The "Impossible" Gospel
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but, you see, that's exactly the Law we could not keep. 
who can, in their own 'strength and power', do that?
we needed Jesus to come and do that for us,
because we could never, ever do it for ourselves.
who can, in their own 'strength and power', do that?
we needed Jesus to come and do that for us,
because we could never, ever do it for ourselves.
Php_4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
All things....ie. Keep the commandments
Deu_4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
So if you add or diminish the commandments you cannot keep the commandments. Does that sound like good reasononing?
Deu_28:9 The LORD shall establish thee an holy people unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, and walk in His ways.
Mic 4:2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Isa 2:3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Jer 18:15 But My people have forgotten Me. They have burned incense to vain idols; and they have caused them to stumble in their ways, from the old paths, to walk in bypaths, not on the highway;
Jer 6:16 So says YAHWEH, Stand by the ways and see, and ask for the old paths, where the good way is, and walk in it; and you shall find rest for your souls.
But they said, We will not walk in it.
And The "Impossible" Gospel is the result.
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but, you see, that's exactly the Law we could not keep.
who can, in their own 'strength and power', do that?
we needed Jesus to come and do that for us,
because we could never, ever do it for ourselves.
who can, in their own 'strength and power', do that?
we needed Jesus to come and do that for us,
because we could never, ever do it for ourselves.
God's Law is perfect. it shows us what God is like, and how we must live to inherit eternal life.
but the message of the Bible is that we are not able to perfectly keep God's law.
we needed a Savior...a Rescuer to do for us...in our place...what we were unable to do.
we had to die, you see, and be born again.
Noticing your signature I must say The Torah was not for gentiles. It was for the Hebrews out of which came the tribes of Israel. Gentiles are not said to become Israelites by being grafted into the wild olive tree. Israelites were never THE tree, but were branches of it. Branches were cut off due to rebellion of Israel, gentiles grafted as other branches of one tree. Sp now I see where you are coming from.
Acts 15:14-20 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
[SUP]16 [/SUP] After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
[SUP]17 [/SUP] That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
[SUP]20 [/SUP] But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
It was decided in that major meeting of the apostles that the Gentiles would not be required to satisfy Moses, with some exceptions. Paul wrote extensively about why that is true.
Again, Jesus made it clear His gospel was not about Mosaic or Pharisaical rule or law keeping. Moses doesn't mix with the gospel, like oil not mixing with water. Matthew 9:14-17 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Then came to him the disciples of John, saying, Why do we and the Pharisees fast oft, but thy disciples fast not?
[SUP]15 [/SUP] And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.
2 Corinthians 3:13 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
[HR][/HR] Ephesians 2:15 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
I hope you revisit those chapters, studying them well in context.
Acts 15:14-20 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
[SUP]16 [/SUP] After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
[SUP]17 [/SUP] That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
[SUP]20 [/SUP] But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
It was decided in that major meeting of the apostles that the Gentiles would not be required to satisfy Moses, with some exceptions. Paul wrote extensively about why that is true.
Again, Jesus made it clear His gospel was not about Mosaic or Pharisaical rule or law keeping. Moses doesn't mix with the gospel, like oil not mixing with water. Matthew 9:14-17 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Then came to him the disciples of John, saying, Why do we and the Pharisees fast oft, but thy disciples fast not?
[SUP]15 [/SUP] And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.
2 Corinthians 3:13 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
[HR][/HR] Ephesians 2:15 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
I hope you revisit those chapters, studying them well in context.
well, sure, but we needed the Person and Work of Jesus to have our hearts changed.
God's Law is perfect. it shows us what God is like, and how we must live to inherit eternal life.
but the message of the Bible is that we are not able to perfectly keep God's law.
we needed a Savior...a Rescuer to do for us...in our place...what we were unable to do.
we had to die, you see, and be born again.
God's Law is perfect. it shows us what God is like, and how we must live to inherit eternal life.
but the message of the Bible is that we are not able to perfectly keep God's law.
we needed a Savior...a Rescuer to do for us...in our place...what we were unable to do.
we had to die, you see, and be born again.
Act 7:37 This is the same Moses who said to the sons of Israel, "YAHWEH your Elohim will raise up a Prophet to you" "From your brothers, One like me." You shall hear Him. (Deut. 18:15)
Act 7:38 This is the one who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the Messenger who spoke to him in Mount Sinai, and with our fathers, who received the living Words to give to us,
Act 7:39 and our forefathers did not desire to obey him, rather, they left him and in their hearts they returned to Egypt.
So what happen to those who had no desire to obey Him? God divorced the House of Israel. The only way to return to the House of God is through dying of both parties. Christ (God With Us/Immanuel) came and died and resurrected and then we have to also die to our old nature and be born again to be able to be Christ's Bride.
Again, I've shown this many times. Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
And who did He send His disciples to? Mat_10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
For me, the whole Bible is truth and relevant to us today, as either ingrafted Israelites or adopted into God's family of Israel which could only happen by the death, burial and resurrection of "God with us"/Y'shua (which means Yah's salvation.)
Doesn't sound like a divorce to me...
Luke 1:67-77 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,
Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;
As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:
That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;
To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;
The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;
To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
Luke 1:67-77 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,
Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;
As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:
That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;
To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;
The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
And thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;
To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
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well, sure, but we needed the Person and Work of Jesus to have our hearts changed.
God's Law is perfect. it shows us what God is like, and how we must live to inherit eternal life.
but the message of the Bible is that we are not able to perfectly keep God's law.
we needed a Savior...a Rescuer to do for us...in our place...what we were unable to do.
we had to die, you see, and be born again.
God's Law is perfect. it shows us what God is like, and how we must live to inherit eternal life.
but the message of the Bible is that we are not able to perfectly keep God's law.
we needed a Savior...a Rescuer to do for us...in our place...what we were unable to do.
we had to die, you see, and be born again.
7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.
8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
While Psalms presents an accurate snapshot of the Law of Moses, that doesn't mean whoever is exposed to it succeeds with God. Israel failed, the very oracles of God. They have been in exile across the world until lately, almost 2000 years wandering. They had that Law. But they failed to have it in their stony hearts. Meanwhile the world of gentiles found the Door to the perfection, in Christ, not the Law. Oh, yes, keeping all the Law had promise of great reward. Jesus alone did it and received that reward.
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note what Jesus says
[h=1]Luke 24:44King James Version (KJV)[/h]44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
[h=1]Luke 24:44King James Version (KJV)[/h]44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
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Including your previous post, Jesus did indeed complete, fulfill, all the law and the prophets concerning Him. Yes, it did trouble Him that the Jews refused to keep the Law commanded to them. That was all they had until He came to install His New Covenant, which was sealed with His own blood. His ministry was to the Jews first. But He shared it with the gentiles next, appointing apostles to carry the gospel worldwide. It is a dire conclusion that Jesus commanded followers to obey Moses while ignoring the clear teachings of His apostles.
When something is FULFILLED, it means finished, completed, satisfied. There was no more to do about the Law of Moses, as Jesus settled all that. He kept it all for His disciples. Paul said it was abolished, but done so for those under the blood of Christ, not of animals. That law still exists, is real, designed for lost people needing a window into their desperate, wicked souls. That is why Paul called it the law of sin and death, compared to the law of liberty and life in Christ. Jesus' covenant is far superior to that of Moses. It has no power over the righteous holding the righteousness of God in Christ. Having that, why desire to regain the law of sin and death? Leave that to the sinners refusing to repent, and people believing the works of that law will save them.
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Are you saying persons are not to be baptised anymore ?
[h=1]Matthew 3:14-17King James Version (KJV)[/h]14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
[h=1]Matthew 3:14-17King James Version (KJV)[/h]14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.