I am curious, what is it that we eat daily which was a cursed meal for Adam and Eve?It is not a literal tree and we eat of it daily.
I am curious, what is it that we eat daily which was a cursed meal for Adam and Eve?It is not a literal tree and we eat of it daily.
I have never truly grasped, I don't think, what the passage means by "... the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil...." Precisely, what was the knowledge that Adam and Eve gained that God did not want them to possess. Can you tell me how humanity would be different today if this forbidden knowledge had not be acquired.I agree. Obviously they had not eaten of the tree of life yet. God separated them from it before they ate, after sinning. Genesis 3:22-23 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil....
I believe is refering to our choices everyday, meaning we choose to either obey God(Not eat the fruit) or give into sin(eating the fruit) in every day situations like lying and such
So what is evil, the homosexual or how he is treated because of it?
Do these rivers still exist today ?
If they do what and where is there source of water ?
Genesis 2:10-14King James Version (KJV)
10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
I believe it was lost in Noah's flood.
i am saying both tress were created before they sin but they were not to eat from the both trees
Why were these two trees not put on the other side of the world in an area so remote we still wouldn't have found them? The other option was to put them on an uninhabited world in another star system; but no, they were put in the middle of the garden in plain sight. Does this not seem odd to you? Why set Adam and Eve up for failure that way?
What box are you now thinking outside of?Good thought Blain - you made me think outside the box.
What box are you now thinking outside of?
"... the man is become as one of us..." (God).
"... meaning we choose to either obey God(Not eat the fruit) or give into sin(eating the fruit) in every day situations like lying and such" (Blain).
So, if Blain is right then God also makes daily choices about obeying or sinning? To whom must God be obedient? No, sorry, that doesn't sit well with me. I don't think Blain has it right. This is not just about making choices. God's response to Adam after he consumed the forbidden fruit was to say, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?" In other words Adam has done something that has changed the way he perceives the world. You might say a paradigm shift has taken place in the minds of both Adam and Eve. They are changed beings. They now perceive the world as God himself does.
"See, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever" – therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden... (NOAB).
God ejected Adam and Eve from paradise not for disobeying, but out of concern that they might disobey again, eat from the other tree, and gain immortality. Then they would both truly be like gods, like “one of us”. God took the action he did to prevent humanity from becoming a race of immortal beings.
What box are you now thinking outside of?
"... the man is become as one of us..." (God).
"... meaning we choose to either obey God(Not eat the fruit) or give into sin(eating the fruit) in every day situations like lying and such" (Blain).
So, if Blain is right then God also makes daily choices about obeying or sinning? To whom must God be obedient? No, sorry, that doesn't sit well with me. I don't think Blain has it right. This is not just about making choices. God's response to Adam after he consumed the forbidden fruit was to say, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?" In other words Adam has done something that has changed the way he perceives the world. You might say a paradigm shift has taken place in the minds of both Adam and Eve. They are changed beings. They now perceive the world as God himself does.
"See, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever" – therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden... (NOAB).
God ejected Adam and Eve from paradise not for disobeying, but out of concern that they might disobey again, eat from the other tree, and gain immortality. Then they would both truly be like gods, like “one of us”. God took the action he did to prevent humanity from becoming a race of immortal beings.
There are two containers in my kitchen. One is called fridge and the other is garbage can. Told my guests to get food from the fridge.There were two trees. If they were both destroyed, or hidden away, then why put them front and centre in the garden in the first place?
Didn't Hebrews 11:3 say: "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible"?From an earlier time if you like, but there is no mention of the water's creation. Genesis does not explain where the water came from, it is simply there and God is described as hovering over it.
My son’s New Oxford Annotated Bible explains that “the text does not describe creation out of nothing (contrast 2 Macc 7.28). Instead, the story emphasizes how God creates order from a watery chaos.” (NOAB, p. 11)
When were the planets created? On day four when the stars and the greater and lesser light were formed.
“In a critical response to non-Israelite cultures who worshiped these heavenly bodies, the bodies are not named and are identified as mere timekeepers.” (NOAB, p. 12)
There are two containers in my kitchen. One is called fridge and the other is garbage can. Told my guests to get food from the fridge.
Super Humidity. Ever used a dehumidifier in even lower levels of humidity, let alone the atmospheric water generators in use in remote poor areas in the world?Where did the water come from if God did not create it ?
When were the other planets created ?
Super Humidity. Ever used a dehumidifier in even lower levels of humidity, let alone the atmospheric water generators in use in remote poor areas in the world?
Why do people always want a scientific explanation before accepting it? This is the atheist conditioning where something has to fit in with a scientific explanation, but seriously if God can create or do anything, then isn't that an expectable answer?
So where did the water come from? It is possible God just created the extra water to cover the earth, it did not mean it had to exist to start with!
But if we look at the age and type of creatures before the flood, it is assumed that we had super greenhouse conditions created by a huge thick atmospheric layer of water and 100% humidity!
was water created on day one or outside time ?
You really are working hard to prove that Eden was just made up metaphors and never really existed, arn't you!
It rains today, its humid today, just as it was for all that time in Eden and pre-flood. Doesn't matter when water appeared in the 6 days to create everything, as I said it rains today and its humid today, just as it did in Eden!