Interesting, isn't it, how the Campbellite heretics are much in agreement with the papist heretics on salvation, wanting to add on "baptism" to whosoever believes. But in reality the Campbellites define baptize as immerse in water, which the papists don't do. Thus though on the surface it may look like they agree, logically the Campbellites would damn the papists & Presbyterians for sprinkling.
Both may want to argue that sprinking or immersing (respectively) saves from the Ananias story in Acts, both not noting that water is not mentioned, & the baptism there may be Spirit baptism.
" But the Lord said unto him [Ananias], Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles and kings, and the children of Israel: 16 for I will show him how many things he must suffer for my name’s sake. 17 And Ananias departed, and entered into the house; and laying his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, who appeared unto thee in the way which thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mayest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Spirit. "
But Saul/Paul was probably already saved. Note that he was already chosen. How does that square with you free-willers? And he already must suffer for Christ's name sake. So you think he wasn't already saved at that point?
These instructions are not for Paul's salvation, but for his receiving sight & being filled with the Spirit (a matter distinct from salvation). The Ephesians are commanded to be filled with the Spirit, though already saved.
2nd passage:
2 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, well reported of by all the Jews that dwelt there, 13 came unto me, and standing by me said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And in that very hour I looked up on him. 14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath appointed thee to know his will, and to see the Righteous One, and to hear a voice from his mouth. 15 For thou shalt be a witness for him unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard. 16 And now why tarriest thou? Having arisen, be baptized. And wash away thy sins (by) having called on his name.
ἀναστὰς βάπτισαι.
καὶ ἀπόλουσαι τὰς ἁμαρτίας σου ἐπικαλεσάμενος τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ.
The sins are washed away only by the calling on Christ's name in faith, as in Romans 10:13: "For whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."
And how can they call on him in whom they have not believed?
Apparently Ananias is not prophesying here, thus it is doubtful that Ananias is uttering God's word, rather he is giving directions on how to be saved. I think Paul was already saved, but evidently Ananias did not know that. But whatever Ananias thought, the Aorist participle "having called on his name" is regularly used to indicate action prior to the main verb "wash away." If you think Ananias is prophesying (text doesn't say it), then you would postulate that Paul was not yet saved, and he was offered salvation for a call of faith as in Rom 10:13-14.
Both may want to argue that sprinking or immersing (respectively) saves from the Ananias story in Acts, both not noting that water is not mentioned, & the baptism there may be Spirit baptism.
" But the Lord said unto him [Ananias], Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles and kings, and the children of Israel: 16 for I will show him how many things he must suffer for my name’s sake. 17 And Ananias departed, and entered into the house; and laying his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, who appeared unto thee in the way which thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mayest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Spirit. "
But Saul/Paul was probably already saved. Note that he was already chosen. How does that square with you free-willers? And he already must suffer for Christ's name sake. So you think he wasn't already saved at that point?
These instructions are not for Paul's salvation, but for his receiving sight & being filled with the Spirit (a matter distinct from salvation). The Ephesians are commanded to be filled with the Spirit, though already saved.
2nd passage:
2 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, well reported of by all the Jews that dwelt there, 13 came unto me, and standing by me said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And in that very hour I looked up on him. 14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath appointed thee to know his will, and to see the Righteous One, and to hear a voice from his mouth. 15 For thou shalt be a witness for him unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard. 16 And now why tarriest thou? Having arisen, be baptized. And wash away thy sins (by) having called on his name.
ἀναστὰς βάπτισαι.
καὶ ἀπόλουσαι τὰς ἁμαρτίας σου ἐπικαλεσάμενος τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ.
The sins are washed away only by the calling on Christ's name in faith, as in Romans 10:13: "For whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."
And how can they call on him in whom they have not believed?
Apparently Ananias is not prophesying here, thus it is doubtful that Ananias is uttering God's word, rather he is giving directions on how to be saved. I think Paul was already saved, but evidently Ananias did not know that. But whatever Ananias thought, the Aorist participle "having called on his name" is regularly used to indicate action prior to the main verb "wash away." If you think Ananias is prophesying (text doesn't say it), then you would postulate that Paul was not yet saved, and he was offered salvation for a call of faith as in Rom 10:13-14.
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