the ancient names of cities river landmass etc

What do you think ?

[h=1]Genesis 2:10-14King James Version (KJV)[/h]10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

 

[Flamingspirit]

yet there were and will be babies that are destroyed without growing up to even know that knowledge yet if the knew God then why did God destroy them

God kills with the purpose of making anew, but this is an internal battle. These babies are destroyed by the environment we bring them into. No one should go hungry but when morality has a price tag, nothing will change.

 

[ELECT]

God kills with the purpose of making anew, but this is an internal battle. These babies are destroyed by the environment we bring them into. No one should go hungry but when morality has a price tag, nothing will change.

You were once a baby right or were you born an adult ?
Were you destroyed by the enviroment ?

 

[Flamingspirit]

You were once a baby right or were you born an adult ?
Were you destroyed by the enviroment ?

No God blessed me to see it for what it is. If we want true evil to go away, we must change it and we do that by changing how we were taught to think or believe. Today we believe money and bills are as real as me and you.

 

[ELECT]

No God blessed me to see it for what it is. If we want true evil to go away, we must change it and we do that by changing how we were taught to think or believe. Today we believe money and bills are as real as me and you.

true evil to go away worldwide you mean ?

 

[ELECT]

And as for your little ones, who you said would become a prey, and your children, who today have no knowledge of good or evil, they shall go in there. And to them I will give it, and they shall possess it.” (Deuteronomy 1:39)

 

[RedTent]

Yes but the question is "what is darkness"?

I was so amazed when I found in my studies that darkness is, in Hebrew, choshek. It is what the world was when God added light of His goodness, as in the first day of creation. It is the absence of anything of God in it, chaos and evil.

 

[ELECT]

I was so amazed when I found in my studies that darkness is, in Hebrew, choshek. It is what the world was when God added light of His goodness, as in the first day of creation. It is the absence of anything of God in it, chaos and evil.

This is incorrect before creation there was no darkness because darkness is something and it was created by God

God is light therefore one can conclude that light existed with God all the time

Also the ligt in Genesis is for the earth not the third heaven

 

[dcontroversal]

The tree of knowledge of good and evil is the only one that came with a direct command which also had punishment tied to the direct command....As long as the tree was not eaten from then it would portray good as well as obedience, but take and eat from the tree would be disobedience and open the eyes of the ones eating to disobedience which in essence gives the knowledge of evil and or being evil.....And for the record....NO EVIDENCE that it was an APPLE....HAH!

 

[Flamingspirit]

This is incorrect before creation there was no darkness because darkness is something and it was created by God

God is light therefore one can conclude that light existed with God all the time

Also the ligt in Genesis is for the earth not the third heaven

The absence of light is by default, darkness. All of God.

 

[Word_Swordsman]

Genesis 3:22-24 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
[SUP]23 [/SUP] Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

The Cherubims were assigned one job, to keep anyone from eating of the tree of life, which was not off limits to Adam and Eve before sinning. They sealed off the Garden. Time is nothing to such beings, doubtless willing to keep doing that until the Flood would have erased the Garden from earth. God has plenty of those trees in Heaven, though. Revelation 2:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

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Revelation 22:2 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

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Revelation 22:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.


Knowing the creation plan was for all trees to reproduce themselves it should be easy to assume God wanted those to spread. But lest Adam and Eve eat of it while in that state of sin, the tree had to be withdrawn from human use. As for the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the effect of the fruit was released upon mankind. There is no mention of withholding it from further eating. It might as well have been allowed to spread across earth, maybe surviving the Flood.

If there was another option to vote on, I would have chosen "Still available".

 

[ELECT]

The absence of light is by default, darkness. All of God.

Job 38:19-20King James Version (KJV)

19 Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof,
20 That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof?

 

[Bloodwashed1978]

The trees in the garden were spiritual trees.

Tree of life= Jesus.

Tree of knowledge of good and evil = your own carnal thoughts.

Genesis 3:13
And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

2 Corinthians 11:3
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

When they ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil they ate there own thoughts.

Romans 8:6
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

 

[ELECT]

The trees in the garden were spiritual trees.

Tree of life= Jesus.

Tree of knowledge of good and evil = your own carnal thoughts.

Genesis 3:13
And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

2 Corinthians 11:3
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

When they ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil they ate there own thoughts.

Romans 8:6
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Why would Jesus let us eat out of the tree of life in the new ?

 

[ELECT]

Genesis 3:22-24 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
[SUP]23 [/SUP] Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

The Cherubims were assigned one job, to keep anyone from eating of the tree of life, which was not off limits to Adam and Eve before sinning. They sealed off the Garden. Time is nothing to such beings, doubtless willing to keep doing that until the Flood would have erased the Garden from earth. God has plenty of those trees in Heaven, though. Revelation 2:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

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Revelation 22:2 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

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Revelation 22:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.


Knowing the creation plan was for all trees to reproduce themselves it should be easy to assume God wanted those to spread. But lest Adam and Eve eat of it while in that state of sin, the tree had to be withdrawn from human use. As for the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the effect of the fruit was released upon mankind. There is no mention of withholding it from further eating. It might as well have been allowed to spread across earth, maybe surviving the Flood.

If there was another option to vote on, I would have chosen "Still available".

the tree of life was not availble to Adam and Eve before sin if it were they would have lived forever in a sinful state

 

[Word_Swordsman]

the tree of life was not availble to Adam and Eve before sin if it were they would have lived forever in a sinful state

Are you saying God created the Tree of Life after Adam and Eve sinned, then closed it off lest they eat of it? I don't read it that way at all. Rather, this is what God said before the sin:
Genesis 2:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Both were good for food and were ornamental plants, but the latter prohibited of them.

Then, after sinning, God removed them from the tree of life by closing the Garden. Adam inherited eternal death instead of keeping access to eternal life. He began with open access to the good thing, called good for food even, ended with the evil.

 

[ELECT]

Are you saying God created the Tree of Life after Adam and Eve sinned, then closed it off lest they eat of it? I don't read it that way at all. Rather, this is what God said before the sin:
Genesis 2:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Both were good for food and were ornamental plants, but the latter prohibited of them.

Then, after sinning, God removed them from the tree of life by closing the Garden. Adam inherited eternal death instead of keeping access to eternal life. He began with open access to the good thing, called good for food even, ended with the evil.

i am saying both tress were created before they sin but they were not to eat from the both trees