The "Impossible" Gospel
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It is either the seal of God or mark of the beast. The seal of God embraces the Father's Name as you will clearly see. Now notice Revelation chapter 14: verse 1 where it speaks of the 144,000 having the "Father's Name written in their foreheads." Those who are destroyed by these terrible judgments are those who have the mark of the beast in their foreheads (Chapter 14:9) while those delivered have the seal of God. (Chapter 9:4).
In Psalms 91 when speaking of deliverance, it says: "A thousand shall fall at thy side and ten thousand at thy right hand, but it shall not come nigh unto thee, for He will give His angels charge over thee,'' etc. verses 7 to 14. In verse 14 it says: "I will set him on high because lie hath known My Name." Here it is again, the seal of God in the forehead, which is the mind, the thinking part of the person. They know the Father's Name. They have His Name in their forehead
In Psalms 91 when speaking of deliverance, it says: "A thousand shall fall at thy side and ten thousand at thy right hand, but it shall not come nigh unto thee, for He will give His angels charge over thee,'' etc. verses 7 to 14. In verse 14 it says: "I will set him on high because lie hath known My Name." Here it is again, the seal of God in the forehead, which is the mind, the thinking part of the person. They know the Father's Name. They have His Name in their forehead
I didn't mention baptism, but will now.
Back up to an earlier event, John doing his calling while Jesus was on His way to the river. What was the purpose of John's baptism? John 1:29-34 (KJV)
[SUP]29 [/SUP] The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
[SUP]30 [/SUP] This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
[SUP]31 [/SUP] And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
[SUP]33 [/SUP] And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]34 [/SUP] And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
That baptism still has the same purpose, making Jesus manifest to all who witness that. Paul, an apostle didn't hold water baptism as a necessity of the gospel he preached. He manifested Jesus through the word of God and miracles. Some 1 years after Jesus arose from the dead Paul met some disciples of John Baptist. The men were carrying on after John, but needed to move up. Acts 19:1-4 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Now I ask what that had to do with Moses and a requirement to keep those commandments instead of what Paul referred to? Again, I think you and a few others are mixing two covenants never meant to be mixed.
Back up to an earlier event, John doing his calling while Jesus was on His way to the river. What was the purpose of John's baptism? John 1:29-34 (KJV)
[SUP]29 [/SUP] The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
[SUP]30 [/SUP] This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
[SUP]31 [/SUP] And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
[SUP]33 [/SUP] And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]34 [/SUP] And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
That baptism still has the same purpose, making Jesus manifest to all who witness that. Paul, an apostle didn't hold water baptism as a necessity of the gospel he preached. He manifested Jesus through the word of God and miracles. Some 1 years after Jesus arose from the dead Paul met some disciples of John Baptist. The men were carrying on after John, but needed to move up. Acts 19:1-4 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Now I ask what that had to do with Moses and a requirement to keep those commandments instead of what Paul referred to? Again, I think you and a few others are mixing two covenants never meant to be mixed.
Mystery for ya. adding a little context to that we get 1 Corinthians 7:18-19 (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
We know the Law of Moses commanded circumcision. Therefore, you are looking at the wrong commandments, the ones aimed at Israel under their Mosaic Covenant. We have better commandments. You can't mix the two sets of commandments. The first set is abolished in Christ. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two entirely different covenants. Jesus contrasted them often, demonstrating the differences. So did the apostles.
But of course you are free to pick a set and try following them. If the Law, you will fail. If the commandments of Christ, and Christ is in you, and you in Christ, you will be awarded His righteousness as though you kept all commandments of God through Moses and by Jesus. Believers get all that accounted, reckoned to us, by the works of Jesus, through faith in Him, under the plan of Grace of God. That's far better than seeking mercy through the death of animals, isn't it? I really believe it is.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
We know the Law of Moses commanded circumcision. Therefore, you are looking at the wrong commandments, the ones aimed at Israel under their Mosaic Covenant. We have better commandments. You can't mix the two sets of commandments. The first set is abolished in Christ. There are a lot of similarities, but they are two entirely different covenants. Jesus contrasted them often, demonstrating the differences. So did the apostles.
But of course you are free to pick a set and try following them. If the Law, you will fail. If the commandments of Christ, and Christ is in you, and you in Christ, you will be awarded His righteousness as though you kept all commandments of God through Moses and by Jesus. Believers get all that accounted, reckoned to us, by the works of Jesus, through faith in Him, under the plan of Grace of God. That's far better than seeking mercy through the death of animals, isn't it? I really believe it is.
original question to Elin
Since this was never answered I will ask again so all will know who is on what side of the fence that causes separation. I say that the law of Jesus is the same as the Law of His own Father. here is the link to the post
Since this was never answered I will ask again so all will know who is on what side of the fence that causes separation. I say that the law of Jesus is the same as the Law of His own Father. here is the link to the post
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I don't quite understand your post, and I do know that there is a covenant that is new in Christ. I was asking if the law of God is different than the law of Christ. Jesus fulfilled the sacrificial law but the spiritual concepts are the same as far as I am concerned.
Example. Jesus said he would not drink of the fruit of the vine until He drank it new in His Father's kingdom. (Matthew 26:29) That is comparable to the vow of a Nazarite.(Numbers 6:3 and 20) Another example of the sacrificial law would be a daily offering of 2 lambs (one in the morning and one in the evening) the same time that the high priest would trim the wicks on the Menorah and offer incense on the altar. (Exodus 29:38-39, and Exodus 30:7-8) This was done during the same hours that Jesus was on the cross from 9 in the morning until 3 in the afternoon.
Now there are numerous laws given for us to reciprocate in love for one another and love toward God, defined in the spiritual principles of the law for us to follow, even though our culture today (in relation) is completely different from that in scripture. I believe all these laws of God are the same as the law of Christ. referring to this post
Example. Jesus said he would not drink of the fruit of the vine until He drank it new in His Father's kingdom. (Matthew 26:29) That is comparable to the vow of a Nazarite.(Numbers 6:3 and 20) Another example of the sacrificial law would be a daily offering of 2 lambs (one in the morning and one in the evening) the same time that the high priest would trim the wicks on the Menorah and offer incense on the altar. (Exodus 29:38-39, and Exodus 30:7-8) This was done during the same hours that Jesus was on the cross from 9 in the morning until 3 in the afternoon.
Now there are numerous laws given for us to reciprocate in love for one another and love toward God, defined in the spiritual principles of the law for us to follow, even though our culture today (in relation) is completely different from that in scripture. I believe all these laws of God are the same as the law of Christ. referring to this post
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That's what I believe also. "We love him, because he first loved us." (1 John 4:19)
I was going to start a thread on keeping the possession that God has given in parallel to the land that God gave to Israel for a possession. That is also in relation to the salvation we have been given, and that we are instructed to possess in relation.
Deuteronomy 8:1 All the commandments which I command thee this day shall ye observe to do, that ye may live, and multiply, and go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers.
I was going to start a thread on keeping the possession that God has given in parallel to the land that God gave to Israel for a possession. That is also in relation to the salvation we have been given, and that we are instructed to possess in relation.
Deuteronomy 8:1 All the commandments which I command thee this day shall ye observe to do, that ye may live, and multiply, and go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers.
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raptured 
Pre-tribulation rapture is a man made theory.
Matthew 24:29-31
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other .
Matthew 24:29-31
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other .
For one who states "I do know that there is a covenant that is new in Christ." (post 588) doesn't bode well with your view of the rapture.
Let me again remind you...
Hebrews 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Let me again remind you...
Hebrews 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.